Good morning,

What about "African industries and commercial activities "

Best Regards

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023, 9:32 AM Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:

What about "Wiki Loves Africa's Living Heritage"

On Tue, 5 Sept 2023 at 05:16, Wilson Oluoha wilson@wikiinafrica.org wrote:

...

Dear Wikimedians,

The search for a theme for the *2024 Wiki Loves Africa* contest is still ongoing.

Please click the link below to share your thoughts on what you think the next Wiki Loves Africa theme should be:

WLA 2024 Theme Suggestions https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfW6Ld6EDJP7PZRON01jx8kiqFmobBX34xac0_kG60FTEr6dA/viewform?usp=pp_url

Kindly recall that Wiki Loves Africa https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Africa ( www.wikilovesafrica.net) is an annual photography competition that takes place across Africa. It was designed to take back the visual narrative by re-imaging contemporary society and cultural heritage across Africa through the eyes of Africa’s photographers.

Wiki Loves Africa images have collectively - since metrics began in 2016

• been viewed 1 billion times.

Started in 2014, the 9 editions so far have resulted in the contribution of 102,068 images to Wikipedia's media library, Wikimedia Commons, by over 10,380 photographers from 55 countries across the continent. The images have a life beyond the competition, with these images being placed in articles on Wikipedia, and thus being viewed by over 1 billion times since the impact began being monitored from 2016; with 25 million views in May 2022 alone.

• 2014 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2014:

*Cuisine*

• 2015 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2015: *Cultural

Fashion and Adornment*

• 2016 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2016: *Music

and Dance*

• 2017 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2017: *People

at Work*

• 2019 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2019:

*Play!*

• 2020 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2020: *Africa

on the Move*

• 2021 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2021: *Health

• Wellness*

• 2022 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2022: *Home

• Habitat*

• 2023 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2023 : *Climate

and Weather*

• *2024**: **???*

Warm Regards

---

Chers Wikimédiens,

La recherche d'un thème pour le concours* Wiki Loves Africa 2024* est toujours en cours.

Veuillez cliquer sur le lien ci-dessous pour partager vos idées sur ce que vous pensez être le prochain thème de Wiki Loves Africa:

WLA thème proposé pour 2024 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfW6Ld6EDJP7PZRON01jx8kiqFmobBX34xac0_kG60FTEr6dA/viewform?usp=pp_url

Wiki Loves Africa https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Africa;( www.wikilovesafrica.net) est un concours annuel de photographie qui se déroule dans toute l'Afrique. Il a été conçu pour reprendre le récit visuel en réimaginant la société contemporaine et le patrimoine culturel à travers l'Afrique à travers les yeux des photographes africains.

Les images de Wiki Loves Africa ont collectivement - depuis le début des mesures en 2016 - été vues 1 milliard de fois.

Démarrés en 2014, les 9 éditions à ce jour ont abouti à la contribution de 102 068 images à la médiathèque de Wikipédia, Wikimedia Commons, par plus de 10 380 photographes de 55 pays à travers le continent. Les images ont une vie au-delà du concours, puisqu'elles sont placées dans des articles de Wikipédia et ont donc été vues plus d'un milliard de fois depuis que l'impact a commencé à être surveillé à partir de 2016 ; avec 25 millions de vues pour le seul mois de mai 2022.

• 2014 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2014:

*Cuisine*

• 2015 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2015: *Mode

et parure culturelle*

• 2016 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2016: *Musique

et danse*

• 2017 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2017: *Les

gens au travail*

• 2019 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2019:

*Jouez!*

• 2020 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2020: *L'Afrique

en mouvement*

• 2021 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2021: *Santé

• Bien-être*

• 2022 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2022: *Home

• Habitat*

• 2023 WLA https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2023 : *Climat

et météo*

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Hello

I am going to comment on this one for I think it provides the opportunity to reflect on our global campaigns and collaborations-at-large.

It is an excellent theme obviously. But one I would oppose we choose. There are several reasons.

