Dear Ms., I thank you for your answer. As explained in https://doi.org/10.1016/J.JBI.2019.103292, Wikidata lacks support of images of medical items (Symptoms, Diseases, Medical signs, Medical techniques and tests...). The initiative of Dr. Yale Rosen in this context is a significant contribution to Wikidata. However, I should inform you that there are multiple types of medical images. Using P18 Image Wikidata Property without constraints will be imprecise. I propose to add a qualifier to new Wikidata statements in which you define the fabrication method (P2079). These methods are Radiology (Q77604), Computed Tomography (Q32566), Histology (Q7168) and Echography (Q16775363) among others. Other qualifiers about other characteristics of the image such as the used section and coloration should be included as well. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki (he/him) Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group Member, Wiki Project Med Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee ____________________ +21629499418
-------- Message d'origine -------- De : "Dr. Diptanshu Das" das.diptanshu@gmail.com Date : 2019/10/06 08:37 (GMT+01:00) À : Wiki Medicine discussion wikimedia-medicine@lists.wikimedia.org, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com Objet : Re: [Wiki-Medicine] 2000 pathology images by Dr. Yale Rosen to Wikimedia Commons
Dear Netha
That is great news. However, I think that CC-BY would be more appropriate a license for such kind of images? I would seek opinion from James in this regard.
Regards Diptanshu
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On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 14:43, Netha Hussain <nethahussain@gmail.commailto:nethahussain@gmail.com> wrote: **Apologies for cross-posting**
Dear all,
I am very happy to share the news of Dr. Yale Rosen's donation of images to Wikimedia Commons. He had shared over 2000 images related to pathology, many of which are rare images, during his long career as a pathologist. He used to run two Flickr streams, one for Atlas of Medical Foreign Bodieshttps://www.flickr.com/photos/foreignbodies and other for pulmonary pathologyhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/pulmonary_pathology/ images. I had first approached Dr. Rosen for donating a few images, but he kindly offered to donate his entire collection of approximately 2000 images plus the contents from his pathology websitehttp://granuloma.homestead.com/ for use on Wikimedia projects. He had shared several images under CC-BY-SA or lower in the past, and User: CFCFhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CFCF had uploaded them to Commons in 2014. This month, he moved his entire collection to CC-BY-SA, giving me the possibility to upload around 1000 images to Commons. All images from Dr. Rosen's Flickr streams are now available on Wikimedia Commons herehttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_by_Yale_Rosen_MD.
Please feel free to engage in categorizing, adding structured data and uptaking these images to Wikimedia projects.Kindly write to me if you have any questions or comments.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
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Dear Diptanshu and Houcemeddine,
Given a choice, I would want the images be under CC0, but in this case it was Dr. Rosen's choice to keep it under CC-BY-SA. I sent him details regarding compatible licenses for Wikimedia, and he chose to go with CC-BY-SA. I respected his choice and thanked him for the license change. I could have been more proactive and encouraged the use of CC-BY, but I didn't see good chances of that discussion meeting with success.
I agree with Houcemeddine's suggestion of having a more refined way of using images on Wikidata. But, I am unable to find any examples where this approach has been used. Has this approach been discussed on Wikidata? I am all in support for separating out CT/ECG/histopathology/gross pathology images on Wikidata items, but I don't yet know if this has been the norm. Houcemeddine, can you help me with this? Please also help me to integrate these images to Wikidata if you are interested.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 12:03, Houcemeddine A. Turki < turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr> wrote:
Dear Ms., I thank you for your answer. As explained in https://doi.org/10.1016/J.JBI.2019.103292, Wikidata lacks support of images of medical items (Symptoms, Diseases, Medical signs, Medical techniques and tests...). The initiative of Dr. Yale Rosen in this context is a significant contribution to Wikidata. However, I should inform you that there are multiple types of medical images. Using P18 Image Wikidata Property without constraints will be imprecise. I propose to add a qualifier to new Wikidata statements in which you define the fabrication method (P2079). These methods are Radiology (Q77604), Computed Tomography (Q32566), Histology (Q7168) and Echography (Q16775363) among others. Other qualifiers about other characteristics of the image such as the used section and coloration should be included as well. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki (he/him) Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group Member, Wiki Project Med Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee ____________________ +21629499418
-------- Message d'origine -------- De : "Dr. Diptanshu Das" das.diptanshu@gmail.com Date : 2019/10/06 08:37 (GMT+01:00) À : Wiki Medicine discussion wikimedia-medicine@lists.wikimedia.org, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com Objet : Re: [Wiki-Medicine] 2000 pathology images by Dr. Yale Rosen to Wikimedia Commons
Dear Netha
That is great news. However, I think that CC-BY would be more appropriate a license for such kind of images? I would seek opinion from James in this regard.
