A great teacher passed away today.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37522732/ns/sports-college_basketball/
Also a good piece in the NYT.
cs
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Clayton, thanks. One of the advantages of being old enough to be labeled an "anciano" is that we had a chance to see Wooden's teams in live action. Now moving from the sublime to the ridiculous, I think the group might enjoy reading this critical pan of a movie that opened yesterday--Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Undead, a vampire variation on the Hamlet story: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127351882
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A great teacher passed away today.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37522732/ns/sports-college_basketball/
Also a good piece in the NYT.
cs
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Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re-creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
Clayton Stromberger Outreach Coordinator UT Shakespeare at Winedale College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin www.shakespeare-winedale.org cell: 512-228-1055/ office: 512-471-4726
What excellent timing, Clayton. Oh, Peter Brook, oh oh oh. Love, Alice
From: Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:08:09 -0500 To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re-creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
Clayton Stromberger Outreach Coordinator UT Shakespeare at Winedale College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin www.shakespeare-winedale.org cell: 512-228-1055/ office: 512-471-4726
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That Peter Brook passage is just great.
Alice, I hope you and the gang are not agonizing overmuch over coming up with the perfect selection of scenes. My strong belief is that, with the folks we have here, any selection you all come up with will work. I believe that as a group the Committee (including Doc) will identify some great stuff for us to work on together, and I believe that the larger group of all of us is pretty great. (I know I am constantly excited and impressed with the folks we have here.)
--Mike
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.netwrote:
What excellent timing, Clayton. Oh, Peter Brook, oh oh oh. Love, Alice
From: Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:08:09 -0500 To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration
I
came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater,
you
can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the
play
inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the
reality
of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a
looseness,
an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict
form in
which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he
imposes
his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't
produce
a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's
performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a
logic,
such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was
originally
defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become
an
operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or
telling
a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A
deck
of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle
and
deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one
of
the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the
reality
of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has
total
identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done
by a
group of people searching for one thing only -- the re-creation of a
complete
miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a
basic
function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon --
hmm,
those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you
would
be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
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Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re-creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
Clayton Stromberger Outreach Coordinator UT Shakespeare at Winedale College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin www.shakespeare-winedale.org cell: 512-228-1055/ office: 512-471-4726
_______________________________________________ Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
(although I take exception to the phrase "little old ladies"...)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re- creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
Clayton Stromberger Outreach Coordinator UT Shakespeare at Winedale College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin www.shakespeare-winedale.org cell: 512-228-1055/ office: 512-471-4726
Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
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("hot, gifted ladies of a certain age" would have been better.)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
(although I take exception to the phrase "little old ladies"...)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re- creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
Clayton Stromberger Outreach Coordinator UT Shakespeare at Winedale College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin www.shakespeare-winedale.org cell: 512-228-1055/ office: 512-471-4726
Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
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Hey, I got that from Alice... I imagined all of them wearing their big straw hats and sipping lemonade out on the veranda, talking Shakespeare....
But hot, yes... fear not on that one!
c
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Suhler, Jayne wrote:
(although I take exception to the phrase "little old ladies"...)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re- creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
Clayton Stromberger Outreach Coordinator UT Shakespeare at Winedale College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin www.shakespeare-winedale.org cell: 512-228-1055/ office: 512-471-4726
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Good god, it's 40 degrees where I am.
From: Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:28:49 -0500 To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Hey, I got that from Alice... I imagined all of them wearing their big straw hats and sipping lemonade out on the veranda, talking Shakespeare....
But hot, yes... fear not on that one!
c
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Suhler, Jayne wrote:
(although I take exception to the phrase "little old ladies"...)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re- creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
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but it is 98 degrees here in Texas even now.... - I will do a little seminar on heat stroke in adults "of a certain age" and how to avoid it when we arrive for the week.
Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net 6/6/2010 4:29 PM >>>
Good god, it's 40 degrees where I am.
From: Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:28:49 -0500 To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Hey, I got that from Alice... I imagined all of them wearing their big straw hats and sipping lemonade out on the veranda, talking Shakespeare....
But hot, yes... fear not on that one!
c
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Suhler, Jayne wrote:
(although I take exception to the phrase "little old ladies"...)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re- creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
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Praise be ye gods. My no longer thin Texas blood definitely needs more advice, as your yourself, Dr Bruce, can attest from my first and I hope last ever hypoglycemic event mid-reunion 2000 performance.....
From: Bruce Meyer Bruce.Meyer@UTSouthwestern.edu Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:47:33 -0500 To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
but it is 98 degrees here in Texas even now....
- I will do a little seminar on heat stroke in adults "of a certain age" and
how to avoid it when we arrive for the week.
Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net 6/6/2010 4:29 PM >>>
Good god, it's 40 degrees where I am.
From: Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:28:49 -0500 To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Hey, I got that from Alice... I imagined all of them wearing their big straw hats and sipping lemonade out on the veranda, talking Shakespeare....