First, the initial reason why we decided to launch WLA in 2014. We had noticed that participation from the African continent at that time was terribly low. When awareness studies were made, it showed that the Wikimedia projects were yet very poorly known from the public (even the online connect public). We knew our first participants would be largely new to the wiki world. Our goal was to promote awareness of wikimedia through a regular, easy to grasp project, easy to participate drive. We also wanted a drive where anyone could participate regardless of whether there was a local team in their country or not. There were very few images from the african continent, so any theme would bring in content that would be an improvement. And choice of theme had to be a theme behind which a small team could cluster, regardless of political, religious etc. opinions. Our goal was not to simply "get images on Commons", but also to raise awareness on the continent, and to give the opportunity to small local clusters to start organizing something together and later become a usergroup, become integrated in the larger community etc.

This is why the themes we chose so far were purposefully as inclusive as possible, easy to understand, could be joined by anyone. I do not believe "Living Heritage" fits into that category so well. If you ask the standard person in the street what "living heritage" is... chance is you'll get a puzzled look.

9 years later, an additional layer of complexity is that more photography contests born (such as Wiki Loves Folklore) or more "larger approach drives" such as "Wiki Loves Living Heritage". It already took us a few years to "make all photo drives" fit in the calendar (eg, Wiki Loves Africa changed its implementation months three times to accomodate other photo contests). I do not think it would be helpful to overlap with the other contests focus. In particular when Wiki Loves Folklore is already overlapping a couple of weeks with Wiki Loves Africa in the calendar. - First it would bring confusion to participants (so... what's the difference between x and y ?) - Second, it could bring tensions between the organizers of the two drives, such as on communications, banners... (been there, done that...) - Third, local teams would probably NOT "do more" or "do better". They would implement activities that would be attributed to both drives. You would end up with pictures taggued with both categories. It already happens.

We would certainly "reach" some different people. Not all participants would be overlapping, nor activities. But would the overlapping and the tensions be worth the effort ? Would that be a good use of our collective time ? Would that be a good use of our shared funds ? I do not think so.

Which is why... we try... every year... to choose a theme that tries not to overlap too badly with the other photo contest themes. This is in particular true to anything related to "folklore and heritage"  (= Wiki Loves Folklore, Wiki Loves Heritage) and true to anything related to "awesome landscapes and nature" (=Wiki Loves Earth).

We gotta be smart, share the space-fund-energy-time, and collaborate when it makes sense to collaborate, but always keeping in mind to preserve or enhance the other great initiatives.

Flo

Le 05/09/2023 à 09:31, Gnangarra a écrit :

What about "Wiki Loves Africa's Living Heritage"

On Tue, 5 Sept 2023 at 05:16, Wilson Oluoha wilson@wikiinafrica.org wrote:

Dear Wikimedians,

The search for a theme for the *2024 Wiki Loves Africa* contest is
still ongoing.

Please click the link below to share your thoughts on what you
think the next Wiki Loves Africa theme should be:

WLA 2024 Theme Suggestions
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfW6Ld6EDJP7PZRON01jx8kiqFmobBX34xac0_kG60FTEr6dA/viewform?usp=pp_url>

Kindly recall that Wiki Loves Africa
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Africa> (www.wikilovesafrica.net
<http://www.wikilovesafrica.net/>) is an annual photography
competition that takes place across Africa. It was designed to
take back the visual narrative by re-imaging contemporary society
and cultural heritage across Africa through the eyes of Africa’s
photographers.

Wiki Loves Africa images have collectively - since metrics began
in 2016 - been viewed 1 billion times.

Started in 2014, the 9 editions so far have resulted in the
contribution of 102,068 images to Wikipedia's media library,
Wikimedia Commons, by over 10,380 photographers from 55 countries
across the continent. The images have a life beyond the
competition, with these images being placed in articles on
Wikipedia, and thus being viewed by over 1 billion times since the
impact began being monitored from 2016; with 25 million views in
May 2022 alone.

  * 2014 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2014>:
    /Cuisine/
  * 2015 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2015>:
    /Cultural Fashion and Adornment/
  * 2016 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2016>:
    /Music and Dance/
  * 2017 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2017>:
    /People at Work/
  * 2019 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2019>: /Play!/
  * 2020 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2020>:
    /Africa on the Move/
  * 2021 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2021>:
    /Health + Wellness/
  * 2022 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2022>:
    /Home + Habitat/

  * 2023 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2023> :
    /Climate and Weather/
  * *2024*/: /*???*


Warm Regards
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


  Chers Wikimédiens,

La recherche d'un thème pour le concours*Wiki Loves Africa 2024*
est toujours en cours.

