In December I wrote a cron job on the German toolserver, to collect statistics on external links. It works fine, but to be useful I must collect data over time, so I made a cron job to run each Monday morning.
While my attention was elsewhere, believing that this was running, it turns out the 256 Mbyte quota (!) made all my files 0 bytes in length for all of January. I have now requested and gotten an increased quota, but 6 weeks of data have been lost. And I must devote time to check my quota every week or two.
The /home disk is 600 GB of which 88 GB is free. That's not per user, but for all users together. It should come as a surprise to most people who donate money to the Wikimedia Foundation, that all of its volunteer developers have to share a disk the size of what is found in any laptop. According to an IRC discussion, some new disks that were planned to arrive in mid January have not yet been delivered. I have no idea what amount of disk has been ordered, or whether the quota system will be kept. I get the impression that this doesn't really matter to anybody.
This is the development system for the world's 6th most visited website in 2012. It quite doesn't live up to my expectations. It feels more like some hobby project in 2002. I'm a great fan of hobby projects, but with the current budget of WMDE and WMF, I thought we would have reached a higher ambition level by now.
Hello, At Wednesday 08 February 2012 15:16:26 DaB. wrote:
According to an IRC discussion, some new disks that were planned to arrive in mid January have not yet been delivered.
just a small correction here: I never said that we wait for discs, but for a delivery. The discs are already there, but there are not for the userland- servers, but for the database-servers (some of them would dream of 88G free space left). There are no plans at the moment to extend the space for /home.
And please don't compare server-technic with technic for a laptop. Our space costs between 1 and 2€ per GB (and the necessary space for backup is not included here) and not 0,20€/GB like for a laptop. And YES, I wish the TS would get more money to spend, but I am the wrong guy to ask for (the Verein can not even tell me, how much money I have to this year).
Sincerly, DaB.
On 08/02/12 15:08, Lars Aronsson wrote:
In December I wrote a cron job on the German toolserver, to collect statistics on external links. It works fine, but to be useful I must collect data over time, so I made a cron job to run each Monday morning.
While my attention was elsewhere, believing that this was running, it turns out the 256 Mbyte quota (!) made all my files 0 bytes in length for all of January. I have now requested and gotten an increased quota, but 6 weeks of data have been lost. And I must devote time to check my quota every week or two.
The /home disk is 600 GB of which 88 GB is free. That's not per user, but for all users together.
This seems more appropiate for /mnt/user-store than /home
It should come as a surprise to most people who donate money to the Wikimedia Foundation, that all of its volunteer developers have to share a disk the size of what is found in any laptop.
It's not set by the Wikimedia Foundation, nor does it ask/want/require volunteer developers to use it. It's a convenient service provided by WM-DE.
Not even all volunteer developers have access there.
This is the development system for the world's 6th most visited website in 2012. It quite doesn't live up to my expectations. It feels more like some hobby project in 2002. I'm a great fan of hobby projects, but with the current budget of WMDE and WMF, I thought we would have reached a higher ambition level by now.
It's not a development system for Wiki[pm]edia. It's a tool server. For a testing system for wikimedia, you should look at labs.
You can ask WMF to donate some disks to toolserver, but it shouldn't be held responsible for ts issues (unless caused by them).
PS: quota (1) doesn't show me any restriction...
From this thread and the previous one about dumps, results that some documentation is needed here: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/User-store There are some users who have 20 GB on own directories there, and other users like Lars who struggle with a few hundreds MB quota problem losing a lot of time because they don't know they can use this (provided that it's actually allowed).
Nemo
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