On 5 February 2010 02:59, Daniel Schwen lists@schwen.de wrote:
The default copyright stance, unless a licence specifies otherwise, is "All Rights Reserved". I don't think we have the right to enforce a licence that is all about freedom unless a user opts-in.
Of course we have. When a user obtains an account on the toolserver he effectively enters contract with Wikimedia Deutschland. Of course licensing can be tied to that. How can you suggest otherwise?!
I mean a moral right.
Closed source software can be as good as open source software - do remember that. And closed source software doesn't have to be commercial. While (imo) WM-DE should support free and open source
This is _completely_ besides the point. Please do not make this a heise-forum-style idiology debate. There are purely pragmatic reasons for free licensing here: 1) avoiding dying tools when maintainers leave. 2) fostering synergies through code sharing
Of course you can take the stance to say "just write the tool again". What a waste of time! Developer resources should be values higher than this.
You seem to have missed the point that I agree with the benefits of open-source and am a strong supporter of it and hence am well acquainted with the benefits.
Forcing it upon people is bad. Re-writing a tool is onerous and can be avoided by *educating* users to open source their software, and perhaps gently prodding them from time-to-time to do so.
Martin