Dear Mr. or Ms., I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent contribution to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to be useful for digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor. This property is a generalization of the first property proposal I developed. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki
Dear Houcemeddine,
interesting proposal, indeed. I left a comment on the page, which basically says we need qualifiers and references. The references because some claims will be controversial (even if backed up by literature), while I also see these links as likely time bound, due to changing health policies (I can think of a few other reasons), at least for the residence examples (I hope no one gets any ideas about Q4 'risk factor' 'residence' 'war zone').
With kind regards,
Egon
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:05 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki < turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr> wrote:
Dear Mr. or Ms., I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent contribution to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to be useful for digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor. This property is a generalization of the first property proposal I developed. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Dear Mr., I thank you for your answer. This is an absolutely interesting question. The method we will use is based on PubMed Entrez API. Using a Python code, we retrieve the number of PubMed publications jointly involving the name of the disease and the name of the risk factor and we retrieve the PubMed ID of the most relevant search result. As you already know, the relations having important number of query results are more likely to be accurate. After we do this, we will give the list of the retrieved risk factors to a number of physicians for verification. After that, we will add them to Wikidata using QuickStatements. As for the concerns you raised, they are absolutely accurate. We can discuss them in details after the acceptance of the proposal. You can also be a co-author of the work. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki ________________________________ De : Wikidata wikidata-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org de la part de Egon Willighagen egon.willighagen@gmail.com Envoyé : lundi 13 août 2018 06:50 À : Discussion list for the Wikidata project. Cc : mohamed.benaouicha@fss.usf.tn; mohamedali.hadjtaieb@gmail.com; wikimedia-medicine@lists.wikimedia.org Objet : Re: [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property
Dear Houcemeddine,
interesting proposal, indeed. I left a comment on the page, which basically says we need qualifiers and references. The references because some claims will be controversial (even if backed up by literature), while I also see these links as likely time bound, due to changing health policies (I can think of a few other reasons), at least for the residence examples (I hope no one gets any ideas about Q4 'risk factor' 'residence' 'war zone').
With kind regards,
Egon
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:05 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki <turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.frmailto:turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr> wrote: Dear Mr. or Ms., I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent contribution to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to be useful for digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor. This property is a generalization of the first property proposal I developed. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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I have to comment on the following email statement you made that I disagree. You said, "As you already know, the relations having important number of query results are more likely to be accurate." This is a vague comment. I find this most of the time definitely not true. Any person can manipulate the sample. It is not the size of the sample but, the credibility and quality of the sample pool that's important.
Then the statement was written "After we do this, we will give the list of the retrieved risk factors to a number of physicians for verification." Again the sample of physicians that are given the data is important. I the sample pool is from the same school of thought the end result would have no merit. I think the credentials of the sample is important but, I would add research Phd's, nurses, students and patients. etc...
I think Wiki, Wikimedical etc... is doing a good job and I like the open source architectural the mediators are excellent but, I'd like to have links in the sites to a higher level of research information.
Respectfully, Thomas Lapsley TL
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:39 AM, Houcemeddine A. Turki < turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr> wrote:
Dear Mr., I thank you for your answer. This is an absolutely interesting question. The method we will use is based on PubMed Entrez API. Using a Python code, we retrieve the number of PubMed publications jointly involving the name of the disease and the name of the risk factor and we retrieve the PubMed ID of the most relevant search result. As you already know, the relations having important number of query results are more likely to be accurate. After we do this, we will give the list of the retrieved risk factors to a number of physicians for verification. After that, we will add them to Wikidata using QuickStatements. As for the concerns you raised, they are absolutely accurate. We can discuss them in details after the acceptance of the proposal. You can also be a co-author of the work. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki
*De :* Wikidata wikidata-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org de la part de Egon Willighagen egon.willighagen@gmail.com *Envoyé :* lundi 13 août 2018 06:50 *À :* Discussion list for the Wikidata project. *Cc :* mohamed.benaouicha@fss.usf.tn; mohamedali.hadjtaieb@gmail.com; wikimedia-medicine@lists.wikimedia.org *Objet :* Re: [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property
Dear Houcemeddine,
interesting proposal, indeed. I left a comment on the page, which basically says we need qualifiers and references. The references because some claims will be controversial (even if backed up by literature), while I also see these links as likely time bound, due to changing health policies (I can think of a few other reasons), at least for the residence examples (I hope no one gets any ideas about Q4 'risk factor' 'residence' 'war zone').
