Hello everyone,
I just wanted to share some tips that I learned these days for engaging more people in the strategy discussions. Most of them were suggested to me by contributors during discussions on village pumps. They might maybe help some of you too.
Till Tuesday there was only 1 comment left on the discussion page for the French Wikipedia. Inter-wikis such as wikiversity (fr) and wikisource (fr) were even more active. Two days later there are over 20 folks debating in the French Wikipedia.
Below are some of the tips that helped me:
- Switch from posting on village pumps only to posting on village pumps AND on talk pages of active members. You may find active users with the wikiscan tool (eg: most active users in Spanish wikipedia during February http://es.wikiscan.org/date/201703/users) - Specify in the message that you leave on talk pages of active usres that their opinion really matters no matter if they are sysop or just doing spelling check. - Include in your message few links explaining the context, the overall process, and the FAQ - I translated, into English, the template message that I used when inviting contributors individually. You will find it here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/French_Wikipedia#John74.2C_you_too.2C_join_the_discussion_for_the_future.27s_movement
If you guys have any other tips that worked for you please, I would love to hear them, especially how you get volunteers to help you summarize discussions.
Cheers,
*_______________________________________________________*
*Samuel Guebo*
*Creative Director **at E-voir http://e-voir.net/*
*GLAM-WIKI Coordinator in Côte d'IvoireVice-chair of Wikimedia Community User Group Côte d'Ivoire (WCUG-CI)*
*(225) 77 34 17 21 / 40 27 28 37**Join me on : Facebook http://facebook.com./samuel.guebo / Twitter http://twitter.com/samuelguebo / Blog http://samuelguebo.co*
Thank you, Samuel, for sharing your experience. Indeed,direct messages can have a big impact on responsiveness.
Glad you are sharing mire broadly!
Best,
Jaime
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM Samuel Guebo samuelguebo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to share some tips that I learned these days for engaging more people in the strategy discussions. Most of them were suggested to me by contributors during discussions on village pumps. They might maybe help some of you too.
Till Tuesday there was only 1 comment left on the discussion page for the French Wikipedia. Inter-wikis such as wikiversity (fr) and wikisource (fr) were even more active. Two days later there are over 20 folks debating in the French Wikipedia.
Below are some of the tips that helped me:
- Switch from posting on village pumps only to posting on village
pumps AND on talk pages of active members. You may find active users with the wikiscan tool (eg: most active users in Spanish wikipedia during February http://es.wikiscan.org/date/201703/users)
- Specify in the message that you leave on talk pages of active usres
that their opinion really matters no matter if they are sysop or just doing spelling check.
- Include in your message few links explaining the context, the
overall process, and the FAQ
- I translated, into English, the template message that I used when
inviting contributors individually. You will find it here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/French_Wikipedia#John74.2C_you_too.2C_join_the_discussion_for_the_future.27s_movement
If you guys have any other tips that worked for you please, I would love to hear them, especially how you get volunteers to help you summarize discussions.
Cheers,
*_______________________________________________________*
*Samuel Guebo*
*Creative Director **at E-voir http://e-voir.net/*
*GLAM-WIKI Coordinator in Côte d'IvoireVice-chair of Wikimedia Community User Group Côte d'Ivoire (WCUG-CI)*
*(225) 77 34 17 21 / 40 27 28 37**Join me on : Facebook http://facebook.com./samuel.guebo / Twitter http://twitter.com/samuelguebo / Blog http://samuelguebo.co* _______________________________________________ Strategy mailing list Strategy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/strategy
Thanks Samuel for the tips, The documentation of your work helped me in a few points (again).
In particular, my message did not include many links with information on the process, I've added that for the invites I'm still making.
Congrats on your use of Wikiscan, I did not remember that tool and used quarry queries https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/17537 to get the information.. I also used a bot to make the bulk of the invites, which allowed me to personalize each message with the number of edits the editor made in the last 30 days and his position on the most active contributor on the project in that time.
I used PAWS to run the bot, if anyone needs assistance setting something similar I'm available to help.
Cheers,
Chico Venancio
2017-03-23 23:17 GMT-03:00 Jaime Anstee janstee@wikimedia.org:
Thank you, Samuel, for sharing your experience. Indeed,direct messages can have a big impact on responsiveness.
Glad you are sharing mire broadly!
Best,
Jaime
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM Samuel Guebo samuelguebo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to share some tips that I learned these days for engaging more people in the strategy discussions. Most of them were suggested to me by contributors during discussions on village pumps. They might maybe help some of you too.
Till Tuesday there was only 1 comment left on the discussion page for the French Wikipedia. Inter-wikis such as wikiversity (fr) and wikisource (fr) were even more active. Two days later there are over 20 folks debating in the French Wikipedia.