Regards Diptanshu
Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 14:43, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.com wrote:
**Apologies for cross-posting**
Dear all,
I am very happy to share the news of Dr. Yale Rosen's donation of images to Wikimedia Commons. He had shared over 2000 images related to pathology, many of which are rare images, during his long career as a pathologist. He used to run two Flickr streams, one for Atlas of Medical Foreign Bodies https://www.flickr.com/photos/foreignbodies and other for pulmonary pathology https://www.flickr.com/photos/pulmonary_pathology/ images. I had first approached Dr. Rosen for donating a few images, but he kindly offered to donate his entire collection of approximately 2000 images plus the contents from his pathology website http://granuloma.homestead.com/ for use on Wikimedia projects. He had shared several images under CC-BY-SA or lower in the past, and User: CFCF https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CFCF had uploaded them to Commons in 2014. This month, he moved his entire collection to CC-BY-SA, giving me the possibility to upload around 1000 images to Commons. All images from Dr. Rosen's Flickr streams are now available on Wikimedia Commons here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_by_Yale_Rosen_MD.
Please feel free to engage in categorizing, adding structured data and uptaking these images to Wikimedia projects.Kindly write to me if you have any questions or comments.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
-- Netha Hussain Institute of Neuroscience and Physiology University of Gothenburg, Sweden
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Netha: Got it. I would insist you to wait for new wikidata properties to be introduced as per Houcemeddine and then we can get going with it. I would be interested to contribute.
Houcemeddine: This link should help: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal
Regards Diptanshu
Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 15:57, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Diptanshu and Houcemeddine,
Given a choice, I would want the images be under CC0, but in this case it was Dr. Rosen's choice to keep it under CC-BY-SA. I sent him details regarding compatible licenses for Wikimedia, and he chose to go with CC-BY-SA. I respected his choice and thanked him for the license change. I could have been more proactive and encouraged the use of CC-BY, but I didn't see good chances of that discussion meeting with success.
I agree with Houcemeddine's suggestion of having a more refined way of using images on Wikidata. But, I am unable to find any examples where this approach has been used. Has this approach been discussed on Wikidata? I am all in support for separating out CT/ECG/histopathology/gross pathology images on Wikidata items, but I don't yet know if this has been the norm. Houcemeddine, can you help me with this? Please also help me to integrate these images to Wikidata if you are interested.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 12:03, Houcemeddine A. Turki < turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr> wrote:
Dear Ms., I thank you for your answer. As explained in https://doi.org/10.1016/J.JBI.2019.103292, Wikidata lacks support of images of medical items (Symptoms, Diseases, Medical signs, Medical techniques and tests...). The initiative of Dr. Yale Rosen in this context is a significant contribution to Wikidata. However, I should inform you that there are multiple types of medical images. Using P18 Image Wikidata Property without constraints will be imprecise. I propose to add a qualifier to new Wikidata statements in which you define the fabrication method (P2079). These methods are Radiology (Q77604), Computed Tomography (Q32566), Histology (Q7168) and Echography (Q16775363) among others. Other qualifiers about other characteristics of the image such as the used section and coloration should be included as well. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki (he/him) Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group Member, Wiki Project Med Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee ____________________ +21629499418
-------- Message d'origine -------- De : "Dr. Diptanshu Das" das.diptanshu@gmail.com Date : 2019/10/06 08:37 (GMT+01:00) À : Wiki Medicine discussion wikimedia-medicine@lists.wikimedia.org, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com Objet : Re: [Wiki-Medicine] 2000 pathology images by Dr. Yale Rosen to Wikimedia Commons
Dear Netha
That is great news. However, I think that CC-BY would be more appropriate a license for such kind of images? I would seek opinion from James in this regard.
Regards Diptanshu
Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 14:43, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.com wrote:
**Apologies for cross-posting**
Dear all,
I am very happy to share the news of Dr. Yale Rosen's donation of images to Wikimedia Commons. He had shared over 2000 images related to pathology, many of which are rare images, during his long career as a pathologist. He used to run two Flickr streams, one for Atlas of Medical Foreign Bodies https://www.flickr.com/photos/foreignbodies and other for pulmonary pathology https://www.flickr.com/photos/pulmonary_pathology/ images. I had first approached Dr. Rosen for donating a few images, but he kindly offered to donate his entire collection of approximately 2000 images plus the contents from his pathology website http://granuloma.homestead.com/ for use on Wikimedia projects. He had shared several images under CC-BY-SA or lower in the past, and User: CFCF https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CFCF had uploaded them to Commons in 2014. This month, he moved his entire collection to CC-BY-SA, giving me the possibility to upload around 1000 images to Commons. All images from Dr. Rosen's Flickr streams are now available on Wikimedia Commons here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_by_Yale_Rosen_MD.
