Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca...
I wonder what Mark Long is doing now.
--m
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca...
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the caption sez he's a book publisher
google: "mark long" "book publisher" - see what happens.
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I wonder what Mark Long is doing now.
--m
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca...
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I was hoping the Weeklong Search Engine would turn up more specific results than Google. The trouble with a name like "Mark Long" is that it's not "Mark Messerschmidt," if you know what I mean.
--m
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com wrote:
the caption sez he's a book publisher
google: "mark long" "book publisher" - see what happens.
(s'why i make the big bux)
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com *To:* weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:53 PM *Subject:* Re: [Weeklong-l] New York Times
I wonder what Mark Long is doing now.
--m
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca...
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What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
I mean that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps not. Lots of intense stories from that summer. Not a lot of photos of happy students at play, arms around each other as they walk back to the dorm. Dark moments. Lines not learned. Rampant insecurities and fears. Fire ant bites and stickers in bare feet. Picnic table collapses and goblets thrown in anger. A Benedick and Beatrice who couldn't stand each other, and didn't seem to care too much for their words at times either. Struggles for oxygen. But at some point in the subsequent years I realized that this experience was just as rich in its own ways as any of the glorious ones. Just a different kind of learning; and Mark clearly testifies to that. Sometimes falling on your face teaches you more than reaching the moon (or so Edgar keeps telling me).
Doc never gave up on any of us, not even on the Convict Guy (too long a story, you'll have to ask me one night on the porch), and wrote one of his most beautiful and poetic "program notes" in the midst of all the our gnashing and fumbling. I learned a lot then (and in '84 too, another tough summer) about one of the things he was always trying to get across to us: there is no "magic" just waiting to do all the work for you once you step into the Barn. Just hard work, and sometimes real suffering.
Mark really really struggled that summer, to the very end, and then his wife left him when he came back. A double-whammy life-changer, and it's wonderful to see this, especially this summer. I will track him down to say hey. Thanks Robert.
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Robert Jackson wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca... _______________________________________________ Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Clay Stromberger < cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
One of the things that surfaced when I met with Britt Block for coffee last weekend was that 1981, which for me was my worst, most traumatic summer at Winedale, was for Britt the best. And that in 1989, when Britt returned as Doc's assistant and I returned as (merely) an older student. Britt had a tough summer, and I had a lovely one. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if someone remembered 1990 as a peak experience.
By the way, Britt says a personal hi to all of us, and especially to Doc!
--Mike
Spot on, Mike. I remember several of the '90 students who came back in '91 telling me that summer, with a somewhat wistful air, "Yeah, last summer... I don't know... it was more.... INTENSE..." They missed it. It had really tested them. And it was the first full performance there of 1Henry IV, which was a special experience.
At times, I have to say, it was a "ring of fire" and I felt as if I were walking on coals. But people pay good money to do that, I've heard. And Bruce is right, every summer had its coal-walking moments. Those make the best stories to tell years later.
Human beings can be difficult. O, what fools we mortals be.
Madge was there, her first summer, she can tell you more some evening...
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Mike Godwin wrote:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu wrote: What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
One of the things that surfaced when I met with Britt Block for coffee last weekend was that 1981, which for me was my worst, most traumatic summer at Winedale, was for Britt the best. And that in 1989, when Britt returned as Doc's assistant and I returned as (merely) an older student. Britt had a tough summer, and I had a lovely one. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if someone remembered 1990 as a peak experience.
By the way, Britt says a personal hi to all of us, and especially to Doc!
--Mike
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Clay Stromberger < cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
Madge was there, her first summer, she can tell you more some evening...
I was with Madge her first summer (1989). But I feel certain she has plenty to tell me even about that summer that I don't know.
--Mike
Hell, in '71, there was cannibalism! Well, not really, but we, well, we got pretty hungry sometimes and it was, you know, a long time to supper I remember once, and all we had was bread and mush, and gitlins, everyday, gitlins, okay, actually, we ate pretty good....but still, it got damn scary let me tell you. The sun was an angry god that year, my friends. Sticker burrs? - Ha! - I laugh at sticker burrs! Just look at our program cover from that year (attached) that I found in my old beat up complete works: Dark. . . Edgy. . . kind of a satanic clown?...maybe a little bit? hmmm, seemed creepier at the time.....Anyway, what did we know? . . just a bunch a crazy kids and a dream.. . .