Veuillez cliquer sur le lien ci-dessous pour partager vos idées
sur ce que vous pensez être le prochain thème de Wiki Loves Africa:

WLA thème proposé pour 2024
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfW6Ld6EDJP7PZRON01jx8kiqFmobBX34xac0_kG60FTEr6dA/viewform?usp=pp_url>

Wiki Loves Africa
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Africa>;(www.wikilovesafrica.net
<http://www.wikilovesafrica.net/>) est un concours annuel de
photographie qui se déroule dans toute l'Afrique. Il a été conçu
pour reprendre le récit visuel en réimaginant la société
contemporaine et le patrimoine culturel à travers l'Afrique à
travers les yeux des photographes africains.

Les images de Wiki Loves Africa ont collectivement - depuis le
début des mesures en 2016 - été vues 1 milliard de fois.

Démarrés en 2014, les 9 éditions à ce jour ont abouti à la
contribution de 102 068 images à la médiathèque de Wikipédia,
Wikimedia Commons, par plus de 10 380 photographes de 55 pays à
travers le continent. Les images ont une vie au-delà du concours,
puisqu'elles sont placées dans des articles de Wikipédia et ont
donc été vues plus d'un milliard de fois depuis que l'impact a
commencé à être surveillé à partir de 2016 ; avec 25 millions de
vues pour le seul mois de mai 2022.

  * 2014 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2014>:
    /Cuisine/
  * 2015 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2015>:
    /Mode et parure culturelle/
  * 2016 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2016>:
    /Musique et danse/
  * 2017 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2017>: /Les
    gens au travail/
  * 2019 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2019>: /Jouez!/
  * 2020 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2020>:
    /L'Afrique en mouvement/
  * 2021 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2021>:
    /Santé + Bien-être/
  * 2022 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2022>:
    /Home + Habitat/

  * 2023 WLA
    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2023> :
    /Climat et météo/


Très cordialement
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Absolutely correct. We can revisit. For example, our best theme ever was "People at Work" (second best was Play). "African industries and commercial activities" suggested by Clementine is in that vein.

Another element is that in the past couple of years, we have put some energy in getting the contest not only about photos, but also about graphics, audios and videos. Graphics has been a total failure so far, but the videos are raising interest :)

Flo

Le 05/09/2023 à 17:08, Gnangarra a écrit :

Flo makes a very good point about themes and overlapping or conflicting purposes. Is there a reason to find a new theme its 10 years since Wiki Loves Africa began why not revisit an earlier theme itsnot like technology has stood still, nor is the community the same people, and even the audience is changing as a new generation of contributors are discovering us for the first time.

Communities dont have to come up with something new every year, the aim is about making it appealing to a new audience

On Tue, 5 Sept 2023 at 22:30, Florence Devouard fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:

Hello


I am going to comment on this one for I think it provides the
opportunity to reflect on our global campaigns and
collaborations-at-large.

It is an excellent theme obviously. But one I would oppose we
choose. There are several reasons.

First, the initial reason why we decided to launch WLA in 2014. We
had noticed that participation from the African continent at that
time was terribly low. When awareness studies were made, it showed
that the Wikimedia projects were yet very poorly known from the
public (even the online connect public). We knew our first
participants would be largely new to the wiki world. Our goal was
to promote awareness of wikimedia through a regular, easy to grasp
project, easy to participate drive. We also wanted a drive where
anyone could participate regardless of whether there was a local
team in their country or not. There were very few images from the
african continent, so any theme would bring in content that would
be an improvement. And choice of theme had to be a theme behind
which a small team could cluster, regardless of political,
religious etc. opinions. Our goal was not to simply "get images on
Commons", but also to raise awareness on the continent, and to
give the opportunity to small local clusters to start organizing
something together and later become a usergroup, become integrated
in the larger community etc.

This is why the themes we chose so far were purposefully as
inclusive as possible, easy to understand, could be joined by
anyone. I do not believe "Living Heritage" fits into that category
so well. If you ask the standard person in the street what "living
heritage" is... chance is you'll get a puzzled look.