But hot, yes... fear not on that one!
c
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Suhler, Jayne wrote:
(although I take exception to the phrase "little old ladies"...)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re- creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
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we will be careful and caring with all constitutions from delicate to strong...
Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net 6/6/2010 8:42 PM >>>
Praise be ye gods. My no longer thin Texas blood definitely needs more advice, as your yourself, Dr Bruce, can attest from my first and I hope last ever hypoglycemic event mid-reunion 2000 performance.....
From: Bruce Meyer Bruce.Meyer@UTSouthwestern.edu Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:47:33 -0500 To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
but it is 98 degrees here in Texas even now....
- I will do a little seminar on heat stroke in adults "of a certain age" and
how to avoid it when we arrive for the week.
Alice Gordon alicegordon@earthlink.net 6/6/2010 4:29 PM >>>
Good god, it's 40 degrees where I am.
From: Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:28:49 -0500 To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Hey, I got that from Alice... I imagined all of them wearing their big straw hats and sipping lemonade out on the veranda, talking Shakespeare....
But hot, yes... fear not on that one!
c
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Suhler, Jayne wrote:
(although I take exception to the phrase "little old ladies"...)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re- creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
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Clay, Mike, Jayne,
Thank you!!
Mary
----- Original Message ---- From: "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu To: "weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org" weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sun, June 6, 2010 11:06:05 AM Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re-creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
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thanks clayton. you and peter really are a slice of inspiration!
stan, one of the L.O.L.O.W ---- weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have
complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater,
you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't
produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of
other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one
of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total
identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by
a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re-creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon --
hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you
would
be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
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sooo very true jayne.... xoxox stan ---- Suhler, Jayne jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
("hot, gifted ladies of a certain age" would have been better.)
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On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
(although I take exception to the phrase "little old ladies"...)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Suhler, Jayne" jsuhler@mail.smu.edu wrote:
Thank you, Clayton. I can only speak for myself (but I'll bet some of you would agree), that as an anciano I am much better equipped emotionally and intellectually to understand just how powerful and true this passage by Peter Brook is. Mike is right. Don't sweat the final scene list too much. Shakespeare in that barn - any line, any word, any scene - will be right, will work, will be perfect. Especially this time around. Jayne ________________________________________ From: weeklong-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [weeklong-l- bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stromberger [cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re- creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
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Hey young whippersnapper albeit brilliant......
"Little Old Ladies is long hand for COUGARS!!!"
I think all the input has been great.....the Peter Brook words amazingly inspiring and I agree with Jayne.... 'our play is preferred'......whatever we do, the dust and beams in that old barn is saturated in Shakespeare.
I look forward to our rehearsals, most obscene and courageous..... Love to all! Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Clay Strombergermailto:cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks for the creative struggle, Little Old Ladies of Winedale, we have complete faith in you -- and in the meantime, here's a bit of inspiration I came across today.
Peter Brook:
Everything Shakespeare wrote was open-ended.... In Shakespearean theater, you can turn the lines around. With Shakespeare, you can genuinely turn the play inside out. You can put the first scene last.... This is part of the reality of Shakespeare -- that, because it is like the real world, it has a looseness, an openness, which goes far beyond the vanity of strict form -- strict form in which the right word is stressed, as in Racine, for example, where he imposes his own, narrow, private world...
(Shakespeare) produces dynamic, very concentrated material; he doesn't produce a finished product. Nothing of Shakespeare's exists until it's performed....
A pack of cards was invented at a certain period of history. Millions of other things invented have fallen away, but a pack of card has such a logic, such a dead-right, concentrated exactness in the way each card was originally defined, that all through history playing with a deck of cards has become an operation in the present. And whether today you are playing poker or telling a fortune, you are not doing an old-fashioned, historical enterprise. A deck of cards becomes a brand-new vehicle the moment you start to cut, shuffle and deal.
A deck of cards has an infinite number of permutations, and yet every one of the permutations belongs to the reality of the deck, as well as to the reality of the people playing the game.
Shakespeare can be understood as a vast human deck of cards that has total identity, card for card, total concentration, but yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history.
Now, if you say what is the result of dealing out this deck, it is done by a group of people searching for one thing only -- the re-creation of a complete miniature world observed by the members of a larger world (this is a basic function of the theater) -- you can see that there is no deck like Shakespeare's. The end result of using that deck rightly is, in fact, a contemporary exercise....
(from "Conversations with Peter Brook, 1970-2000" by Margaret Croydon -- hmm, those dates look familiar....)
cs
On Jun 5, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Alice Gordon wrote:
Hi, everyone,
Choosing scenes is taking us longer than we realized it would. If you would be so kind as to keep staying tuned!
Thanks, Cheers, Alice for the Committee and Doc
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There is a rumor (can't divulge my sources) that an Ur-List exists but has not been approved for final publication by the Council of Nicea; I heard that 300 versions have been burnt thus far.
(Cheese-it, Old Lady Gordon is listening!)