Below are some of the tips that helped me:
- Switch from posting on village pumps only to posting on village
pumps AND on talk pages of active members. You may find active users with the wikiscan tool (eg: most active users in Spanish wikipedia during February http://es.wikiscan.org/date/201703/users)
- Specify in the message that you leave on talk pages of active usres
that their opinion really matters no matter if they are sysop or just doing spelling check.
- Include in your message few links explaining the context, the
overall process, and the FAQ
- I translated, into English, the template message that I used when
inviting contributors individually. You will find it here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/French_Wikipedia#John74.2C_you_too.2C_join_the_discussion_for_the_future.27s_movement
If you guys have any other tips that worked for you please, I would love to hear them, especially how you get volunteers to help you summarize discussions.
Cheers,
*_______________________________________________________*
*Samuel Guebo*
*Creative Director **at E-voir http://e-voir.net/*
*GLAM-WIKI Coordinator in Côte d'IvoireVice-chair of Wikimedia Community User Group Côte d'Ivoire (WCUG-CI)*
*(225) 77 34 17 21 / 40 27 28 37**Join me on : Facebook http://facebook.com./samuel.guebo / Twitter http://twitter.com/samuelguebo / Blog http://samuelguebo.co* _______________________________________________ Strategy mailing list Strategy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/strategy
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It was a very clever approach using the bot. I thought of it too but did know how to get the most active folks. I guess your query was the missing piece. With this new piece of information I might use my bot for reaching out to active users in inter-wikis.
Thank you very much Chico.
__________
Samuel GUEBO, GLAM-WIKI coordinator in Côte d'Ivoire
Sent from my Asus Zenfone 5, excuse the brevity. Le 25 mars 2017 01:57, "Chico Venancio" chicocvenancio@gmail.com a écrit :
Thanks Samuel for the tips, The documentation of your work helped me in a few points (again).
In particular, my message did not include many links with information on the process, I've added that for the invites I'm still making.
Congrats on your use of Wikiscan, I did not remember that tool and used quarry queries https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/17537 to get the information.. I also used a bot to make the bulk of the invites, which allowed me to personalize each message with the number of edits the editor made in the last 30 days and his position on the most active contributor on the project in that time.
I used PAWS to run the bot, if anyone needs assistance setting something similar I'm available to help.
Cheers,
Chico Venancio
2017-03-23 23:17 GMT-03:00 Jaime Anstee janstee@wikimedia.org:
Thank you, Samuel, for sharing your experience. Indeed,direct messages can have a big impact on responsiveness.
Glad you are sharing mire broadly!
Best,
Jaime
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM Samuel Guebo samuelguebo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to share some tips that I learned these days for engaging more people in the strategy discussions. Most of them were suggested to me by contributors during discussions on village pumps. They might maybe help some of you too.
Till Tuesday there was only 1 comment left on the discussion page for the French Wikipedia. Inter-wikis such as wikiversity (fr) and wikisource (fr) were even more active. Two days later there are over 20 folks debating in the French Wikipedia.
Below are some of the tips that helped me:
- Switch from posting on village pumps only to posting on village
pumps AND on talk pages of active members. You may find active users with the wikiscan tool (eg: most active users in Spanish wikipedia during February http://es.wikiscan.org/date/201703/users)
- Specify in the message that you leave on talk pages of active
usres that their opinion really matters no matter if they are sysop or just doing spelling check.
- Include in your message few links explaining the context, the
overall process, and the FAQ
- I translated, into English, the template message that I used when
inviting contributors individually. You will find it here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/French_Wikipedia#John74.2C_you_too.2C_join_the_discussion_for_the_future.27s_movement
If you guys have any other tips that worked for you please, I would love to hear them, especially how you get volunteers to help you summarize discussions.
Cheers,
*_______________________________________________________*
*Samuel Guebo*
*Creative Director **at E-voir http://e-voir.net/*
*GLAM-WIKI Coordinator in Côte d'IvoireVice-chair of Wikimedia Community User Group Côte d'Ivoire (WCUG-CI)*
*(225) 77 34 17 21 <77%2034%2017%2021> / 40 27 28 37 <40%2027%2028%2037>**Join me on : Facebook http://facebook.com./samuel.guebo / Twitter http://twitter.com/samuelguebo / Blog http://samuelguebo.co* _______________________________________________ Strategy mailing list Strategy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/strategy
--
Jaime Anstee, Ph.D Senior Strategist, Manager, & Affiliations Committee Liaison Learning & Evaluation Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6869 www.wikimediafoundation.org
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org https://donate.wikimedia.org/*
Strategy mailing list Strategy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/strategy
Be cautious with using the method of personally inviting many users on their talk pages. I started doing so on the Dutch Wikipedia and I immediately got two of them complaining about it.
