Wikimedia-IN-PUN December 2011

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Fw: [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia
by Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia 05 Jan '12

05 Jan '12

Dear All From Marathi Language Wikipedia we had requested mediawiki technical team to make a phonetic Marathi font transliteration system default for all anonymous users and new editors who have not completed edits upto 500 edits just simply because if we study edits of new comers and anonymous users it seems that they usualy do not understand how to enable present optional transliteration system. the Narayam extension as updated for Marathi Language is in beta version available for testing attranslatewiki.net . We have received following reply to our Our technical request which is submitted at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669 This is for your information and discussion after the discussion we will put the information on Marathi Wikipedia poll page and confirm apropriate marathi wikipedia community decesion. Following forwarded reply is self explanatory, We seek openions from all of you so this is for your information and discussion .Please keep this discussion in english so non marathi development team members can understand our discussion. Regards mahitgar ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "bugzilla-daemon(a)wikimedia.org" <bugzilla-daemon(a)wikimedia.org> To: mahitgar(a)yahoo.co.in Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 12:35 PM Subject: [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669 --- Comment #2 from Santhosh Thottingal <santhosh.thottingal(a)gmail.com> 2011-12-12 07:05:32 UTC --- (In reply to comment #0) > Dear All , > Thanks for updating Narayam to Marathi Language requirements in recent > Hackathon in Mumbai.(You can view the google online presentation at > [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1uWz-tCvrRg5GaPh5lD_0aPy9CnUmRUVaHcs…] > > Now herewith Marathi Language Wikipedia requests to enable Narayam extension on > Marathi Language Wikipedia with along with following features (Please see > Community aproval http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:कौल ) The extension is available at translatewiki.net , and we marked as beta till we get feedback from the community that it is stable can be enabled in mr.wikipedia. So please test and give us confirmation that it works as expected. > 1)Narayam should be default font inputting system for all unregistered users > and all users for upto 500 edit We can make Narayam enabled by default. But the extension does not check the edits count. > 2) The requested inputting facility should be applicable on all namespaces > including inter active popup windows meant for inserting links and references This should be ok. > 3)Also applicable at edit summary,all search windows,all input boxes specialy > "type=create" group The extension will be enabled in all editable fields. > 4)Shall have Marathi inscript keyboard layout option too as per windows > non-default option Transliteration is the default one. > 5)Should be applicable to all skins including vector We don't support all the mediiawiki skins. Extension supports Vector, Monobook, Modern skins. > 6. Narayam should be default to above said user category to New User Creation > and User Login Extension does not distinguish uses based on any category. > 7.Narayam keyboard structure should be editable to Marathi Wikipedia sysops at > local level No, The extension does not provide this feature. If the community is ok with the extension after verifying it at translatewiki.net, please inform us here. We will enable it in mr wikis in the next i18n deployment. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You reported the bug.

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Report on Wikipedians participation in CMDA IT Expo, 2011- (15 to 18 Dec. 2011)
by Sudhanwa Jogalekar 04 Jan '12

