Even /if/ it allowed GUI access for roots via VNC, it wouldn't allow random toolserver users to use GUI based applications. In my experience, I've never seen anyone who would successfully set up a VNC session, who didn't have the knowledge /intelligence to be able to use an ssh command line.
The notion of per-user-seat licensing for DB access on per-user-seat-licensing Windows domain becomes (very quickly) astronomical. There are 273 lines in hemlock's /etc/passwd. Even if "ONLY" 200 or so of them had ToolserverDomain access...
...well, all notions of "small business" or MSDN subscriptions are obviously inapplicable. I don't know how many thousand's of dollars PER USER it would cost, but I would guess the licensing alone (PER USER) would be about $4, 000.00 US. (Plus the all the server costs.)
Tell ya what - pay me $4k for each user I teach to use X Forwarding + ssh...
Connel
2008/2/6, tools.20.connelm@spamgourmet.com tools.20.connelm@spamgourmet.com:
...well, all notions of "small business" or MSDN subscriptions are obviously inapplicable. I don't know how many thousand's of dollars PER USER it would cost, but I would guess the licensing alone (PER USER) would be about $4,000.00 US. (Plus the all the server costs.)
At my work we have one Remote Desktop server for <100 users, and AFAIK license fee for windows on this machine was 2 times larger than cost of hardware (which was high-end, so a bit expensive too)!
AJF/WarX
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Artur Fijalkowski:
AF> 2008/2/6, tools.20.connelm@spamgourmet.com AF> tools.20.connelm@spamgourmet.com:
...well, all notions of "small business" or MSDN subscriptions are obviously inapplicable. I don't know how many thousand's of dollars PER USER it would cost, but I would guess the licensing alone (PER USER) would be about $4,000.00 US. (Plus the all the server costs.)
AF> At my work we have one Remote Desktop server for <100 users, and AFAIK AF> license fee for windows on this machine was 2 times larger than cost AF> of hardware (which was high-end, so a bit expensive too)!
these are the prices for software we might use from a non-profit software supplier:
$160 Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition English/Multilanguage (32-Bit/x64) $6 Windows Terminal Services User CAL $240 SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition, x64 (Includes 1 Processor License)
the base software cost would be $400. if 200 users chose to use the server (which is a higher figure than i was imagining), the license cost would be $1,200. obviously, some money needs to be spent, but the amount doesn't seem prohibitive.
- river.
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