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Spot on, Mike. I remember several of the '90 students who came back in '91 telling me that summer, with a somewhat wistful air, "Yeah, last summer... I don't know... it was more.... INTENSE..." They missed it. It had really tested them. And it was the first full performance there of 1Henry IV, which was a special experience.
At times, I have to say, it was a "ring of fire" and I felt as if I were walking on coals. But people pay good money to do that, I've heard. And Bruce is right, every summer had its coal-walking moments. Those make the best stories to tell years later.
Human beings can be difficult. O, what fools we mortals be.
Madge was there, her first summer, she can tell you more some evening...
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Mike Godwin wrote:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu wrote:
What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
One of the things that surfaced when I met with Britt Block for coffee last weekend was that 1981, which for me was my worst, most traumatic summer at Winedale, was for Britt the best. And that in 1989, when Britt returned as Doc's assistant and I returned as (merely) an older student. Britt had a tough summer, and I had a lovely one. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if someone remembered 1990 as a peak experience.
By the way, Britt says a personal hi to all of us, and especially to Doc!
--Mike
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lemme just say that 1979 had some genuinely horrific moments - that was the summer of the failed experiment in switching roles in the middle of the summer. I believe that EVERY summer had/has major/minor traumas, struggles with lines, people who "just do not get it", conflict (internal and external), gnashing of teeth, high anxiety, internal palace intrigue and sometimes ugly politics. It just depends on your viewpoint. Based on discussions with Bekah, the camp program goes through much of the same. That is the beauty of the experience - everyone has their own: some magical, some middling, some just faded away - some of us had very special companions on the journey some or all of the time, and some did not. That is what can be special about the reunion week - it is a journey of its own where we get to go along with some of our favorite companions and to get (if we are lucky) some new companions on the way....
Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu 7/29/2010 12:58 PM >>>
What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
I mean that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps not. Lots of intense stories from that summer. Not a lot of photos of happy students at play, arms around each other as they walk back to the dorm. Dark moments. Lines not learned. Rampant insecurities and fears. Fire ant bites and stickers in bare feet. Picnic table collapses and goblets thrown in anger. A Benedick and Beatrice who couldn't stand each other, and didn't seem to care too much for their words at times either. Struggles for oxygen. But at some point in the subsequent years I realized that this experience was just as rich in its own ways as any of the glorious ones. Just a different kind of learning; and Mark clearly testifies to that. Sometimes falling on your face teaches you more than reaching the moon (or so Edgar keeps telling me).
Doc never gave up on any of us, not even on the Convict Guy (too long a story, you'll have to ask me one night on the porch), and wrote one of his most beautiful and poetic "program notes" in the midst of all the our gnashing and fumbling. I learned a lot then (and in '84 too, another tough summer) about one of the things he was always trying to get across to us: there is no "magic" just waiting to do all the work for you once you step into the Barn. Just hard work, and sometimes real suffering.
Mark really really struggled that summer, to the very end, and then his wife left him when he came back. A double-whammy life-changer, and it's wonderful to see this, especially this summer. I will track him down to say hey. Thanks Robert.
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Robert Jackson wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca... _______________________________________________ Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
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Ha! I read that slideshow blurb as positive! Made me feel proud! It sounded dead-on for a summer at Winedale--middle of nowhere, words words words, work work work, etc. That's all part and parcel of the wonder and possibility, the building of community, etc. I've enjoyed reading your responses--and loved seeing Jon Watson's image in the photo, peering out from upstage Doc-right!
The thing is, we LIKE problematic. That's why we love Shakespeare. Anything else is just boring.
xoxo, Susan-who-bought-her-stage-sandals-today (they're perfect for both Paulina and Dromio E.--mission accomplished)
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Bruce Meyer <Bruce.Meyer@utsouthwestern.edu
wrote:
lemme just say that 1979 had some genuinely horrific moments - that was the summer of the failed experiment in switching roles in the middle of the summer. I believe that EVERY summer had/has major/minor traumas, struggles with lines, people who "just do not get it", conflict (internal and external), gnashing of teeth, high anxiety, internal palace intrigue and sometimes ugly politics. It just depends on your viewpoint. Based on discussions with Bekah, the camp program goes through much of the same. That is the beauty of the experience - everyone has their own: some magical, some middling, some just faded away - some of us had very special companions on the journey some or all of the time, and some did not. That is what can be special about the reunion week - it is a journey of its own where we get to go along with some of our favorite companions and to get (if we are lucky) some new companions on the way....
Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu 7/29/2010 12:58 PM >>>
What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
I mean that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps not. Lots of intense stories from that summer. Not a lot of photos of happy students at play, arms around each other as they walk back to the dorm. Dark moments. Lines not learned. Rampant insecurities and fears. Fire ant bites and stickers in bare feet. Picnic table collapses and goblets thrown in anger. A Benedick and Beatrice who couldn't stand each other, and didn't seem to care too much for their words at times either. Struggles for oxygen. But at some point in the subsequent years I realized that this experience was just as rich in its own ways as any of the glorious ones. Just a different kind of learning; and Mark clearly testifies to that. Sometimes falling on your face teaches you more than reaching the moon (or so Edgar keeps telling me).
Doc never gave up on any of us, not even on the Convict Guy (too long a story, you'll have to ask me one night on the porch), and wrote one of his most beautiful and poetic "program notes" in the midst of all the our gnashing and fumbling. I learned a lot then (and in '84 too, another tough summer) about one of the things he was always trying to get across to us: there is no "magic" just waiting to do all the work for you once you step into the Barn. Just hard work, and sometimes real suffering.
Mark really really struggled that summer, to the very end, and then his wife left him when he came back. A double-whammy life-changer, and it's wonderful to see this, especially this summer. I will track him down to say hey. Thanks Robert.
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Robert Jackson wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca...
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On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:38 PM, susan todd skippytodd@gmail.com wrote:
Susan-who-bought-her-stage-sandals-today (they're perfect for both Paulina and Dromio E.--mission accomplished)
Wore my new sandals home yesterday, walking on the San Francisco streets. Guess what -- sandals are COLD in July in San Francisco.
--m
There are lions in the arena, once you enter it. In Camp Shakespeare there are, as you might expect, kittens. Depends on how you cuddle.
Doc
On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Bruce Meyer wrote
lemme just say that 1979 had some genuinely horrific moments - that was the summer of the failed experiment in switching roles in the middle of the summer. I believe that EVERY summer had/has major/minor traumas, struggles with lines, people who "just do not get it", conflict (internal and external), gnashing of teeth, high anxiety, internal palace intrigue and sometimes ugly politics. It just depends on your viewpoint. Based on discussions with Bekah, the camp program goes through much of the same. That is the beauty of the experience - everyone has their own: some magical, some middling, some just faded away - some of us had very special companions on the journey some or all of the time, and some did not. That is what can be special about the reunion week - it is a journey of its own where we get to go along with some of our favorite companions and to get (if we are lucky) some new companions on the way....
Clay Stromberger cstromberger@mail.utexas.edu 7/29/2010 12:58 PM >>>
What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
I mean that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps not. Lots of intense stories from that summer. Not a lot of photos of happy students at play, arms around each other as they walk back to the dorm. Dark moments. Lines not learned. Rampant insecurities and fears. Fire ant bites and stickers in bare feet. Picnic table collapses and goblets thrown in anger. A Benedick and Beatrice who couldn't stand each other, and didn't seem to care too much for their words at times either. Struggles for oxygen. But at some point in the subsequent years I realized that this experience was just as rich in its own ways as any of the glorious ones. Just a different kind of learning; and Mark clearly testifies to that. Sometimes falling on your face teaches you more than reaching the moon (or so Edgar keeps telling me).
Doc never gave up on any of us, not even on the Convict Guy (too long a story, you'll have to ask me one night on the porch), and wrote one of his most beautiful and poetic "program notes" in the midst of all the our gnashing and fumbling. I learned a lot then (and in '84 too, another tough summer) about one of the things he was always trying to get across to us: there is no "magic" just waiting to do all the work for you once you step into the Barn. Just hard work, and sometimes real suffering.
Mark really really struggled that summer, to the very end, and then his wife left him when he came back. A double-whammy life-changer, and it's wonderful to see this, especially this summer. I will track him down to say hey. Thanks Robert.
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Robert Jackson wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca... _______________________________________________ Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
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I find it very interesting that everyone (Mark included) assembled at some place (Mark has forgotten where) for sometime (again Mark) to undergo a "problematic experience" that was eventually valuable. No director, no stage manager. Hmmm. Very mysterious indeed. Three witches on a heath? Tom 'o Bedlam? "Come hither, come hither....." Someone should write Mark about "the real story."