04 Jan '12

Report on Wikipedians participation in CMDA IT Expo, 2011- (15 to 18 Dec. 2011) About CMDA: CMDA, Pune is an association of Computer and Media dealers in Pune. It is a registered organisation and is ISO 9000 certified. Recently, it is declared as the best Computer dealers association across India by DQ Week magazine. Website: www.cmdapune.org *About IT Expo: * CMDA organises IT expo every year. This was 14th year of the expo and was held during 15-18 Dec 2011. As per CMDA organisors, the no. of visitors this year was about 40000. About our activities: CMDA gave us a 2m X 2m stall. The usual cost for the stall is about Rs 25,000. However, considering that we are not doing any business activities and are working for a social cause, this was given to us GRATIS. The stall allocation was confirmed at a very late stage. As such, the call for volunteers was also sent very late and we were running short of people to man the stall. On day 1, (15th Dec), user:Mahitgar, Sudhanwa, Hisham and Nitika started the activities in the morning session. Flex banners were put up and the printed handouts were ready to be distributed. Hisham and Nitika came all the way from Delhi for this. They also got some T shirts for distribution to the right people. Our stall was the last stall in the expo and was adjoining the seminar hall. After the inauguration, people started visiting our stall. The chief guest was visiting all the stalls and he visited our stall also. He was pleasantly surprised to see our activities (non-commercial, social cause) in the expo. On day 1, second half was handled by Ashwin and Mahitgar. We had printed a handout to create a generic awareness about Wikipedia. This was in English on one side and about Marathi Wikipedia on the other side. Initially, we had about 200 handouts printed as the response was not known to us. Ultimately, we had to make many copies many times as the response went on increasing day by day. Day 2 (16th Dec) was managed by Mahitgar, Ashwin, Abhishek and some other CA volunteers. For the CAs, it was a great experience to interact with the people face to face and answer all kinds of their queries. This was totally different from the usual CA activities where they interact with people who are already much aware of Wikipedia and editing and may be other projects too. Abhishek and some others managed the stall till afternoon and later on by Sudhanwa and some others like Pratik. In the evening, Mahitgar gave a talk on the topic “Marathi Wikipedia- Challenges and Future” in the seminar hall which was received very well. Day 3 (17th Dec) was a hectic day being Saturday, the weekend. Mahitgar and Sudhanwa handled the 1st half. Ashwin joined with his spouse for a couple of hours. Mandar joined in the 2nd half till the day ends. There was really an energetic crowd who visited the stall and asked many many questions. Day 4 (18th Dec) Mandar handled the stall since morning for whole day. He was alone there till lunch time when some more volunteers including Ashwin, Mahitgar came to help him out. Being a Sunday, the fourth day was very hectic and most crowded. Some more volunteers like Lochan Makheja (Hindi Wikipedian from Pune) were also added but it was still difficult to address all the visitors to our stall. Even with 4 volunteers at a time, we were not able handle the running crowd at peak hour on Sunday evening. We had kept a notebook at the stall and noted down names and contact details of the people who were interested in further Wikipedia related activities. During the 4 days of expo, we have collected names and contact details of the interested people and that number is about 250!! That is big enough to have multiple wiki-academies in Pune in the next few months. Our guesstimate of the no of people visited our stall is about 3000. While many visitors knew what Wikipedia is, most were not aware that it is also available in Indian languages, especially Marathi. The few who were aware of both were not aware of other projects like Commons, Wikisource etc. People were mostly unaware of the implications of copyrighted and freely licensed information.The expo gave a very good opportunity to interact with the people directly and get a feel of what the common people understand/know about Wikipedia. Here are some USUAL questions that we faced in the expo. 1. What is the price of Wikipedia? I want to buy some copies. :-) (to be specific - Wikipedia kitne me bech rahe ho.... ) 2. You are not selling anything here? !!! Then why are you in the expo? 3. You are not getting anything from Wikipedia, then why are you standing for whole day on the stall? 