At two recent meetings, several topics around event logging came up. Specifically, how/where our different systems log (or should log) their events.
The topics I'm aware of are:
1. Should WDQS use our standard event logging system? I think the answer was yes. Do we have or need a phab ticket to represent that?
2. Should Our new maps work use our standard event logging system?
3. Should Cirrus/Elastic use our standard event logging system?
4. Should Cirrus/Elastic log to Kibana? What are the privacy implications there?
It's probably best to reply to only one topic at a time, so this thread gets forked. Ideally, please change the subject line to reflect the specific topic you are replying to.
Discuss!
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It should all be here, in the guide: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EventLogging/Guide
I've filed a task for this, and put it in the backlog: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101013
Dan
On 1 June 2015 at 19:25, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
- Should WDQS use our standard event logging system? I think the answer
was yes. Do we have or need a phab ticket to represent that?
I'd be glad to look into this, is there any docs on how this event logging system works?
-- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org
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I approve of looking deeper into this - its worth bringing out of the backlog and taking now because it could be a blocker for us to properly get all the data that we're supposed to get.
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
It should all be here, in the guide: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EventLogging/Guide
I've filed a task for this, and put it in the backlog: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101013
Dan
On 1 June 2015 at 19:25, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
- Should WDQS use our standard event logging system? I think the answer
was yes. Do we have or need a phab ticket to represent that?
I'd be glad to look into this, is there any docs on how this event logging system works?
-- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-search mailing list Wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-search
-- Dan Garry Product Manager, Search and Discovery Wikimedia Foundation
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Event logging or logging events? EL is not for general-purpose logging; we have kafka for that.
On 1 June 2015 at 15:22, Nikolas Everett neverett@wikimedia.org wrote:
I approve of looking deeper into this - its worth bringing out of the backlog and taking now because it could be a blocker for us to properly get all the data that we're supposed to get.
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
It should all be here, in the guide: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EventLogging/Guide
I've filed a task for this, and put it in the backlog: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101013
Dan
On 1 June 2015 at 19:25, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
- Should WDQS use our standard event logging system? I think the
answer was yes. Do we have or need a phab ticket to represent that?
I'd be glad to look into this, is there any docs on how this event logging system works?
-- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-search mailing list Wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-search
-- Dan Garry Product Manager, Search and Discovery Wikimedia Foundation
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Event logging or logging events?
This is pretty deep, and might be worth spending some discussion time on.
Specifically, how/where our different systems log (or should log) their
events.
What questions are we trying to answer with all these logs? Which solution (EL vs. other logging) are we targeting to answer these questions? Why do we expect it to be the better mechanism? Are there actually multiple classes of problems that can be solved with a combination of implementations?
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Event logging or logging events? EL is not for general-purpose logging; we have kafka for that.
On 1 June 2015 at 15:22, Nikolas Everett neverett@wikimedia.org wrote:
I approve of looking deeper into this - its worth bringing out of the backlog and taking now because it could be a blocker for us to properly
get
all the data that we're supposed to get.
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
It should all be here, in the guide: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EventLogging/Guide
I've filed a task for this, and put it in the backlog: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101013
Dan
On 1 June 2015 at 19:25, Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi!
- Should WDQS use our standard event logging system? I think the
answer was yes. Do we have or need a phab ticket to represent that?
I'd be glad to look into this, is there any docs on how this event logging system works?
-- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-search mailing list Wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-search
-- Dan Garry Product Manager, Search and Discovery Wikimedia Foundation
Wikimedia-search mailing list Wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-search
Wikimedia-search mailing list Wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-search
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
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