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Lars Aronsson:
My problem is a lack of speed. When I say "geotagging", I want geotagging to happen, but so far it is delayed by this and that.
can't really answer that without knowing what 'this and that' are (i understand most of the problem are caused by people having a lack of time, which isn't really something we (= admins) can fix).
When I want to add interwiki links (using Multichill's suggester), the failed s3 replication delays a large portion of that work.
yes, this was unfortunate, but i've spoken to the WMF admins about it, and i think it shouldn't happen in future. the chances would be further reduced if we could have redundant database replicas, but we don't have the ~EUR24'000 (+ power costs) needed to make that happen.
if you have specific technical questions/problems, i can answer those, or explain why things are as they are.
I have tons of these, but I'll save them for another thread.
i can hardly wait.
as far as resources go: yes, we're short of money. we have just about enough to keep the toolserver running most of the time, but with more money it could be a lot more reliable (and faster).
How does this money flow?
the Verein purchases hardware itself using donations. as far as i'm aware there has been no work on grants or additional funding. usually, we have a general idea of what we need (new database, new web server, ...), then discuss an exact specification, look at prices and decide on a final list of purchases. we send these to the Verein and they incorporate it into the budget.
Does the toolserver have a budget of its own?
yes. but it's decided at the start of the year based on the minimum amount we need to survive for the entire year, plus a small discretionary budget for small hardware costs, software, etc.
A balance sheet that shows what you've used the money for?
if there is one, it's not public. this year, we have spent ~EUR2'000 on a new web server and ~EUR8'000 on a new database for s1 (enwiki), which also helps s3; the Verein separately spent ~20'000 EUR on a server to replicate Wikimedia uploads in Amsterdam. this used up most of the budget; we might be able to afford one or two additional servers, if necessary.
Is the server wholly owned by Wikimedia Deutschland?
yes, except the servers that are owned by Wikimedia (hemlock and amaranth, because they were donated by Sun, and vandale and zedler, because they were donated by Kennisnet).
They're hardly short of money, are they?
i don't know how you define "short of money". they don't have enough money to support everything we want to do.
Ah, always this WMF bottleneck. While we're waiting, could we send someone more along Werdna's path?
i don't think we would have much luck trying to get the WMF to employ someone just so we can make them a TS admin.
Are the current admins doing some tasks that can be delegated to unprivileged users?
nothing that takes a significant amount of time.
Are there some projects that only use database dumps,
it's quite likely, but i don't know of any. perhaps someone could start a list.
and no replicated data, that could run on a separate (low security) server with a more liberal admin policy?
this server would need to be completely separate from the existing Toolserver infrastructure, which would significantly increase admin workload. it would make more sense for it to be run by someone else, unrelated to the Toolserver. (as if it had its own admins, all we would be doing is providing hosting and hardware.)
Is there a budget, a balance sheet, a bank account? On the Toolserver Wiki, the donation page asks for donations to be sent to Wikimedia Deutschland or WMF. If both organizations have a problem to send money out of their countries, that seems suboptimal.
why? the Verein buys the hardware; they don't have to send the money to anyone. having hardware owned by the WMF is also no problem, as we work closely with them anyway (and we already use some of their hardware). what i want to avoid is having 20 chapters owning different bits of the hardware, and having to chase down some new person every time we need a broken disk replaced.
Our next chapter board meeting is on Monday evening, March 2. Do you have any suggestion I should bring forward?
i don't know what projects would help Swedish users specifically. some examples of things we are currently unable to buy would be:
- - 3 new databases to provide a redundant replica of each cluster. ~EUR8'000 each, EUR24'000 total. - - a ZWS license for stable, which would improve web hosting reliability by replacing our current software (switchboard). ~EUR1'300 - - a paid admin. ~EUR15'000/year
- river.