On 20/08/06, Daniel Kinzler <daniel(a)brightbyte.de> wrote: A plaque. We should invest in a plaque. With all the rules on, in English, German and an obscure middle-Eastern language (for PR purposes). We're all, I think, sane enough users here, at varying levels of IT competence (but with, I hope, at least a basic competence in using an SSH client, and presumably SQL of some variety and at least one programming or major scripting language) - and I'd like to think I'm addressing a bunch of decent people. As the rules explain; Zedler is a shared system...more than one person uses it, and it's not a sodding supercomputer. We've all got to appreciate each other's space, and appreciate that we can't waste 40% of the CPU* for 12 hours** and not expect someone to get pissed off. Security is everyone's responsibility, to some greater or lesser extent; after all, if Zedler goes down, then we've had it as far as tools go. I'm a little concerned that a lot of new users are *not* in what I'd call "the original clique" - that is, the original, smaller group of users who everybody knew from somewhere and could vouch for the sanity of. That isn't, of course, to say that every new user account added means a total newbie has joined us, but it does mean we need to be more thoughtful and more alert with respect to possible issues. Zedler's got issues; replication is, admittedly, extremely shite, for the most part, especially for the English Wikipedia database, and I totally concede that if this thing's going to be at all useful in the future, then we need to fix that. Best help is for us to be able to concentrate on cutting through the paperwork (ok, for DaB to be able to concentrate...) and avoid us having to jump into every minor issue that arises. :) Rob Church

2006/8/21, Daniel Kinzler <daniel(a)brightbyte.de>de>: I think that this rule should be canceled until we have this system. Due to recent problems with one of my scripts I was going to create interface to allow some trusted users (or any user with more than 1000 edits except some blacklisted) to _stop_ any of my bots without blocking bot's account. Of course, such a tool should check which user is making this request; now the only way to do that is to ask password on Wikipedia. -- Edward Chernenko <edwardspec(a)gmail.com>