Regards, Robin
2017-03-25 4:20 GMT+01:00 Samuel Guebo samuelguebo@gmail.com:
It was a very clever approach using the bot. I thought of it too but did know how to get the most active folks. I guess your query was the missing piece. With this new piece of information I might use my bot for reaching out to active users in inter-wikis.
Thank you very much Chico.
Samuel GUEBO, GLAM-WIKI coordinator in Côte d'Ivoire
Sent from my Asus Zenfone 5, excuse the brevity. Le 25 mars 2017 01:57, "Chico Venancio" chicocvenancio@gmail.com a écrit :
Thanks Samuel for the tips, The documentation of your work helped me in a few points (again).
In particular, my message did not include many links with information on the process, I've added that for the invites I'm still making.
Congrats on your use of Wikiscan, I did not remember that tool and used quarry queries https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/17537 to get the information.. I also used a bot to make the bulk of the invites, which allowed me to personalize each message with the number of edits the editor made in the last 30 days and his position on the most active contributor on the project in that time.
I used PAWS to run the bot, if anyone needs assistance setting something similar I'm available to help.
Cheers,
Chico Venancio
2017-03-23 23:17 GMT-03:00 Jaime Anstee janstee@wikimedia.org:
Thank you, Samuel, for sharing your experience. Indeed,direct messages can have a big impact on responsiveness.
Glad you are sharing mire broadly!
Best,
Jaime
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM Samuel Guebo samuelguebo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to share some tips that I learned these days for engaging more people in the strategy discussions. Most of them were suggested to me by contributors during discussions on village pumps. They might maybe help some of you too.
Till Tuesday there was only 1 comment left on the discussion page for the French Wikipedia. Inter-wikis such as wikiversity (fr) and wikisource (fr) were even more active. Two days later there are over 20 folks debating in the French Wikipedia.
Below are some of the tips that helped me:
- Switch from posting on village pumps only to posting on village
pumps AND on talk pages of active members. You may find active users with the wikiscan tool (eg: most active users in Spanish wikipedia during February http://es.wikiscan.org/date/201703/users)
- Specify in the message that you leave on talk pages of active
usres that their opinion really matters no matter if they are sysop or just doing spelling check.
- Include in your message few links explaining the context, the
overall process, and the FAQ
- I translated, into English, the template message that I used when
inviting contributors individually. You will find it here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/French_Wikipedia#John74.2C_you_too.2C_join_the_discussion_for_the_future.27s_movement
If you guys have any other tips that worked for you please, I would love to hear them, especially how you get volunteers to help you summarize discussions.
Cheers,
*_______________________________________________________*
*Samuel Guebo*
*Creative Director **at E-voir http://e-voir.net/*
*GLAM-WIKI Coordinator in Côte d'IvoireVice-chair of Wikimedia Community User Group Côte d'Ivoire (WCUG-CI)*
*(225) 77 34 17 21 <77%2034%2017%2021> / 40 27 28 37 <40%2027%2028%2037>**Join me on : Facebook http://facebook.com./samuel.guebo / Twitter http://twitter.com/samuelguebo / Blog http://samuelguebo.co* _______________________________________________ Strategy mailing list Strategy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/strategy
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Jaime Anstee, Ph.D Senior Strategist, Manager, & Affiliations Committee Liaison Learning & Evaluation Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6869 www.wikimediafoundation.org
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org https://donate.wikimedia.org/*
Strategy mailing list Strategy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/strategy
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Hi Robin,
Could you be more specific about the grounds for complaining?
Ad Huikeshoven
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Robin Pepermans robinp.1273@gmail.com wrote:
Be cautious with using the method of personally inviting many users on their talk pages. I started doing so on the Dutch Wikipedia and I immediately got two of them complaining about it.
Regards, Robin
2017-03-25 4:20 GMT+01:00 Samuel Guebo samuelguebo@gmail.com:
It was a very clever approach using the bot. I thought of it too but did know how to get the most active folks. I guess your query was the missing piece. With this new piece of information I might use my bot for reaching out to active users in inter-wikis.
Thank you very much Chico.
Samuel GUEBO, GLAM-WIKI coordinator in Côte d'Ivoire
Sent from my Asus Zenfone 5, excuse the brevity. Le 25 mars 2017 01:57, "Chico Venancio" chicocvenancio@gmail.com a écrit :
Thanks Samuel for the tips, The documentation of your work helped me in a few points (again).
In particular, my message did not include many links with information on the process, I've added that for the invites I'm still making.
Congrats on your use of Wikiscan, I did not remember that tool and used quarry queries https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/17537 to get the information.. I also used a bot to make the bulk of the invites, which allowed me to personalize each message with the number of edits the editor made in the last 30 days and his position on the most active contributor on the project in that time.
I used PAWS to run the bot, if anyone needs assistance setting something similar I'm available to help.