May I take this moment while everyone is idling their motors in fumes of Brook and sportsfigures, the hotness and coolness, the hereness and nowness to announce the purposed creation of an Independent Studies program at the reunion? The IS program will consist of work on scenes of our whim carried out in whatever time not devoted to "The List" (which of course I love and worship whether it exists or not), and these few scenes, these happy few, are not necessarily for any of the publicized performances. But closed, experimental, in secret. ". . .yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history." Gnothing gnostic. Just idling my motor. Hail Constantine!
I am 100-percent behind every part of Robert's message that I understand.
--Mike
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com wrote:
There is a rumor (can't divulge my sources) that an Ur-List exists but has not been approved for final publication by the Council of Nicea; I heard that 300 versions have been burnt thus far.
(Cheese-it, Old Lady Gordon is listening!)
May I take this moment while everyone is idling their motors in fumes of Brook and sportsfigures, the hotness and coolness, the hereness and nowness to announce the purposed creation of an Independent Studies program at the reunion? The IS program will consist of work on scenes of our whim carried out in whatever time not devoted to "The List" (which of course I love and worship whether it exists or not), and these few scenes, these happy few, are not necessarily for any of the publicized performances. But closed, experimental, in secret. ". . .yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history." Gnothing gnostic. Just idling my motor. Hail Constantine!
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Thanks Mike. Watching hours of live feed from the BP spill cam has apparently taken it's toll on my sanity. Whoever said "Waste is a terrible thing to mind." was wiser than he knew. In no way are the deliberations of Doc & the 6 G's comparable to a 4th century Bishopric smoker. The influence of the latter has lasted a mere 1600 years, that of the former could well go beyond Labor Day.
Play. Is what Winedale does. And (sigh) I've discovered... Lasts.
And lovely Alice Gordon is not a mean hall monitor.
That is all.
-Jackson
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I am 100-percent behind every part of Robert's message that I understand.
--Mike
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com wrote:
There is a rumor (can't divulge my sources) that an Ur-List exists but has not been approved for final publication by the Council of Nicea; I heard that 300 versions have been burnt thus far.
(Cheese-it, Old Lady Gordon is listening!)
May I take this moment while everyone is idling their motors in fumes of Brook and sportsfigures, the hotness and coolness, the hereness and nowness to announce the purposed creation of an Independent Studies program at the reunion? The IS program will consist of work on scenes of our whim carried out in whatever time not devoted to "The List" (which of course I love and worship whether it exists or not), and these few scenes, these happy few, are not necessarily for any of the publicized performances. But closed, experimental, in secret. ". . .yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history." Gnothing gnostic. Just idling my motor. Hail Constantine!
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Alice Gordon is roaming the halls as we speak, and the other kids are leaping into their lockers like bugs into a Venus fly trap.
From: Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:07:57 -0400 To: mnemonic@gmail.com, weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] Update on scenes
Thanks Mike. Watching hours of live feed from the BP spill cam has apparently taken it's toll on my sanity. Whoever said "Waste is a terrible thing to mind." was wiser than he knew. In no way are the deliberations of Doc & the 6 G's comparable to a 4th century Bishopric smoker. The influence of the latter has lasted a mere 1600 years, that of the former could well go beyond Labor Day.
Play. Is what Winedale does. And (sigh) I've discovered... Lasts.
And lovely Alice Gordon is not a mean hall monitor.
That is all.
-Jackson
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I am 100-percent behind every part of Robert's message that I understand.
--Mike
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com wrote:
There is a rumor (can't divulge my sources) that an Ur-List exists but has not been approved for final publication by the Council of Nicea; I heard that 300 versions have been burnt thus far.
(Cheese-it, Old Lady Gordon is listening!)
May I take this moment while everyone is idling their motors in fumes of Brook and sportsfigures, the hotness and coolness, the hereness and nowness to announce the purposed creation of an Independent Studies program at the reunion? The IS program will consist of work on scenes of our whim carried out in whatever time not devoted to "The List" (which of course I love and worship whether it exists or not), and these few scenes, these happy few, are not necessarily for any of the publicized performances. But closed, experimental, in secret. ". . .yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history." Gnothing gnostic. Just idling my motor. Hail Constantine!
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Jackson,
Tried to write to you at the email rjax@netcom.com but I was rejected! Not only am I not good enough to play Kate, I can't even get your service to accept my email.....
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There is a rumor (can't divulge my sources) that an Ur-List exists but has not been approved for final publication by the Council of Nicea; I heard that 300 versions have been burnt thus far.
(Cheese-it, Old Lady Gordon is listening!)
May I take this moment while everyone is idling their motors in fumes of Brook and sportsfigures, the hotness and coolness, the hereness and nowness to announce the purposed creation of an Independent Studies program at the reunion? The IS program will consist of work on scenes of our whim carried out in whatever time not devoted to "The List" (which of course I love and worship whether it exists or not), and these few scenes, these happy few, are not necessarily for any of the publicized performances. But closed, experimental, in secret. ". . .yet can be shuffled and re-dealt in endless permutations in each place, in each context, in each period of history." Gnothing gnostic. Just idling my motor. Hail Constantine!
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