4. If anyone can edit Wikipedia, what is the assurance that the content is correct and authentic? 5. Can you edit Wikipedia in Marathi/Hindi? How? 6. If I write any article on Wikipedia, will there be my name on the article? 7 If I type some search string in Marathi (Devanagari), you get search pages in Marathi/ Marathi Wikipedia?? !! 8. If I type in English (Roman) on English Wikipedia,can I get pages from Marathi Wikipedia? 9. When and where you meet? I want to join your activities. 10. What? You can directly edit content on the Wikipedia? Apart from this, in the expo we could interact face to face with Marathi Wikipedia users and the activity helped in explaining Marathi typing in more easier way.This interaction will help in improving related help pages on Marathi Wikipedia. (Marathi Wikipedia sandbox has a good number of trial and error edits of people trying to type in Marathi using phonetic facility and still not succeeding in their effort) It was also observed that the number of visiting women was good but at times the stall being small, it was crowded and they could not come forward to listen amongst the jostling men. Next time we should give a thought to request and hopefully get additional space (and also women volunteers) for addressing women. The happiest experiences were when school children were stopping their parents saying “Papa Mummy Wikipedia Stall !!’ and that naturally made those parents stop at our stall and see what it was all about. it would be great if we are able to get academic fraternity and more volunteer support as many such expos will be forthcoming in the near future. It would be great to arrange such expos in bigger education campuses too. Remarkably, this was a second consecutive year for the expo having a Marathi Wikipedia seminar. Last year’s talk was given by Abhay Natu and this year Mahitgar spoke on “Marathi Wikipedia: Challenges and Future”. Mahitgar used the opportunity to focus on areas where Marathi language has scope to provide significant knowledge. Mahitgar opined that all the technology is available and volunteers are there to support the activity. The real challenge is to bring back the confidence of the people that they can avail all the knowledge in their own language by cooperating each other through projects like indic language Wikipedias. Thanks to Wikimedia projects, the key of the future is in their own hands. *Expenditure:* We had asked for a grant to GAC on almost the last minute and it was sanctioned very quickly. (Money yet to be received in the account) We have asked for about 11000 INR that includes printing, stationary, CD/DVD burning, etc etc. Out of this, we spent about 5000/- Rs. (Expenditure details yet to come from the volunteers) Remaining money was not utilised as additional activities like CD burning, making some goodies like stickers, key chains etc. could not be done as all the volunteers were stuck up at the stall itself. The amount will be used for the given purpose but for/during our further activities like Wiki-academies. *Pictures:* Abhishek has already uploaded some pictures and will be uploading some videos also. Sudhanwa is uploading some photos in the category "CMDA IT Expo 2011, 15-18 Dec" on commons*. We will also try to get some pictures from the expo organisers.* *Conclusion:* With the kind of manpower we had and the time and money in hand, the kind of outreach we achieved is extraordinary. Almost 3000 people interacted and of these 250 showed interest in future activities!! Some of them are very useful people like librarians. We met some editors also in the expo. Some of them are from rural area and are doing work in Marathi!! All of them were unaware of the presence of the Pune Community and we were able to get some dedicated new members to the community. Probably, considering the outreach we had and the response we got in the expo, it is even worth paying for the stall next year!! We can do much better next time if we get enough time span for planning and execution of activities -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more.

