Hi all,
I've been too busy lately to reply earlier on the technical editor discussions, but to continue the thread forwarded below, it should indeed be the primary responsibility of peer review coordinators to arrange peer reviews https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group/Editorial_guidelines#Arranging_peer_review, but I do think a technical editor can offer to help out, at least in apparently overdue cases. I made a separate page for the role (here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group/Technical_editor), now with the following wording for the discussed task:
"Assisting in arranging peer reviews https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group/Editorial_guidelines#Arranging_peer_review, by regularly checking the potential upcoming articles, and offer assistance to peer review coordinators at least in articles with delayed progression. Such assistance may be in organizing lists of names, credentials and emails of potential peer reviewers."
I've also started a draft of a potential contract there: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group/Technical_editor.
One issue is the amount of compensation. Although it might be an idea to determine fixed amounts for specific tasks as mentioned in the October meeting https://docs.google.com/document/d/12zNLAyqzHUajBTW29NE2hs2mNbgY9CVnh386UWodI-k/edit#heading=h.fd727gvxjhb9, for now I think we have to apply an hourly rate, and focus on hiring someone who seems reliable in reporting the total time spent. At least initially, it's also important for the technical editor to document the time spent for different tasks. Even if it won't lead to a decision to put a price tag on each task, such detailed reports will help us decide what tasks the technical editor should do. As for the exact hourly amount, it varies worldwide, for example in US being $29 to $38 per hour [1] https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/editor-hourly-wages, and in India being about $4 per hour [2]. https://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Job=Editor/Salary I think we can start offering something closer to the latter. Since it is a non-profit organization, I think the position can still appeal to high income countries, and we could always increase it if we don't find any fitting candidate willing to do it for that salary. To have somewhere to start the discussion, I put $5 in the current contract draft. I appreciate suggestions for improvement to it.
Best regards,
Mikael
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:46 AM Youngstrom, Eric Arden eay@unc.edu wrote:
My suggestion would be to change it to "*organizing* lists of names, credentials and emails of potential peer reviewers for submissions" -- I agree that the editors are the main way of finding reviewers, but organizing the past reviewers and new ones into a database helps a huge amount.
Having a way of catching, organizing, and querying the database will make things work more efficiently, especially as the journals scale up.
All the best,
Eric
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Hi All,
In looking at the list of tasks, I found one that seems to be an outlier: Finding and preparing lists of names, credentials and emails of potential peer reviewers for submissions If the technical editor takes care of this, then what is it the rest of the board will do?
I personally don’t think this task fits here and should lie with the coordinating editors, as this might require area expertise.
Best,
Jackie
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On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Thomas Shafee thomas.shafee@gmail.com
wrote:
Finding and preparing lists of names, credentials and emails of potential peer reviewers for submissions
Thank you for your email (which I am not sure I should have received).
I recently expressed an interest in WikiJournal but, as I have no experience of the Journal, do not think I am suitable for an editorial position at this time.
Nevertheless, I am a scientifically-minded doctor of Medicine so, time permitting, I might be able to proof-read or help in other ways.
Best wishes, Peter
On 26/11/2019 02:43, Mikael Häggström wrote:
Hi all,
I've been too busy lately to reply earlier on the technical editor discussions, but to continue the thread forwarded below, it should indeed be the primary responsibility of peer review coordinators to arrange peer reviews [7], but I do think a technical editor can offer to help out, at least in apparently overdue cases. I made a separate page for the role (here [8]), now with the following wording for the discussed task:
"Assisting in arranging peer reviews [7], by regularly checking the potential upcoming articles, and offer assistance to peer review coordinators at least in articles with delayed progression. Such assistance may be in organizing lists of names, credentials and emails of potential peer reviewers."
I've also started a draft of a potential contract there: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group/Technical_editor [8].
One issue is the amount of compensation. Although it might be an idea to determine fixed amounts for specific tasks as mentioned in the October meeting [9], for now I think we have to apply an hourly rate, and focus on hiring someone who seems reliable in reporting the total time spent. At least initially, it's also important for the technical editor to document the time spent for different tasks. Even if it won't lead to a decision to put a price tag on each task, such detailed reports will help us decide what tasks the technical editor should do. As for the exact hourly amount, it varies worldwide, for example in US being $29 to $38 per hour [1] [10], and in India being about $4 per hour [2]. [11] I think we can start offering something closer to the latter. Since it is a non-profit organization, I think the position can still appeal to high income countries, and we could always increase it if we don't find any fitting candidate willing to do it for that salary. To have somewhere to start the discussion, I put $5 in the current contract draft. I appreciate suggestions for improvement to it.
Best regards,
Mikael
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:46 AM Youngstrom, Eric Arden eay@unc.edu wrote:
My suggestion would be to change it to "*organizing* lists of names, credentials and emails of potential peer reviewers for submissions" -- I agree that the editors are the main way of finding reviewers, but organizing the past reviewers and new ones into a database helps a huge amount.
Having a way of catching, organizing, and querying the database will make things work more efficiently, especially as the journals scale up.
All the best,
Eric
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- Re: technical editor hire (Thomas Shafee)
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Hi All,
In looking at the list of tasks, I found one that seems to be an outlier: Finding and preparing lists of names, credentials and emails of potential peer reviewers for submissions If the technical editor takes care of this, then what is it the rest of the board will do?
I personally don't think this task fits here and should lie with the coordinating editors, as this might require area expertise.
Best,
Jackie
Jackie Koerner, Ph.D. jackiekoerner.com [3]
On Oct 10, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Thomas Shafee thomas.shafee@gmail.com wrote:
Finding and preparing lists of names, credentials and emails of potential peer reviewers for submissions
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