Hi all WikiJournal participants,
I've now written a draft of an ethics statement to contain the main topics
from the Committee on Publication Ethics
<https://publicationethics.org/resources/guidelines>: WikiJournal of
Medicine/Draft of ethics statement
<https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_of_Medicine/Draft_of_ethics_sta…>
This was started as a statement for WikiJournal of Medicine, but it seems
best to have one common ethics statement for all WikiJournals. Do you agree
with this?
Also, additions and corrections are very welcome. In particular, there are
some headers of possible topics to add, but with yet no text. I suggest
that we remove all headers of empty sections in 2 weeks, so that we can
move forward and ratify the ethics statement.
I recommend that we continue the discussion in the wiki:
Talk:WikiJournal_User_Group#Ethics_statement
<https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Talk:WikiJournal_User_Group#Ethics_statement>
Best regards,
Mikael
Hello Charles,
I look forward to get to know about any updates in the Trademark
registration.
The mission our WikiJournal is "to publish scholarly works with no cost for
the authors, apply quality checks on submissions by expert peer review, and
make accepted works available on the Internet free of charge, in
perpetuity." [1] <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group>
wikijournal.org on the other hand is described as a "Free, independent,
international, multilingual online journal" but I don't know any particular
mission beyond that. However, Philip Krasilnik does not want to merge his
project into ours. I think he is not interested in having his articles peer
reviewed.
It is also worth mentioning that wikijournal.org only has one active editor
([Russian version]
<https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=tran…>,
[original link]
<https://ru.wikijournal.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%…>
, [English version] <https://en.wikijournal.org/wiki/Special:Statistics>),
presumably Philip himself.
Best regards,
Mikael
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Charles M. Roslof <croslof(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> Hi Mikael,
>
> Thank you for providing that additional information about wikijournal.org,
> and for removing the trademark registration from your grant application. I
> will look into the possibility of filing a trademark registration for
> WikiJournal.
>
> I would be interested to learn more about the missions and goals of the
> WikiJournal project and wikijournal.org—how they are similar and how they
> differ.
>
> Best,
>
> Charles M. Roslof
> Legal Counsel
> Wikimedia Foundation
> croslof(a)wikimedia.org
> (415) 839-6885
>
> NOTICE: This message might have confidential or legally privileged
> information in it. If you have received this message by accident, please
> delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the
> Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice
> to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff
> members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see
> our legal disclaimer
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Mikael Häggström <
> editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Charles M. Roslof and Woubzena Jifar,
>>
>> It is necessary to already obtain trademark registrations, because an
>> unrelated "WikiJournal" has already popped up, wikijournal.org, which
>> appeared about 2 years after our project was created. I have tried to
>> negotiate with the creator of that project (Philip Krasilnikov) about
>> transfer of that .org domain to us, without so far being able to reach an
>> agreement. It is possible that this name conflict will end up in legal
>> proceedings later, so we find it necessary to as soon as possible secure
>> our legal rights of the WikiJournal name, which is now in use in several
>> external scholarly indexes and thereby not possible to change at all
>> locations. It is also worth noting that Philip Krasilnikov made a rapid
>> grant application using the WikiJournal name, attempting to receive $15,000
>> USD from the Wikimedia Foundation: Grants:Project/Philip/WikiJour
>> nal.org/WikiJournal
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Philip/WikiJournal.org/WikiJ…>
>>
>> In any case, I have removed the trademark registration part from our
>> rapid grant application
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WikiJournal_2018>.
>> Also, the COPE membership part is removed because we can fund that
>> membership through 2018 from our last grant.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Mikael Haggstrom
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:46 PM, Charles M. Roslof <
>> croslof(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mikael,
>>>
>>> I've copied Woubzena Jifar, the Foundation's Rapid Grants Program
>>> Officer.
