Hello, perhaps this would be a good moment to transfer Geohack to a regular mediawiki-extension on the main servers.
I hear this was also the plan of brion vibber before he go. Who we need to ask now for this?
I don't know why but I have no access to geohack-scripts anymore. So I can't do anything.
Greetings Kolossos
river wrote:
Hi,
As announced two months ago, we are planning to EOL the stable server in favour of multi-maintainer projects on the normal Toolserver. The following projects are still running on the stable server:
- geohack
- wma
- delinker
We intend to repurpose the hardware currently used for the stable server to provide redundancy database replication, but this can't happen until all projects have migrated off the stable server.
- river.
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Tim Alder tim@alder-digital.de wrote:
Hello, perhaps this would be a good moment to transfer Geohack to a regular mediawiki-extension on the main servers.
I hear this was also the plan of brion vibber before he go. Who we need to ask now for this?
I asked Brion on the Paris meeting and he said he'd have a look. But, I didn't hear anything back, so I assume he didn't.
wikimedia.org doesn't list an official CTO, so for the time being, I guess Tim Starling is the person to ask.
Last time I had a long look at the code, the extension part seemed to be in good condition. One half is using it as a special page (just a wrapper around the current code calls), and getting the wiki template from the cache instead of the http rendering.
Compatability might have deteriorated since then, though.
I don't know why but I have no access to geohack-scripts anymore. So I can't do anything.
I'm still travelling, and probably won't have both access and time to work on it until end of next week.
I guess the way to go is to get http://toolserver.org/~geohack/ operational as a stop-gap until someone finally gets around to sign off the extension and install it on the live site.
It seems to work /almost/ correctly. Maybe not all settings were migrated: http://toolserver.org/~geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Berlin%C2%B6ms=52_30_2_N...
Cheers, Magnus
Greetings Kolossos
river wrote:
Hi,
As announced two months ago, we are planning to EOL the stable server in favour of multi-maintainer projects on the normal Toolserver. The following projects are still running on the stable server:
- geohack
- wma
- delinker
We intend to repurpose the hardware currently used for the stable server to provide redundancy database replication, but this can't happen until all projects have migrated off the stable server.
- river.
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Magnus Manske wrote:
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Tim Alder wrote:
Hello, perhaps this would be a good moment to transfer Geohack to a regular mediawiki-extension on the main servers.
I hear this was also the plan of brion vibber before he go. Who we need to ask now for this?
Yes, moving to an extension seems the way to go.
I asked Brion on the Paris meeting and he said he'd have a look. But, I didn't hear anything back, so I assume he didn't.
wikimedia.org doesn't list an official CTO, so for the time being, I guess Tim Starling is the person to ask.
Yes.
Last time I had a long look at the code, the extension part seemed to be in good condition. One half is using it as a special page (just a wrapper around the current code calls), and getting the wiki template from the cache instead of the http rendering.
Which extension is it? http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/geo/ ?
Compatability might have deteriorated since then, though.
I don't know why but I have no access to geohack-scripts anymore. So I can't do anything.
I'm still travelling, and probably won't have both access and time to work on it until end of next week.
The first step should be to make the scripts available before moving to anything. Kolossos says he can't access geohack-scripts, https://fisheye.toolserver.org/browse/geohack shows an empty svn folder... (*ahem*, https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-187 )
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Platonides platonides@gmail.com wrote:
Which extension is it? http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/geo/ ?
Actually, most of it seems to be in http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/gis/
The first step should be to make the scripts available before moving to anything. Kolossos says he can't access geohack-scripts, https://fisheye.toolserver.org/browse/geohack shows an empty svn folder... (*ahem*, https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-187 )
Yes, this is a mess, but IMHO this is largely not our (geohack maintainers) fault; rather, things kept/keep changing on the toolserver, stable or not, and things are generally not "in sync". For example, https://svn.toolserver.org/svnroot/geohack/ has a version of geohack, but fisheye does not show it. I am not sure how up-to-date this is, either; and I can't commit to (or even developer-checkout) that repository, neither as magnus nor as geohack.
For now, I have put the current sources from stable into my own toolserver svn: https://fisheye.toolserver.org/browse/Magnus/geohack
If anyone can update the "real" repository, and convince fisheye to show them too, that'd be peachy :-)
Cheers, Magnus
Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
perhaps this would be a good moment to transfer Geohack to a regular mediawiki-extension on the main servers.
I hear this was also the plan of brion vibber before he go. Who we need to ask now for this?
I asked Brion on the Paris meeting and he said he'd have a look. But, I didn't hear anything back, so I assume he didn't.
wikimedia.org doesn't list an official CTO, so for the time being, I guess Tim Starling is the person to ask.
Last time I had a long look at the code, the extension part seemed to be in good condition. One half is using it as a special page (just a wrapper around the current code calls), and getting the wiki template from the cache instead of the http rendering.
Compatability might have deteriorated since then, though. [...]
I had a look at the code one or two years ago, and started a small DWIM-and-nothing-more extension "Mapsources" along the lines of "Booksources" that "called" a template with the co- ordinates as parameters so that you could use all of Media- Wiki's parser functions & Co. in it. The idea would have been to extend it eventually to have the list of map sources ordered by the region of the individual coordinate and by user preference (Swiss coordinates: Swisstopo, British coor- dinates: Ordnance Survey, etc.) with a timeout so that if you don't react within x seconds the first map source is chosen.
But #1, then I stumbled upon a post of yours where you pointed out that Special:TemplateLink would be much more suitable to replace the whole Geohack shebang, and I think you were right.
But #2, with all the work going on with OSM and the Maps extension, wouldn't it be wiser to integrate Geohack's func- tionality with the later?
Tim (f'uping to wikitech-l)
I wrote:
perhaps this would be a good moment to transfer Geohack to a regular mediawiki-extension on the main servers.
I hear this was also the plan of brion vibber before he go. Who we need to ask now for this?
I asked Brion on the Paris meeting and he said he'd have a look. But, I didn't hear anything back, so I assume he didn't.
wikimedia.org doesn't list an official CTO, so for the time being, I guess Tim Starling is the person to ask.
Last time I had a long look at the code, the extension part seemed to be in good condition. One half is using it as a special page (just a wrapper around the current code calls), and getting the wiki template from the cache instead of the http rendering.
Compatability might have deteriorated since then, though. [...]
I had a look at the code one or two years ago, and started a small DWIM-and-nothing-more extension "Mapsources" along the lines of "Booksources" that "called" a template with the co- ordinates as parameters so that you could use all of Media- Wiki's parser functions & Co. in it. The idea would have been to extend it eventually to have the list of map sources ordered by the region of the individual coordinate and by user preference (Swiss coordinates: Swisstopo, British coor- dinates: Ordnance Survey, etc.) with a timeout so that if you don't react within x seconds the first map source is chosen.
But #1, then I stumbled upon a post of yours where you pointed out that Special:TemplateLink would be much more suitable to replace the whole Geohack shebang, and I think you were right.
But #2, with all the work going on with OSM and the Maps extension, wouldn't it be wiser to integrate Geohack's func- tionality with the later?
As there was no response, I resurrected the code from my ar- chives and created URI:http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Mapsources (code available by "git clone http://www.tim-landscheidt.de/git/Mapsources"). It's not yet ready for production, but with the main source file below 300 LOCs, it shouldn't be that hard (mainly properly vali- dating and escaping input).
Tim
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