From the top of my head, about 23 Million people from Germany use the

This is a fascinating area and I agree with Theo that making meaningful comparisons is difficult. Here is an interesting way to look at a comparison between Germany and India.  As I understand it, the top 80 million people in India have about the same amount of income/wealth as the Germans (of whom there are about 80 million).  It's just that in India there more than a billion more people beyond that who live on a lot less. While such comparisons are interesting and might be useful in terms of at least some internal motivations, I think there's an emotional risk, since issues around money can be so emotional. Still, if we're going to do them, because they are fun and interesting, one other factor to include would be per capita readership.  I suspect that most of the difference between Germany and the US in terms of donation levels can be explained by the higher per capita readership of Wikipedia in German. --Jimbo _______________________________________________ Treasurers mailing list Treasurers(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/treasurers

To cite the comScore stats I sent around a week ago, they estimate the following for January: - in Germany, 53% of internet users read our sites (27 million people) on average 5.8 times a month. - in India, 36% of internet users read our sites (17 million people) on average 3.7 times a month. That suggests total internet users are only slightly higher in Germany (27/.53 or 51 million people) than in India (17/.36 or 47 million people).  Interesting that a totally different data source backs up Jimmy's offhand idea that raw data for wealth (or internet usage in this case) are similar between Germany and India. NB -- comScore is trying to make some almost impossibly difficult estimates here, but they're the only ones who really try to do for the entire internet and across multiple countries.  See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Stu/comScore_data_on_Wikimedia for a discussion of strengths/weaknesses. -s On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Pavel Richter wrote: From the top of my head, about 23 Million people from Germany use the Wikimedia sites every months, so a little more than 1/4 of all Germans. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Pavel Richter Vorstand Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tel.: +49 - 30 - 219 158 260 Twitter: @pavel 2012/3/5 Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)wikia-inc.com>om>: This is a fascinating area and I agree with Theo that making meaningful comparisons is difficult. Here is an interesting way to look at a comparison between Germany and India.  As I understand it, the top 80 million people in India have about the same amount of income/wealth as the Germans (of whom there are about 80 million).  It's just that in India there more than a billion more people beyond that who live on a lot less. While such comparisons are interesting and might be useful in terms of at least some internal motivations, I think there's an emotional risk, since issues around money can be so emotional. Still, if we're going to do them, because they are fun and interesting, one other factor to include would be per capita readership.  I suspect that most of the difference between Germany and the US in terms of donation levels can be explained by the higher per capita readership of Wikipedia in German. --Jimbo _______________________________________________ Treasurers mailing list Treasurers(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/treasurers _______________________________________________ Treasurers mailing list Treasurers(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/treasurers _______________________________________________ Treasurers mailing list Treasurers(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/treasurers