+1. Data replication aside, a number of projects depend quite heavily on the tools hosted on the toolserver. If we won't be able to complete a transition to labs until 2014, *someone* needs to help keep the Toolserver supported until then - if WMDE cannot, WMF should supply the costs needed to maintain what is, at the end of the day, one of their servers. DaB. also needs support with this, as he's been forced to be the public face of the degrading server, and subjected to the ire of all of us as a result (which I have participated in, and apologize for, DaB. I think we all know you and Nosy are doing the best you can under the circumstances).

Could the WMF and WMDE please collaborate to work out a plan to keep the toolserver running as best as it can until labs is fully prepared to take over?

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Sent from my Windows Phone From: Merlissimo Sent: 9/25/2012 16:08 To: Wikimedia Toolserver Subject: Re: [Toolserver-l] Future of the toolserver Am 25.09.2012 20:48, schrieb Erik Moeller:

Toolserver is in fact hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation today, in our Amsterdam data-center. [..] We also maintain the database replication on our end which enables tools to function.

I don't know all internal systems, but i think by maintaining you mean: grant access to mysql binlogs, traffic costs and sometimes creating a dump.

Why can WMF not administrate the hole database replication servers for toolserver users in short-term if WMDE should not spend money on this anymore? Setting up new replication servers at production system is done quite often. Adding views for hiding private data and adding access control based on toolserver ldap should be possible. The rest of the toolserver infrastructure won't be touched by this change.

Currently the replication of database cluster of s3/s6/s7 (all on server hyacinth) is lagging for more than an hour, performance is very low and complex queries are taking 10 times longer than normal, so that some of my queries can not finish within maximum allowed runtime (which brakes some of my tools since about five days). To solve this problem new hardware is need. I as toolserver user don't care if support comes from WMDE or WMF as long as this problem is fixed. I am the one with the oversized user talk page because other authors asked me why my tools are not working.

Merlissimo

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