With kind regards,
Egon
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:05 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki < turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr> wrote:
Dear Mr. or Ms., I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent contribution to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to be useful for digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor. This property is a generalization of the first property proposal I developed. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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Dear Mr., I thank you for your answer. If you like that, we can discuss the method of the automatic extraction of risk factors in details and adjust it. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki ________________________________ De : Wikimedia-Medicine wikimedia-medicine-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org de la part de Thomas Lapsley tomlapsley34@gmail.com Envoyé : jeudi 16 août 2018 04:01:02 À : Wiki Medicine discussion Objet : Re: [Wiki-Medicine] [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property
I have to comment on the following email statement you made that I disagree. You said, "As you already know, the relations having important number of query results are more likely to be accurate." This is a vague comment. I find this most of the time definitely not true. Any person can manipulate the sample. It is not the size of the sample but, the credibility and quality of the sample pool that's important.
Then the statement was written "After we do this, we will give the list of the retrieved risk factors to a number of physicians for verification." Again the sample of physicians that are given the data is important. I the sample pool is from the same school of thought the end result would have no merit. I think the credentials of the sample is important but, I would add research Phd's, nurses, students and patients. etc...
I think Wiki, Wikimedical etc... is doing a good job and I like the open source architectural the mediators are excellent but, I'd like to have links in the sites to a higher level of research information.
Respectfully, Thomas Lapsley TL
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:39 AM, Houcemeddine A. Turki <turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.frmailto:turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr> wrote: Dear Mr., I thank you for your answer. This is an absolutely interesting question. The method we will use is based on PubMed Entrez API. Using a Python code, we retrieve the number of PubMed publications jointly involving the name of the disease and the name of the risk factor and we retrieve the PubMed ID of the most relevant search result. As you already know, the relations having important number of query results are more likely to be accurate. After we do this, we will give the list of the retrieved risk factors to a number of physicians for verification. After that, we will add them to Wikidata using QuickStatements. As for the concerns you raised, they are absolutely accurate. We can discuss them in details after the acceptance of the proposal. You can also be a co-author of the work. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki ________________________________ De : Wikidata <wikidata-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikidata-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> de la part de Egon Willighagen <egon.willighagen@gmail.commailto:egon.willighagen@gmail.com> Envoyé : lundi 13 août 2018 06:50 À : Discussion list for the Wikidata project. Cc : mohamed.benaouicha@fss.usf.tnmailto:mohamed.benaouicha@fss.usf.tn; mohamedali.hadjtaieb@gmail.commailto:mohamedali.hadjtaieb@gmail.com; wikimedia-medicine@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:wikimedia-medicine@lists.wikimedia.org Objet : Re: [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property
Dear Houcemeddine,
interesting proposal, indeed. I left a comment on the page, which basically says we need qualifiers and references. The references because some claims will be controversial (even if backed up by literature), while I also see these links as likely time bound, due to changing health policies (I can think of a few other reasons), at least for the residence examples (I hope no one gets any ideas about Q4 'risk factor' 'residence' 'war zone').
With kind regards,
Egon
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:05 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki <turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.frmailto:turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr> wrote: Dear Mr. or Ms., I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent contribution to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to be useful for digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor. This property is a generalization of the first property proposal I developed. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
-- E.L. Willighagen Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/) Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ PubList: https://www.zotero.org/egonw ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286http://orcid.org/0000-0001-7542-0286 ImpactStory: https://impactstory.org/u/egonwillighagen
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