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Happy New Year to Wikimedians from Pune!
by Ashwin Baindur 31 Dec '11

31 Dec '11

Wishing all editors on Wikimedia-in-Pun a very Happy New Year! Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------

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Invite for WikiWomenCamp
by Noopur 23 Dec '11

23 Dec '11

Dear all, This is to invite all the women editors and contributors on Wikipedia and other sister projects from India to *WikiWomenCamp*. I'd like to invite all our fellow women members from the chapter and contributors outside to attend the conference in Buenos Aires, Argentina in May 2012. While the conference is largely aimed at women involved in the Wikimedia movement, the organisers feel that women editors from Wikipedia, helping on Indic communities can also offer a unique perspective that can be of use to female leaders inside the Wikimedia movement and help expand the movement to make it inclusive for all. In turn, we hope that we can provide them with contacts and assistance with their work related projects. Details related to the conference can be found at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp Do pass this on to the other lists concerned and hope to see substantial participation from India.Let's do it! :) Warmly Noopur -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690

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Welcoming Subhashish Panigrahi
by Hisham 22 Dec '11

22 Dec '11

[cross-posting to reach pan-India; apologies if you have got it from some other mailing list.] Hi Folks, As you might be aware, the Consultant, Team Support position is to be filled as part of the India Programs team. (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004251….) I am really pleased and excited to announce that Subhashish Panigrahi has agreed to join as Consultant, Community & Program Support. Some of you might know Subhashish (or Subha as he's also called.) He is all of 23 and a wonderful Wikimedian from Odisha. He has a BE in Biotechnology from Sapthagiri College of Engineering, Bangalore. He has worked for about 1 1/2 years in business development and is currently based in Bangalore. He's been an active Wikimedian since a friend of his attended a Wikipedia 10th event in Bangalore in January and told Subha about Wikipedia. Subha then spent considerable time - quite a bit of it in Shiju Alex's living room apparently :-) - learning about Wikipedia. Since then, he's been on fire! He's helped the Bangalore community organise the monthly meet-ups, been a central figure in building community & momentum for Odia Wikipedia and has conducted outreach programs for Odia projects back home in Odisha as well as in Bangalore. He's also been helping out other projects and communities; a couple of weekends ago he was in Chennai conducting a WikiAcademy there. He is a fantastically inspiring example of a complete outsider being welcomed into the family, having his hand held in his growth as a newbie, charging forward taking responsibility & ownership and then spreading his skills & knowledge to others. He is also one of the sweetest human beings I have ever met. He is a perfect example of the Wikimedia Dream. His interests (outside of Wikimedia) are cooking, graphic design and handwriting analysis. (I bet most of you who know Subha don't know that last bit about him. So the next time you see him, show him your writing and get him to reveal your deep dark secrets!) He has also been involved with campaigns for social work during the floods and cholera outbreak in Odisha and been involved with a Odisha community organisation, eOdissa.com. Originally, the Consultant, Team Support position (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs#Team_S…) was to manage the back-end aspects of India Programs (basic accounting, basic personnel management, office administration, travel support, expense statement management, logistics support for the community, etc.) I have been looking at the actual work load involved and I do not think this is a full time role. The functions listed are essential and need to be done - but there is an opportunity to improve the richness of the position and it's value to the community. I'm therefore proposing that the Consultant, Team Support be redesignated to Consultant, Community & Program Support. I envisage this position to have about 1/3 of time spent on the back-end work listed above but 2/3 of time can be very productively utilised supporting community efforts - such as helping community building & outreach and supporting community-led initiatives. An important consideration I have for this redesignation is after looking at the specific skills that Subha brings to the table; I want to make sure that he has the required space to realise his potential and to support the community and movement. Subha will of course continue to pursue his personal voluntary work for and as part of the Wikimedia community. The one question that he emphasized during the selection process was whether he would retain the flexibility to continue to pursue his personal passions on Wikimedia; the answer he got was a loud Y-E-S!!! :-) I'm delighted to have another community member joining the team. He'll formally start in Delhi on January 9th 2012. Do join me in welcoming him. Warmest Regards, hisham

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Fw: Request for unsubscribing me from the mailing list
by Dr Bharati Pardeshi 14 Dec '11

14 Dec '11

Dear Sir  Please unsubscribe me Dr PARDESHI From: Subhashish Panigrahi <psubhashish(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:37:49 To: Wikimedia-IN-PUN(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Request for unsubscribing me from the mailing list Hi, Please unsubscribe me from the mailing list. regards                ସୁ ଭ              S u b h a  ଓଡ଼ିଆଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆO d i a W i k i M a i l i n g l i s t   _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-IN-PUN mailing list Wikimedia-IN-PUN(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-pun

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मराठी विकिपीडिया स्टॉल CMDA IT expo 15th to18th December 2011.वेळ सकाळी १० ते सायं ८ College of Engineering ground, येथे जमावे
by Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia 14 Dec '11

14 Dec '11

नमस्कार, CMDA IT expo.मराठी विकिपीडिया स्टॉल (PLUG स्टॉलच्या जवळचा स्टॉल) 15th to18th December 2011.वेळ सकाळी १० ते सायं ८ College of Engineering ground, Shivaji nagar, पुणे. मराठी विकिपीडिया स्टॉलवर मराठी विकिपीडियाची माहिती नवागतांना देण्यासाठी मराठी विकिपीडिया चहात्यांनी उपस्थित रहावे. स्टॉलकरिता वेळ देऊ शकाल ते कळवावे खास करून खास करून उद्या गुरवार 15th आणि परवा शुक्रवारी 18thवेळ देऊ शकणार्‍या कार्यकर्त्यांनी आवर्जून उपस्थिती नोंदवावी. शनिवार व रविवार व्हिजीटर गर्दी अधिक असते त्यामुळे त्या दिवशीही वेळ द्यावा ही नम्र विनंती अधिक माहिती संपर्क sudhanwa.com(a)gmail.com आपला नम्र माहितगार

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Request for unsubscribing me from the mailing list
by Subhashish Panigrahi 13 Dec '11

13 Dec '11

Hi, Please unsubscribe me from the mailing list. regards * ସୁ ଭ * * S u b h a * *ଓଡ଼ିଆଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ* *O d i a W i k i M a i l i n g l i s t*<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or> <http://facebook.com/subhashishp> <http://twitter.com/subhashishp><http://or.wikipedia.org>

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Fw: The monthly Pune meetup will take place at SICSR , 7th Floor, at 6 PM on Sat, 10th Dec 2011.
by Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia 10 Dec '11