>>>
>>> Thank you for reaching out about this. If "WikiJournal" is to be
>>> registered as a trademark, then it should be held by the Wikimedia
>>> Foundation. The Foundation has the established processes and resources to
>>> protect Wikimedia trademarks, and having "WikiJournal" as part of the
>>> Wikimedia trademark portfolio would avoid issues of confusion or conflict
>>> with other Wikimedia marks, such as "Wikibooks". I would also want we at
>>> the Foundation to handle the registration, to ensure it is consistent with
>>> the registrations of the other marks.
>>>
>>> Registering a new trademark requires a commitment of resources beyond
>>> the initial filing fee. There may be opposition to the registration, which
>>> would require us to file responses, and we would need to have advice and
>>> support from outside experts through the registration process to ensure
>>> that everything is done properly. In addition, if it is necessary to
>>> register the mark in the United States then it may be necessary to register
>>> it in other countries as well.
>>>
>>> Given this, I'm not sure it is appropriate to seek registration of the
>>> "WikiJournal" mark at this time. I know that there is a proposal for
>>> WikiJournal to become its own sister project
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal>—if that proposal is
>>> accepted, then we would certainly want to proceed with obtaining trademark
>>> registrations for the "WikiJournal" wordmark and whatever logo is chosen
>>> for the project. I don't know that it is necessary to obtain registrations
>>> before then, unless (1) there is significant risk of unrelated things
>>> called "WikiJournal" popping up and causing confusion with the Wikimedia
>>> WikiJournals, or (2) the WikiJournals are getting a significant amount of
>>> high-profile public attention.
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to hear your additional thoughts and questions on this
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Charles M. Roslof
>>> Legal Counsel
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>> croslof(a)wikimedia.org
>>> (415) 839-6885
>>>
>>> NOTICE: This message might have confidential or legally privileged
>>> information in it. If you have received this message by accident, please
>>> delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the
>>> Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice
>>> to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff
>>> members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see
>>> our legal disclaimer
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Mikael Häggström <
>>> editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear legal team,
>>>>
>>>> The WikiJournal User Group
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group> is now a
>>>> registered non-profit organization in Sweden, and we are now applying
>>>> for funding for registering WikiJournal as a trademark in the United States.
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WikiJournal_2018>
>>>>
>>>> Is is all right that this trademark belongs to the WikiJournal User
>>>> Group organization, or do you require it to belong directly to the
>>>> Wikimedia Foundation?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mikael Häggström
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Hello everyone,
I received the forwarded response from the Wikimedia legal team. I intend
to reply as follows:
"Hello Charles,
It is necessary to already obtain trademark registrations, because an
unrelated "WikiJournal" has already popped up, wikijournal.org, which
appeared about 2 years after our project was created. I have tried to
negotiate with the creator of that project (Philip Krasilnikov) about
transfer of that .org domain to us, without so far being able to reach an
agreement. It is possible that this name conflict will end up in legal
proceedings later, so we find it necessary to as soon as possible secure
our legal rights of the WikiJournal name, which is now in use in several
external scholarly indexes and thereby not possible to change at all
locations."
In any case, I removed the trademark part of our rapid grant application,
since it needs to be done directly by Wikimedia Foundation. [edit diff]
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants%3AProject%2FRapid%2FWik…>
Best regards,
Mikael
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Charles M. Roslof <croslof(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [trademark] Trademark for WikiJournal
To: Mikael Häggström <editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org>
Cc: Trademark <trademarks(a)wikimedia.org>, Woubzena Jifar <
wjifar(a)wikimedia.org>
Hi Mikael,
I've copied Woubzena Jifar, the Foundation's Rapid Grants Program Officer.
Thank you for reaching out about this. If "WikiJournal" is to be registered
as a trademark, then it should be held by the Wikimedia Foundation. The
Foundation has the established processes and resources to protect Wikimedia
trademarks, and having "WikiJournal" as part of the Wikimedia trademark
portfolio would avoid issues of confusion or conflict with other Wikimedia
marks, such as "Wikibooks". I would also want we at the Foundation to
handle the registration, to ensure it is consistent with the registrations
of the other marks.