The Shadow knows all.
Lamont Cranston
On Jul 29, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Clay Stromberger wrote:
What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
I mean that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps not. Lots of intense stories from that summer. Not a lot of photos of happy students at play, arms around each other as they walk back to the dorm. Dark moments. Lines not learned. Rampant insecurities and fears. Fire ant bites and stickers in bare feet. Picnic table collapses and goblets thrown in anger. A Benedick and Beatrice who couldn't stand each other, and didn't seem to care too much for their words at times either. Struggles for oxygen. But at some point in the subsequent years I realized that this experience was just as rich in its own ways as any of the glorious ones. Just a different kind of learning; and Mark clearly testifies to that. Sometimes falling on your face teaches you more than reaching the moon (or so Edgar keeps telling me).
Doc never gave up on any of us, not even on the Convict Guy (too long a story, you'll have to ask me one night on the porch), and wrote one of his most beautiful and poetic "program notes" in the midst of all the our gnashing and fumbling. I learned a lot then (and in '84 too, another tough summer) about one of the things he was always trying to get across to us: there is no "magic" just waiting to do all the work for you once you step into the Barn. Just hard work, and sometimes real suffering.
Mark really really struggled that summer, to the very end, and then his wife left him when he came back. A double-whammy life-changer, and it's wonderful to see this, especially this summer. I will track him down to say hey. Thanks Robert.
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Robert Jackson wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca... _______________________________________________ Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
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Doc,
Don't be surprised if there are a lot of applicants next year saying they want that "Outward Bound" kind of theater experience: "Left out in the wild all alone with just a pen knife and a Complete Works!"
Sounds damn exotic! Or, at least the idea for a reality show.
Then of course, Mark (I don't know the guy) could have been heavily edited. The Times is famous for that.
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I find it very interesting that everyone (Mark included) assembled at some place (Mark has forgotten where) for sometime (again Mark) to undergo a "problematic experience" that was eventually valuable. No director, no stage manager. Hmmm. Very mysterious indeed. Three witches on a heath? Tom 'o Bedlam? "Come hither, come hither....." Someone should write Mark about "the real story."
The Shadow knows all.
Lamont Cranston
On Jul 29, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Clay Stromberger wrote:
What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
I mean that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps not. Lots of intense stories from that summer. Not a lot of photos of happy students at play, arms around each other as they walk back to the dorm. Dark moments. Lines not learned. Rampant insecurities and fears. Fire ant bites and stickers in bare feet. Picnic table collapses and goblets thrown in anger. A Benedick and Beatrice who couldn't stand each other, and didn't seem to care too much for their words at times either. Struggles for oxygen. But at some point in the subsequent years I realized that this experience was just as rich in its own ways as any of the glorious ones. Just a different kind of learning; and Mark clearly testifies to that. Sometimes falling on your face teaches you more than reaching the moon (or so Edgar keeps telling me).
Doc never gave up on any of us, not even on the Convict Guy (too long a story, you'll have to ask me one night on the porch), and wrote one of his most beautiful and poetic "program notes" in the midst of all the our gnashing and fumbling. I learned a lot then (and in '84 too, another tough summer) about one of the things he was always trying to get across to us: there is no "magic" just waiting to do all the work for you once you step into the Barn. Just hard work, and sometimes real suffering.
Mark really really struggled that summer, to the very end, and then his wife left him when he came back. A double-whammy life-changer, and it's wonderful to see this, especially this summer. I will track him down to say hey. Thanks Robert.
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Robert Jackson wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca... _______________________________________________ Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
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It is absolutely certain Long's comments were heavily edited -- not just because it's the Times, but because this was primarily a slide show with captions rather than an article.
(Disclosure: Me am former journalist who deal with Times a lot.)
--m
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com wrote:
Doc,
Don't be surprised if there are a lot of applicants next year saying they want that "Outward Bound" kind of theater experience: "Left out in the wild all alone with just a pen knife and a Complete Works!"
Sounds damn exotic! Or, at least the idea for a reality show.
Then of course, Mark (I don't know the guy) could have been heavily edited. The Times is famous for that.