10 Dec '11

----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Mandar Kulkarni <mvkulkarni23(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: Sent: Friday, 9 December 2011 7:51 PM Subject: The monthly Pune meetup will take place at SICSR , 7th Floor, at 6 PM on Sat, 10th Dec 2011. Just a reminder...... Dear friends, The monthly Pune meetup will take place at SICSR , 7th Floor, at 6 PM on Sat, 10th Dec 2011. The points on the agenda are : * WikiConference update * CMDA preperation * Translate wiki update * Marathi Wikisource * Marathi Wikipatrika All Pune Wikipedians and Campus Ambassadors are requested to come for the meetup. With Regards, Mandar V. Kulkarni http://mr.wikipedia.org

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Fwd: Announcing - WikiProject Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools
by Ashwin Baindur 09 Dec '11

09 Dec '11

For Info only. All responses on English Wikipedia list - wikipedia-in-en please. Subscription page - https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en Archives - http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-in-en/ Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.baindur(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:39 PM Subject: Announcing - WikiProject Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools To: WikiProject India mailing list <wikimedia-in-en(a)lists.wikimedia.org> ANNOUNCING A NEW WIKIPROJECT (WikiProject Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools) Dear friends, This is to announce the beginning of a new project for WikiProject India - WikiProject Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools (OWIS). For quite some time now, there has been a need for an offline wikipedia compilation suitable to Indian schools. There are, and have always been, a whole lot of Indian schools and students out there who do not have access to an English encyclopedia. The web has killed off a whole range of printed encyclopedias and factbooks besides paid encyclopedia packages such as Encarta. If the school does not provide wide-spread, regular and dependable access to the web. then the students have zilch. So, keeping in mind that English Wikipedia has been around for more than a decade and has more than enough material for an encyclopedia, we began this project so that all interested people could pitch in and collectively prepare such offline compilations which are the need of the hour. About the Wikiproject To do this, we began a new WikiProject in English Wikipedia, daughter to WikiProject India. Titled WikiProject Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools(OWIS), it is intended to be the umbrella WikiProject for all Indian versions of offline English language wikipedias for students and communities. The WikiProject will concentrate on content issues and leave the production to a team of technically oriented guys from the community (to be decided later). You can read about the WikiProject page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Offline_Wikipedia_for_In… Under this WikiProject, it is proposed to provide a variety of compilations suitable for various needs, such as a full offline encyclopedia, single disc collations on topics related to India etc. The first project To begin with, we felt it is best to create a single DVD compilation with all subjects covered in sufficient detail. We have named it as Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools (Full version) or OWIS-FULL (in short). It is based on and will be similar to the SOS Children’s Village Offline Wikipedia for School which you can checkout for yourself at this link: http://schools-wikipedia.org/ The project page for this first project is here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Offline_Wikipedia_for_Indian_Sc… The SOS village compilation is CD based with approximately 6500 articles based on the British educational syllabus. Naturally, it contains a large number of topics relevant only to the UK and has a distinct Western flavour in its overall choice too, which is only natural. To make this compilation suitable for our environment, we will have to not only add a whole host of new articles on Indian topics to the compilation but also remove topics/articles irrelevant to Indian students. In addition, the SOS Children’s Encyclopaedia, being in existence for the last few years, is designed to fit on a CD with the consequence that the number of articles on a subject cover a subject satisfactorily but skimpily. Since we plan our compilation to be on a DVD, there is scope to improve coverage on all subjects as well. Hence it is planned to have in the region of around 9000 articles. So where are we now? As a first step we have established the framework in the form of the WikiProject and pages where one can work. The list of topics from the SOS compilation has been prepared subjectwise. These lists need to be vetted/improved/extended and then finalised. As of now, six subjects have been opened up for topic selection - Art, IT, Maths, Physics, Biology and Chemistry. We need motivated editors to join the teams and pitch in. The selection of topics needs to be completed in ten days time so that we can move on to other subjects, other tasks. So, if this venture interests you, if you want to do something really important with us, if you agree with our proposition that this is critical for delivering the potential of Wikipedia to digitally-challenged communities, sign up here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Offline_Wikipedia_for_In… All the best to all of us to successfully complete this vital project. This email is being reflected on Wikimedia India list for information. But If you would like to respond to this, please respond to on the English Wikipedia for India mailing list - https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en Everyone is welcome to subscribe to it. Ashwin Baindur

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