Please feel free to engage in categorizing, adding structured data and uptaking these images to Wikimedia projects.Kindly write to me if you have any questions or comments.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
-- Netha Hussain Institute of Neuroscience and Physiology University of Gothenburg, Sweden
Wikimedia-Medicine mailing list Wikimedia-Medicine@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-medicine
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On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 17:13, Dr. Diptanshu Das das.diptanshu@gmail.com wrote:
Netha: Got it. I would insist you to wait for new wikidata properties to be introduced as per Houcemeddine and then we can get going with it. I would be interested to contribute.
Houcemeddine: This link should help: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal
Regards Diptanshu
Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 15:57, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Diptanshu and Houcemeddine,
Given a choice, I would want the images be under CC0, but in this case it was Dr. Rosen's choice to keep it under CC-BY-SA. I sent him details regarding compatible licenses for Wikimedia, and he chose to go with CC-BY-SA. I respected his choice and thanked him for the license change. I could have been more proactive and encouraged the use of CC-BY, but I didn't see good chances of that discussion meeting with success.
I agree with Houcemeddine's suggestion of having a more refined way of using images on Wikidata. But, I am unable to find any examples where this approach has been used. Has this approach been discussed on Wikidata? I am all in support for separating out CT/ECG/histopathology/gross pathology images on Wikidata items, but I don't yet know if this has been the norm. Houcemeddine, can you help me with this? Please also help me to integrate these images to Wikidata if you are interested.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 12:03, Houcemeddine A. Turki < turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr> wrote:
Dear Ms., I thank you for your answer. As explained in https://doi.org/10.1016/J.JBI.2019.103292, Wikidata lacks support of images of medical items (Symptoms, Diseases, Medical signs, Medical techniques and tests...). The initiative of Dr. Yale Rosen in this context is a significant contribution to Wikidata. However, I should inform you that there are multiple types of medical images. Using P18 Image Wikidata Property without constraints will be imprecise. I propose to add a qualifier to new Wikidata statements in which you define the fabrication method (P2079). These methods are Radiology (Q77604), Computed Tomography (Q32566), Histology (Q7168) and Echography (Q16775363) among others. Other qualifiers about other characteristics of the image such as the used section and coloration should be included as well. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki (he/him) Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group Member, Wiki Project Med Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee ____________________ +21629499418
-------- Message d'origine -------- De : "Dr. Diptanshu Das" das.diptanshu@gmail.com Date : 2019/10/06 08:37 (GMT+01:00) À : Wiki Medicine discussion wikimedia-medicine@lists.wikimedia.org, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com Objet : Re: [Wiki-Medicine] 2000 pathology images by Dr. Yale Rosen to Wikimedia Commons
Dear Netha
That is great news. However, I think that CC-BY would be more appropriate a license for such kind of images? I would seek opinion from James in this regard.
Regards Diptanshu
Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 14:43, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.com wrote:
**Apologies for cross-posting**
Dear all,
I am very happy to share the news of Dr. Yale Rosen's donation of images to Wikimedia Commons. He had shared over 2000 images related to pathology, many of which are rare images, during his long career as a pathologist. He used to run two Flickr streams, one for Atlas of Medical Foreign Bodies https://www.flickr.com/photos/foreignbodies and other for pulmonary pathology https://www.flickr.com/photos/pulmonary_pathology/ images. I had first approached Dr. Rosen for donating a few images, but he kindly offered to donate his entire collection of approximately 2000 images plus the contents from his pathology website http://granuloma.homestead.com/ for use on Wikimedia projects. He had shared several images under CC-BY-SA or lower in the past, and User: CFCF https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CFCF had uploaded them to Commons in 2014. This month, he moved his entire collection to CC-BY-SA, giving me the possibility to upload around 1000 images to Commons. All images from Dr. Rosen's Flickr streams are now available on Wikimedia Commons here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_by_Yale_Rosen_MD.
Please feel free to engage in categorizing, adding structured data and uptaking these images to Wikimedia projects.Kindly write to me if you have any questions or comments.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
-- Netha Hussain Institute of Neuroscience and Physiology University of Gothenburg, Sweden
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