Hi all,
on my talk page, [[User:Pathoschild]] raised the idea of allowing OpenID authentication to operate toolserver tools that currently rely on TUSC. While I'd rather go for browserID [1] (not mutually exclusive), it raised the point of which authentication is "good enough" for using some toolserver tools, especially those that edit or upload on Wiki(m|p)edia projects.
Would these non-TUSC accounts need to be linked to Wiki(m|p)edia user names? If so, how would this be done? If Wiki(m|p)edia were to provide openID/browserID authentication, it would be a non-issue, but as it stands, this would need to be done on the toolserver in some form, which would most likely be more cumbersome than the current TUSC account creation.
Ideas?
Magnus
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi all,
on my talk page, [[User:Pathoschild]] raised the idea of allowing OpenID authentication to operate toolserver tools that currently rely on TUSC. While I'd rather go for browserID [1] (not mutually exclusive), it raised the point of which authentication is "good enough" for using some toolserver tools, especially those that edit or upload on Wiki(m|p)edia projects.
Would these non-TUSC accounts need to be linked to Wiki(m|p)edia user names? If so, how would this be done? If Wiki(m|p)edia were to provide openID/browserID authentication, it would be a non-issue, but as it stands, this would need to be done on the toolserver in some form, which would most likely be more cumbersome than the current TUSC account creation.
Ideas?
Magnus
Well, Wikimedia should become OpenID/OAuth provider for that.
--vvv
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Victor Vasiliev vasilvv@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi all,
on my talk page, [[User:Pathoschild]] raised the idea of allowing OpenID authentication to operate toolserver tools that currently rely on TUSC. While I'd rather go for browserID [1] (not mutually exclusive), it raised the point of which authentication is "good enough" for using some toolserver tools, especially those that edit or upload on Wiki(m|p)edia projects.
Would these non-TUSC accounts need to be linked to Wiki(m|p)edia user names? If so, how would this be done? If Wiki(m|p)edia were to provide openID/browserID authentication, it would be a non-issue, but as it stands, this would need to be done on the toolserver in some form, which would most likely be more cumbersome than the current TUSC account creation.
Ideas?
Magnus
Well, Wikimedia should become OpenID/OAuth provider for that.
So, no change before 2020 then? ;-)
Am 09.02.2012 14:08, schrieb Victor Vasiliev:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi all,
on my talk page, [[User:Pathoschild]] raised the idea of allowing OpenID authentication to operate toolserver tools that currently rely on TUSC. While I'd rather go for browserID [1] (not mutually exclusive), it raised the point of which authentication is "good enough" for using some toolserver tools, especially those that edit or upload on Wiki(m|p)edia projects.
Would these non-TUSC accounts need to be linked to Wiki(m|p)edia user names? If so, how would this be done? If Wiki(m|p)edia were to provide openID/browserID authentication, it would be a non-issue, but as it stands, this would need to be done on the toolserver in some form, which would most likely be more cumbersome than the current TUSC account creation.
Ideas?
Magnus
Well, Wikimedia should become OpenID/OAuth provider for that.
--vvv
We had a talk on maps-l[1] to allow Wikipedians to edit easily OpenStreetMap. So Wikimedia as OpenID/OAuth provider would be really nice.
Greetings Tim
[1]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2012-January/001113.html
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 06:37, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
on my talk page, [[User:Pathoschild]] raised the idea of allowing OpenID authentication to operate toolserver tools that currently rely on TUSC. While I'd rather go for browserID [1] (not mutually exclusive), it raised the point of which authentication is "good enough" for using some toolserver tools, especially those that edit or upload on Wiki(m|p)edia projects.
Would these non-TUSC accounts need to be linked to Wiki(m|p)edia user names? If so, how would this be done?
Hi Magnus,
My idea is to extend your TUSC tool. The user would log in with OpenID (or browserID), and associate this login with their Wikimedia account the same way TUSC already does (e.g., the user makes an edit with a given token).
Once that is done, we could provide a nice API for other Toolserver scripts to use. For example: <?php $user = new ToolserverAuthentication()->getUser('Pathoschild'); // get a specific user by their on-wiki name (e.g., for checking opt-in) $user = new ToolserverAuthentication()->getUser(); // get the current user (from session / cookies)
$user->hasWikiAccount(); // whether the user has associated their Toolserver account with an on-wiki global account $user->getWikiAccount(); // the name of their on-wiki global account $user->getGlobalGroups(); // an array of their on-wiki global groups $user->getPreference('opt-in', 'some-tool-name'); // maybe? ?>
This would make it very easy for tools to require authentication or opt-in, allow user preferences, or provide different features depending on the account or roles (e.g., a non-steward user might not want to see their results filled with links to steward-only pages).
-- Yours cordially, Jesse (Pathoschild)
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