9 years later, an additional layer of complexity is that more
photography contests born (such as Wiki Loves Folklore) or more
"larger approach drives" such as "Wiki Loves Living Heritage".
It already took us a few years to "make all photo drives" fit in
the calendar (eg, Wiki Loves Africa changed its implementation
months three times to accomodate other photo contests).
I do not think it would be helpful to overlap with the other
contests focus. In particular when Wiki Loves Folklore is already
overlapping a couple of weeks with Wiki Loves Africa in the calendar.
- First it would bring confusion to participants (so... what's the
difference between x and y ?)
- Second, it could bring tensions between the organizers of the
two drives, such as on communications, banners... (been there,
done that...)
- Third, local teams would probably NOT "do more" or "do better".
They would implement activities that would be attributed to both
drives. You would end up with pictures taggued with both
categories. It already happens.

We would certainly "reach" some different people. Not all
participants would be overlapping, nor activities.
But would the overlapping and the tensions be worth the effort ?
Would that be a good use of our collective time ? Would that be a
good use of our shared funds ? I do not think so.

Which is why... we try... every year... to choose a theme that
tries not to overlap too badly with the other photo contest
themes. This is in particular true to anything related to
"folklore and heritage"  (= Wiki Loves Folklore, Wiki Loves
Heritage) and true to anything related to "awesome landscapes and
nature" (=Wiki Loves Earth).

We gotta be smart, share the space-fund-energy-time, and
collaborate when it makes sense to collaborate, but always keeping
in mind to preserve or enhance the other great initiatives.

Flo


Le 05/09/2023 à 09:31, Gnangarra a écrit :

...

What about "Wiki Loves Africa's Living Heritage"

On Tue, 5 Sept 2023 at 05:16, Wilson Oluoha
<wilson@wikiinafrica.org> wrote:

    Dear Wikimedians,

    The search for a theme for the *2024 Wiki Loves
    Africa* contest is still ongoing.

    Please click the link below to share your thoughts on what
    you think the next Wiki Loves Africa theme should be:

    WLA 2024 Theme Suggestions
    <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfW6Ld6EDJP7PZRON01jx8kiqFmobBX34xac0_kG60FTEr6dA/viewform?usp=pp_url>

    Kindly recall that Wiki Loves Africa
    <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Africa> (www.wikilovesafrica.net
    <http://www.wikilovesafrica.net/>) is an annual photography
    competition that takes place across Africa. It was designed
    to take back the visual narrative by re-imaging contemporary
    society and cultural heritage across Africa through the eyes
    of Africa’s photographers.

    Wiki Loves Africa images have collectively - since metrics
    began in 2016 - been viewed 1 billion times.

    Started in 2014, the 9 editions so far have resulted in the
    contribution of 102,068 images to Wikipedia's media library,
    Wikimedia Commons, by over 10,380 photographers from 55
    countries across the continent. The images have a life beyond
    the competition, with these images being placed in articles
    on Wikipedia, and thus being viewed by over 1 billion times
    since the impact began being monitored from 2016; with 25
    million views in May 2022 alone.

      * 2014 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2014>:
        /Cuisine/
      * 2015 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2015>:
        /Cultural Fashion and Adornment/
      * 2016 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2016>:
        /Music and Dance/
      * 2017 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2017>:
        /People at Work/
      * 2019 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2019>:
        /Play!/
      * 2020 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2020>:
        /Africa on the Move/
      * 2021 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2021>:
        /Health + Wellness/
      * 2022 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2022>:
        /Home + Habitat/

      * 2023 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2023> :
        /Climate and Weather/
      * *2024*/: /*???*


    Warm Regards
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


      Chers Wikimédiens,

    La recherche d'un thème pour le concours*Wiki Loves Africa
    2024* est toujours en cours.

    Veuillez cliquer sur le lien ci-dessous pour partager vos
    idées sur ce que vous pensez être le prochain thème de Wiki
    Loves Africa:

    WLA thème proposé pour 2024
    <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfW6Ld6EDJP7PZRON01jx8kiqFmobBX34xac0_kG60FTEr6dA/viewform?usp=pp_url>

    Wiki Loves Africa
    <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Africa>;(www.wikilovesafrica.net
    <http://www.wikilovesafrica.net/>) est un concours annuel de
    photographie qui se déroule dans toute l'Afrique. Il a été
    conçu pour reprendre le récit visuel en réimaginant la
    société contemporaine et le patrimoine culturel à travers
    l'Afrique à travers les yeux des photographes africains.

