Toolserver-l November 2007

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Re: [Toolserver-l] stable editcounter
by koneko＠tiscali.fr 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

>I do not want to be unkind, but concept with opt-in using special >subpages is drastically stupid. >Please change your mind before we have 100 000 opt in pages on 700 projects. >AJF/WarX meow It doesn't look that bad to me, and you can check your option with a single click on subpage (but sure, it'd look much better if SUL is created, with one opt-in subpage for all projects) Putting it on main userpage/talk page doesn't look advantageous to me : -bigger page to parse -opt-in informations lost in the middle of other things I suppose the subpage is read (from the TS DB) every time the editcount is called, so with user pages weighting many k's it could become a signifiant strain. fr:user:DarkoNeko ------------------------ ALICE C'EST ENCORE MIEUX AVEC CANAL+ LE BOUQUET ! --------------- Découvrez vite l'offre exclusive ALICEBOX et CANAL+ LE BOUQUET, en cliquant ici http://alicebox.fr Soumis à conditions.

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maintenance at knams Tuesday morning
by River Tarnell 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

hello, there will be network maintenance at knams on Tuesday morning (UTC). connectivity to the toolserver will probably be sporadic during this time. - river.

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stable editcounter
by River Tarnell 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

hello, i have adapted DaB.'s editcounter to the stable server: http://stable.ts.wikimedia.org/editcount/ source: http://fisheye.ts.wikimedia.org/browse/editcount svn: svn://stable.ts.wikimedia.org/editcount bugs: https://jira.ts.wikimedia.org/browse/EDITCOUNTER current maintainers are DaB. and myself. the tool is written in Java; additional maintainers are welcome. - river.

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List of unconfirmed accounts
by DaB. 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

Hello all, I got many eMails from you all :). I expand all these accounts to 5 May 2008. Below is the list of people who did NOT send me an email. So if you are NOT on this list, I got your eMail and everything is fine. If you are on this list and like to confirm your account, please send me an eMail to ts-not-expire(a)daniel.baur4.info (don't forget to name your accountname). If you are on the list and send me an eMail allready, please send it again. Sincerly, DaB. 80686 aaron aaronsw adambro annabel arkyan autocracy avar aviator betacommand bjweeks brendan byrial cbrown1023 charlie chp1994 chris christophe cmackenzie cool_cat cyroxx dapete dario_vet darkoneko dbryant dvyjones eagle engels erkomandante escaladix evhart flacus fmaunier gchriss gerald geridev gmaxwell gribeco hashar helios hippietrail ideogram ilyah interiot ipye joanjoc kmartin kylu lar leon lottobot madman magnus marc mashiah mathbot mcmonster mdd4696 merphant millosh multichill nikola notafish olaf orgullo paulatz pgk porao presroi prolineserver purodha pxma revvar rhodo robert secular_mind selket shadow1 skenmy snowolf spamda stable stephanie stv symode09 tawker thebainer valhallasw veinor verisimilus viksit virgil vishwin60 voj webboy where wikihermit yuma zach -- wp-blog.de

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Re: [Toolserver-l] Stable server, a few questions
by Huji 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

Reading Simterical's comments, I asked myself, what are the advantages and disadvantages of having Edit Counter as an extension, and not a Toolserver project? Being part of MediaWiki's (extensions) code allows faster internationlization of messages. Also, there will be no replication lag to take into account. On the other hand, *perhaps* it may make creation of graphs a little harder, but I'm not sure (since I regularly create several graphs using PHP and GD with my Toolserver account). What do you think?

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Sorry for the spam, please unsubscribe the other me
by Dan Collins 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

Hey folks. Sorry for the issues with my email spamming this and other lists over the last few days, google decided to kill my gmail account... - Please unsubscribe the other address, as I don't have access to the account and can't do that confirmation stuff. -- DCollins/ST47 Administrator, en.wikipedia.org Channel Operator, irc.freenode.net/#wikipedia

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Stable server, a few questions
by Delphine Ménard 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

Hi there, on the stable toolserver project page, I read: "There are a number of important, well liked, and widely used tools on the toolserver systems. Currently the toolserver serves well over 1 million http requests per day to over 65,000 distinct IPs per day and there are a number of non-http based tools as well. The 3 to 4 most popular tools account for roughly 3/4 of the http requests." (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver/Stable_server) In short, it shows that the toolserver and the tools hosted by it *are* important to the community (and maybe the readers out there, I can't figure out, really). I have a few questions about this: 1) do we know what tools are the most used (and hence would actually make most sense to migrate to a stable toolserver) 2) Can we, from the above list, also say which tools are the most useful (ie. without which some projects would just break, I am especially thinking Commons here) 3) Do I undersand this right in saying that a "stable" toolserver would mean a way of actually integrating for real those tools into our daily operational monitoring (ie. it *must* work, just like the websites must be up)? 4) Has anyone actually made any kind of a budget concerning what kind of machine we'd need, what the cost of maintenance would be, if we want to make sure there is some sysadmin time devoted to it (ie. a real full cost things about this). My underlying idea is the following. There are many organisations out there, Wikimedia Chapters and other friends of Wikimedia, who would definitely finance something like a stable toolserver, all the more if it is proven that it is essential to the Wikimedia projects [*]. So I would really urge those who are developping and maintaining tools that are useful and widely used to express their interest and help build this project so that it is "sellable" to entities ready to help us with making it happen. Cheers, Delphine *for example, in all POV fashion, I am not sure that an edit counter" is *essential* to the Wikimedia projects, although it's good tool and might be an important asset to the development of the community. On the other hand, I am convinced that "check usage" is essential for the Wikimedia projects on a wide scale. ----- Delphine Ménard Chapters coordinator Wikimedia Foundation dmenard[at]wikimedia[punto]org

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Re: [Toolserver-l] Stable server editcounter
by Huji 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

I'll be able to help in both PHP and Python (although I'm more a PHP guy). I think we should really make a more clear plan about caching, features that are going to be included, graphs that are going to be generated (if any) (I really miss the graphs which were previously present in Interiot's tool) etc. Hojjat (aka Huji)

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Stable server editcounter
by E 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

As suggested before, we should begin to explore the need of a dedicated editcounter that is run on the new stable server. The simple fact is that it would make life easier for many wikis, by providing a fast and reliable editcounter for users to utilise for any purpose (RfA, RfB, etc.). Is there anyone that has a editcount utility that would be fine with hosting it on the stable server? Thanks in advance, Kind regards, E English Wikipedia e.wikipedia(a)gmail.com

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Stable server editcounter
by E 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

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