Registering a new trademark requires a commitment of resources beyond the
initial filing fee. There may be opposition to the registration, which
would require us to file responses, and we would need to have advice and
support from outside experts through the registration process to ensure
that everything is done properly. In addition, if it is necessary to
register the mark in the United States then it may be necessary to register
it in other countries as well.
Given this, I'm not sure it is appropriate to seek registration of the
"WikiJournal" mark at this time. I know that there is a proposal for
WikiJournal to become its own sister project
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal>—if that proposal is accepted,
then we would certainly want to proceed with obtaining trademark
registrations for the "WikiJournal" wordmark and whatever logo is chosen
for the project. I don't know that it is necessary to obtain registrations
before then, unless (1) there is significant risk of unrelated things
called "WikiJournal" popping up and causing confusion with the Wikimedia
WikiJournals, or (2) the WikiJournals are getting a significant amount of
high-profile public attention.
I'd be happy to hear your additional thoughts and questions on this matter.
Best,
Charles M. Roslof
Legal Counsel
Wikimedia Foundation
croslof(a)wikimedia.org
(415) 839-6885
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Mikael Häggström <
editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org> wrote:
> Dear legal team,
>
> The WikiJournal User Group
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group> is now a
> registered non-profit organization in Sweden, and we are now applying for
> funding for registering WikiJournal as a trademark in the United States.
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WikiJournal_2018>
>
> Is is all right that this trademark belongs to the WikiJournal User Group
> organization, or do you require it to belong directly to the Wikimedia
> Foundation?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mikael Häggström
>
Hi
I was wondering how to popularise WikiJournals and to expand their reach.
One way would be to identify probable niches and the respective
WikiProject. For example, WikiJournal of Social Sciences could be formed
and for that the community at WikiProject Sociology
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sociology> could be
invited by leaving a note on their talk page
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sociology>. As a
member of the WikiJournal Council, I could do that. Thereafter, we could
evaluate the level of enthusiasm and can proceed accordingly. Thomas has
done an excellent job by reorganising WikiJournal of Science and by
starting the WikiJournal of Humanities. Possibly it is time to reach out to
other prospective branches.
The editorial board members of WikiJournal of Mediccine have been
communicating and discussing amongst themselves through a closed Google
group. Similar board specific groups have evolved for WJS and WJH. But this
arrangement limits the scope of involvement of anybody who is not a part of
the editorial board of the respective WikiJournal. I think that a parallel
open group could be formed for each of the existing WikiJournals with all
the editorial board members as participants, but with the open scope of any
other enthusiast joining (as it happens in Wikipedia communities).
I was also eager to draw the involvement of eminent contributors who could
otherwise act as advisers for the journals. I would seek your involvement
in the discussion I have started at https://en.wikiversity.org/
wiki/Talk:WikiJournal_of_Science#Editorial_board_vs_Advisory_board
Thomas, if this emails is not reaching the members of WJS and WJH, I would
be glad if you could initiate the discussion in the respective boards.
Regards
Diptanshu
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Hi all,
Following a question at our grant application page
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:Project/Rapid/WikiJournal_2018>,
I've asked the legal team whether they will want the WikiJournal trademark
to be a property directly of Wikimedia Foundation.
Best regards,
Mikael
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mikael Häggström <editor.in.chief(a)wikijmed.org>
Date: Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 8:37 AM
Subject: Trademark for WikiJournal
To: trademarks(a)wikimedia.org
Dear legal team,
The WikiJournal User Group
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group> is now a
registered non-profit organization in Sweden, and we are now applying for
funding for registering WikiJournal as a trademark in the United States.
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/WikiJournal_2018>
Is is all right that this trademark belongs to the WikiJournal User Group
organization, or do you require it to belong directly to the Wikimedia
Foundation?
Best regards,
Mikael Häggström