    Les images de Wiki Loves Africa ont collectivement - depuis
    le début des mesures en 2016 - été vues 1 milliard de fois.

    Démarrés en 2014, les 9 éditions à ce jour ont abouti à la
    contribution de 102 068 images à la médiathèque de Wikipédia,
    Wikimedia Commons, par plus de 10 380 photographes de 55 pays
    à travers le continent. Les images ont une vie au-delà du
    concours, puisqu'elles sont placées dans des articles de
    Wikipédia et ont donc été vues plus d'un milliard de fois
    depuis que l'impact a commencé à être surveillé à partir de
    2016 ; avec 25 millions de vues pour le seul mois de mai 2022.

      * 2014 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2014>:
        /Cuisine/
      * 2015 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2015>:
        /Mode et parure culturelle/
      * 2016 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2016>:
        /Musique et danse/
      * 2017 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2017>:
        /Les gens au travail/
      * 2019 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2019>:
        /Jouez!/
      * 2020 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2020>:
        /L'Afrique en mouvement/
      * 2021 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2021>:
        /Santé + Bien-être/
      * 2022 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2022>:
        /Home + Habitat/

      * 2023 WLA
        <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Africa_2023> :
        /Climat et météo/


    Très cordialement
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Hello, Gnangarra's idea of revisiting earlier themes is very good I think and I'm sure that we can have better-quality photos. Otherwise, If I would suggest a new theme I will suggest the following: -Education.-Dogs and Cats or animals/fauna in general.-Religion Also I have these themes suggested by ChatGPT: People and Portraits: Tell the stories of African people through captivating portrait photography, showcasing their daily lives, traditions, and personalities.

Everyday African Heroes: Showcase individuals or groups making a positive impact in their communities, whether through education, healthcare, or social initiatives.

Water and Africa: Showcase the significance of water in Africa, including lakes, rivers, waterfalls, and coastal areas.

ThanksYamen

Le mercredi 6 septembre 2023 à 06:53:27 UTC+2, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com a écrit :

Flo makes a very good point about themes and overlapping or conflicting purposes.  Is there a reason to find a new theme its 10 years since Wiki Loves Africa began why not revisit an earlier theme its not like technology has stood still, nor is the community the same people, and even the audience is changing as a new generation of contributors are discovering us for the first time.

Communities dont have to come up with something new every year, the aim is about making it appealing to a new audience On Tue, 5 Sept 2023 at 22:30, Florence Devouard fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:

Hello

I am going to comment on this one for I think it provides the opportunity to reflect on our global campaigns and collaborations-at-large.

It is an excellent theme obviously. But one I would oppose we choose. There are several reasons.

First, the initial reason why we decided to launch WLA in 2014. We had noticed that participation from the African continent at that time was terribly low. When awareness studies were made, it showed that the Wikimedia projects were yet very poorly known from the public (even the online connect public). We knew our first participants would be largely new to the wiki world. Our goal was to promote awareness of wikimedia through a regular, easy to grasp project, easy to participate drive. We also wanted a drive where anyone could participate regardless of whether there was a local team in their country or not. There were very few images from the african continent, so any theme would bring in content that would be an improvement. And choice of theme had to be a theme behind which a small team could cluster, regardless of political, religious etc. opinions. Our goal was not to simply "get images on Commons", but also to raise awareness on the continent, and to give the opportunity to small local clusters to start organizing something together and later become a usergroup, become integrated in the larger community etc.

This is why the themes we chose so far were purposefully as inclusive as possible, easy to understand, could be joined by anyone. I do not believe "Living Heritage" fits into that category so well. If you ask the standard person in the street what "living heritage" is... chance is you'll get a puzzled look.

9 years later, an additional layer of complexity is that more photography contests born (such as Wiki Loves Folklore) or more "larger approach drives" such as "Wiki Loves Living Heritage". It already took us a few years to "make all photo drives" fit in the calendar (eg, Wiki Loves Africa changed its implementation months three times to accomodate other photo contests). I do not think it would be helpful to overlap with the other contests focus. In particular when Wiki Loves Folklore is already overlapping a couple of weeks with Wiki Loves Africa in the calendar. - First it would bring confusion to participants (so... what's the difference between x and y ?) - Second, it could bring tensions between the organizers of the two drives, such as on communications, banners... (been there, done that...) - Third, local teams would probably NOT "do more" or "do better". They would implement activities that would be attributed to both drives. You would end up with pictures taggued with both categories. It already happens.

