Hey all!
I am impressed! Wondering what tools are actually running on the toolserver I started a list. It is long! You can admire it here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Toolserver/List_of_Tools
For sure, it is incomplete as I used the toolserver wiki and jira to find information.
In the light of building Tool Labs to become a platform the tools can run on, we need more information about the tools. So here is what I ask all tool developers for:
* Please check if your tools are on the list (correctly). * Please fill in your software dependencies, data dependencies, use patterns (are they running continously? or webservices? Batch runs? etc.), the license. * If you have not given your software an explicit license, please note that only free software can migrate to Labs. Consider putting your stuff under a free license. * If you have already migrated your bot or tool to Labs and it is in the list, please say so in the last column "status". The same if a mentioned tool is abandoned and shall not move.
Thanks for your help!
Cheers, Silke
Hi!
On 18.02.2013 18:45, Silke Meyer wrote:
I am impressed! Wondering what tools are actually running on the toolserver I started a list. It is long! You can admire it here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Toolserver/List_of_Tools
For sure, it is incomplete as I used the toolserver wiki and jira to find information. [...]
- Please check if your tools are on the list (correctly).
Actually I wanted to add some info on my tools at wiki.toolserver.org a few weeks ago. But unfortunately I'm not able to login there anymore (and I don't know why). So I tried to file a ticket at the jira system. But unfortunately jira just seems to hate me. Every time I try to use jira, I need hours because of strange jira bugs/features that do not let me login or send a request or whatever. Well, to be honest, it's not just that jira hates me... I have to admit to (kind of) hate jira, too. And jira helped me a lot in liking bugzilla. ;-) Anyway, if anybody could help me, it would be very nice: https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1599
bye seth
(anonymous) wrote:
I am impressed! Wondering what tools are actually running on the toolserver I started a list. It is long! You can admire it here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Toolserver/List_of_Tools
For sure, it is incomplete as I used the toolserver wiki and jira to find information. [...]
- Please check if your tools are on the list (correctly).
Actually I wanted to add some info on my tools at wiki.toolserver.org a few weeks ago. But unfortunately I'm not able to login there anymore (and I don't know why). So I tried to file a ticket at the jira system. But unfortunately jira just seems to hate me. Every time I try to use jira, I need hours because of strange jira bugs/features that do not let me login or send a request or whatever. Well, to be honest, it's not just that jira hates me... I have to admit to (kind of) hate jira, too. And jira helped me a lot in liking bugzilla. ;-)
[...]
Actually, it's not just you whom JIRA hates, and it's not just you who hates JIRA :-).
Tim
Hello, At Tuesday 19 February 2013 15:58:26 DaB. wrote:
Actually, it's not just you whom JIRA hates, and it's not just you who hates JIRA :-).
While jira hates me from time to time too, in this case it is either crowd, OpenDS or LDAP who hates you all (I'm not sure yet).
Sincerely, DaB.
Hi,
I completed my bot info, but I have two tools developed in PHP, but they aren't use the BOT-Superzerocool (a wikinews comparator and djvu constructor for Enciclopedia Chilena).
Must I add them to list?
Regards
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Silke Meyer silke.meyer@wikimedia.dewrote:
Hey all!
I am impressed! Wondering what tools are actually running on the toolserver I started a list. It is long! You can admire it here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Toolserver/List_of_Tools
For sure, it is incomplete as I used the toolserver wiki and jira to find information.
In the light of building Tool Labs to become a platform the tools can run on, we need more information about the tools. So here is what I ask all tool developers for:
- Please check if your tools are on the list (correctly).
- Please fill in your software dependencies, data dependencies, use
patterns (are they running continously? or webservices? Batch runs? etc.), the license.
- If you have not given your software an explicit license, please note
that only free software can migrate to Labs. Consider putting your stuff under a free license.
- If you have already migrated your bot or tool to Labs and it is in the
list, please say so in the last column "status". The same if a mentioned tool is abandoned and shall not move.
Thanks for your help!
Cheers, Silke
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Hi Dennis,
I completed my bot info, but I have two tools developed in PHP, but they aren't use the BOT-Superzerocool (a wikinews comparator and djvu constructor for Enciclopedia Chilena).
Must I add them to list?
Yes, please. :)
Thanks, Silke
Silke Meyer wrote:
I am impressed! Wondering what tools are actually running on the toolserver I started a list. It is long! You can admire it here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Toolserver/List_of_Tools
Hi. Thanks for working on this.
Your current methodology is fine, but I think it'll result in a few false positives and a lot of false negatives. If you could combine your current aggregation methods (looking mostly at what's documented on the wiki or tracked in JIRA) with a look at (sampled) Web requests, I think you'd get a much better picture of what's being used. There are likely some tools (like all of mine) that are getting hundreds or thousands of requests per day, but got missed from the current list entirely.
It may also make sense to look at which processes are running throughout a given day or week or month and to try to get an idea of what kind of database queries are being run by looking at MySQL query logs.
I agree that it's very impressive what you can find on wiki.toolserver.org and jira.toolserver.org, but I think you'll be even more impressed when you can see a truer picture of the beast that's been built. ;-)
MZMcBride
Hey, MZMcBride,
yeah, thanks for the hints and ideas, I'll keep the investigation of tools going. Silke
Am 19.02.2013 02:09, schrieb MZMcBride:
Silke Meyer wrote:
I am impressed! Wondering what tools are actually running on the toolserver I started a list. It is long! You can admire it here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Toolserver/List_of_Tools
Hi. Thanks for working on this.
Your current methodology is fine, but I think it'll result in a few false positives and a lot of false negatives. If you could combine your current aggregation methods (looking mostly at what's documented on the wiki or tracked in JIRA) with a look at (sampled) Web requests, I think you'd get a much better picture of what's being used. There are likely some tools (like all of mine) that are getting hundreds or thousands of requests per day, but got missed from the current list entirely.
It may also make sense to look at which processes are running throughout a given day or week or month and to try to get an idea of what kind of database queries are being run by looking at MySQL query logs.
I agree that it's very impressive what you can find on wiki.toolserver.org and jira.toolserver.org, but I think you'll be even more impressed when you can see a truer picture of the beast that's been built. ;-)
MZMcBride
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