-Jackson
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I find it very interesting that everyone (Mark included) assembled at some place (Mark has forgotten where) for sometime (again Mark) to undergo a "problematic experience" that was eventually valuable. No director, no stage manager. Hmmm. Very mysterious indeed. Three witches on a heath? Tom 'o Bedlam? "Come hither, come hither....." Someone should write Mark about "the real story."
The Shadow knows all.
Lamont Cranston
On Jul 29, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Clay Stromberger wrote:
What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
I mean that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps not. Lots of intense stories from that summer. Not a lot of photos of happy students at play, arms around each other as they walk back to the dorm. Dark moments. Lines not learned. Rampant insecurities and fears. Fire ant bites and stickers in bare feet. Picnic table collapses and goblets thrown in anger. A Benedick and Beatrice who couldn't stand each other, and didn't seem to care too much for their words at times either. Struggles for oxygen. But at some point in the subsequent years I realized that this experience was just as rich in its own ways as any of the glorious ones. Just a different kind of learning; and Mark clearly testifies to that. Sometimes falling on your face teaches you more than reaching the moon (or so Edgar keeps telling me).
Doc never gave up on any of us, not even on the Convict Guy (too long a story, you'll have to ask me one night on the porch), and wrote one of his most beautiful and poetic "program notes" in the midst of all the our gnashing and fumbling. I learned a lot then (and in '84 too, another tough summer) about one of the things he was always trying to get across to us: there is no "magic" just waiting to do all the work for you once you step into the Barn. Just hard work, and sometimes real suffering.
Mark really really struggled that summer, to the very end, and then his wife left him when he came back. A double-whammy life-changer, and it's wonderful to see this, especially this summer. I will track him down to say hey. Thanks Robert.
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Robert Jackson wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
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No, I hadn¹t seen it either.
That class was a VERY interesting one, on all levels..... A bunch of people you will soon meet were there for the reunion class performance of a Comedy of Errors, too.
A
From: Robert Jackson rjax@netcom.com Reply-To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:20:41 -0400 To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Weeklong-l] New York Times
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca mp-slideshow-24.html
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Creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek, quoth the door! ----- Original Message ----- From: James Ayresmailto:jayres@cvctx.com To: weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Weeklong-l] New York Times
I find it very interesting that everyone (Mark included) assembled at some place (Mark has forgotten where) for sometime (again Mark) to undergo a "problematic experience" that was eventually valuable. No director, no stage manager. Hmmm. Very mysterious indeed. Three witches on a heath? Tom 'o Bedlam? "Come hither, come hither....." Someone should write Mark about "the real story."
The Shadow knows all.
Lamont Cranston
On Jul 29, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Clay Stromberger wrote:
What thuh...?
I was Doc's assistant that summer!
In the great imaginary competition that was going on a while back on these airwaves for Best Summer Ever, I thought about claiming a special category of award for this summer: Worst Summer Ever. None of you, I believe, can claim that title -- so there!
I mean that somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps not. Lots of intense stories from that summer. Not a lot of photos of happy students at play, arms around each other as they walk back to the dorm. Dark moments. Lines not learned. Rampant insecurities and fears. Fire ant bites and stickers in bare feet. Picnic table collapses and goblets thrown in anger. A Benedick and Beatrice who couldn't stand each other, and didn't seem to care too much for their words at times either. Struggles for oxygen. But at some point in the subsequent years I realized that this experience was just as rich in its own ways as any of the glorious ones. Just a different kind of learning; and Mark clearly testifies to that. Sometimes falling on your face teaches you more than reaching the moon (or so Edgar keeps telling me).
Doc never gave up on any of us, not even on the Convict Guy (too long a story, you'll have to ask me one night on the porch), and wrote one of his most beautiful and poetic "program notes" in the midst of all the our gnashing and fumbling. I learned a lot then (and in '84 too, another tough summer) about one of the things he was always trying to get across to us: there is no "magic" just waiting to do all the work for you once you step into the Barn. Just hard work, and sometimes real suffering.
Mark really really struggled that summer, to the very end, and then his wife left him when he came back. A double-whammy life-changer, and it's wonderful to see this, especially this summer. I will track him down to say hey. Thanks Robert.
cs
On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Robert Jackson wrote:
Am I the last one to see this?
Winedale is #24 (..."a very problematic experience")
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheaterca...http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/07/22/theater/20100723-summertheatercamp-slideshow-24.html _______________________________________________ Weeklong-l mailing list Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:Weeklong-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/weeklong-l
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