We would certainly "reach" some different people. Not all participants would be overlapping, nor activities. But would the overlapping and the tensions be worth the effort ? Would that be a good use of our collective time ? Would that be a good use of our shared funds ? I do not think so.

Which is why... we try... every year... to choose a theme that tries not to overlap too badly with the other photo contest themes. This is in particular true to anything related to "folklore and heritage"  (= Wiki Loves Folklore, Wiki Loves Heritage) and true to anything related to "awesome landscapes and nature" (=Wiki Loves Earth).

We gotta be smart, share the space-fund-energy-time, and collaborate when it makes sense to collaborate, but always keeping in mind to preserve or enhance the other great initiatives.

Flo

Le 05/09/2023 à 09:31, Gnangarra a écrit :

What about "Wiki Loves Africa's Living Heritage" On Tue, 5 Sept 2023 at 05:16, Wilson Oluoha wilson@wikiinafrica.org wrote:

Dear Wikimedians,

The search for a theme for the 2024 Wiki Loves Africa contest is still ongoing.  Please click the link below to share your thoughts on what you think the next Wiki Loves Africa theme should be: WLA 2024 Theme Suggestions Kindly recall that Wiki Loves Africa (www.wikilovesafrica.net) is an annual photography competition that takes place across Africa. It was designed to take back the visual narrative by re-imaging contemporary society and cultural heritage across Africa through the eyes of Africa’s photographers. Wiki Loves Africa images have collectively - since metrics began in 2016 - been viewed 1 billion times.

Started in 2014, the 9 editions so far have resulted in the contribution of 102,068 images to Wikipedia's media library, Wikimedia Commons, by over 10,380 photographers from 55 countries across the continent. The images have a life beyond the competition, with these images being placed in articles on Wikipedia, and thus being viewed by over 1 billion times since the impact began being monitored from 2016; with 25 million views in May 2022 alone.

- 2014 WLA: Cuisine - 2015 WLA: Cultural Fashion and Adornment - 2016 WLA: Music and Dance - 2017 WLA: People at Work - 2019 WLA: Play! - 2020 WLA: Africa on the Move - 2021 WLA: Health + Wellness - 2022 WLA: Home + Habitat

- 2023 WLA : Climate and Weather - 2024:  ???

Warm Regards ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Chers Wikimédiens,

La recherche d'un thème pour le concours Wiki Loves Africa 2024 est toujours en cours.

Veuillez cliquer sur le lien ci-dessous pour partager vos idées sur ce que vous pensez être le prochain thème de Wiki Loves Africa: WLA thème proposé pour 2024 Wiki Loves Africa;(www.wikilovesafrica.net) est un concours annuel de photographie qui se déroule dans toute l'Afrique. Il a été conçu pour reprendre le récit visuel en réimaginant la société contemporaine et le patrimoine culturel à travers l'Afrique à travers les yeux des photographes africains. Les images de Wiki Loves Africa ont collectivement - depuis le début des mesures en 2016 - été vues 1 milliard de fois.

Démarrés en 2014, les 9 éditions à ce jour ont abouti à la contribution de 102 068 images à la médiathèque de Wikipédia, Wikimedia Commons, par plus de 10 380 photographes de 55 pays à travers le continent. Les images ont une vie au-delà du concours, puisqu'elles sont placées dans des articles de Wikipédia et ont donc été vues plus d'un milliard de fois depuis que l'impact a commencé à être surveillé à partir de 2016 ; avec 25 millions de vues pour le seul mois de mai 2022.

- 2014 WLA: Cuisine - 2015 WLA: Mode et parure culturelle - 2016 WLA: Musique et danse - 2017 WLA: Les gens au travail - 2019 WLA: Jouez! - 2020 WLA: L'Afrique en mouvement - 2021 WLA: Santé + Bien-être - 2022 WLA: Home + Habitat

- 2023 WLA : Climat et météo

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