Cheers,
Chico Venancio
2017-03-23 23:17 GMT-03:00 Jaime Anstee janstee@wikimedia.org:
Thank you, Samuel, for sharing your experience. Indeed,direct messages can have a big impact on responsiveness.
Glad you are sharing mire broadly!
Best,
Jaime
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM Samuel Guebo samuelguebo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to share some tips that I learned these days for engaging more people in the strategy discussions. Most of them were suggested to me by contributors during discussions on village pumps. They might maybe help some of you too.
Till Tuesday there was only 1 comment left on the discussion page for the French Wikipedia. Inter-wikis such as wikiversity (fr) and wikisource (fr) were even more active. Two days later there are over 20 folks debating in the French Wikipedia.
Below are some of the tips that helped me:
- Switch from posting on village pumps only to posting on village
pumps AND on talk pages of active members. You may find active users with the wikiscan tool (eg: most active users in Spanish wikipedia during February http://es.wikiscan.org/date/201703/users)
- Specify in the message that you leave on talk pages of active
usres that their opinion really matters no matter if they are sysop or just doing spelling check.
- Include in your message few links explaining the context, the
overall process, and the FAQ
- I translated, into English, the template message that I used
when inviting contributors individually. You will find it here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/French_Wikipedia#John74.2C_you_too.2C_join_the_discussion_for_the_future.27s_movement
If you guys have any other tips that worked for you please, I would love to hear them, especially how you get volunteers to help you summarize discussions.
Cheers,
*_______________________________________________________*
*Samuel Guebo*
*Creative Director **at E-voir http://e-voir.net/*
*GLAM-WIKI Coordinator in Côte d'IvoireVice-chair of Wikimedia Community User Group Côte d'Ivoire (WCUG-CI)*
*(225) 77 34 17 21 <77%2034%2017%2021> / 40 27 28 37 <40%2027%2028%2037>**Join me on : Facebook http://facebook.com./samuel.guebo / Twitter http://twitter.com/samuelguebo / Blog http://samuelguebo.co* _______________________________________________ Strategy mailing list Strategy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/strategy
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Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org https://donate.wikimedia.org/*
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Hi Ad,
Some users on the Dutch Wikipedia consider mass messaging individual users to be spam (cluttering watchlists as well) and a method that is too often used to send notifications. They see it as chasing people away rather than increasing participation.
2017-03-30 8:40 GMT+02:00 Ad Huikeshoven ad@huikeshoven.org:
Hi Robin,
Could you be more specific about the grounds for complaining?
Ad Huikeshoven
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Robin Pepermans robinp.1273@gmail.com wrote:
Be cautious with using the method of personally inviting many users on their talk pages. I started doing so on the Dutch Wikipedia and I immediately got two of them complaining about it.
Regards, Robin
2017-03-25 4:20 GMT+01:00 Samuel Guebo samuelguebo@gmail.com:
It was a very clever approach using the bot. I thought of it too but did know how to get the most active folks. I guess your query was the missing piece. With this new piece of information I might use my bot for reaching out to active users in inter-wikis.
Thank you very much Chico.
Samuel GUEBO, GLAM-WIKI coordinator in Côte d'Ivoire
Sent from my Asus Zenfone 5, excuse the brevity. Le 25 mars 2017 01:57, "Chico Venancio" chicocvenancio@gmail.com a écrit :
Thanks Samuel for the tips, The documentation of your work helped me in a few points (again).
In particular, my message did not include many links with information on the process, I've added that for the invites I'm still making.
Congrats on your use of Wikiscan, I did not remember that tool and used quarry queries https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/17537 to get the information.. I also used a bot to make the bulk of the invites, which allowed me to personalize each message with the number of edits the editor made in the last 30 days and his position on the most active contributor on the project in that time.
I used PAWS to run the bot, if anyone needs assistance setting something similar I'm available to help.
Cheers,
Chico Venancio
2017-03-23 23:17 GMT-03:00 Jaime Anstee janstee@wikimedia.org:
Thank you, Samuel, for sharing your experience. Indeed,direct messages can have a big impact on responsiveness.
Glad you are sharing mire broadly!
Best,
Jaime
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM Samuel Guebo samuelguebo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just wanted to share some tips that I learned these days for engaging more people in the strategy discussions. Most of them were suggested to me by contributors during discussions on village pumps. They might maybe help some of you too.
Till Tuesday there was only 1 comment left on the discussion page for the French Wikipedia. Inter-wikis such as wikiversity (fr) and wikisource (fr) were even more active. Two days later there are over 20 folks debating in the French Wikipedia.
Below are some of the tips that helped me:
- Switch from posting on village pumps only to posting on village
pumps AND on talk pages of active members. You may find active users with the wikiscan tool (eg: most active users in Spanish wikipedia during February http://es.wikiscan.org/date/201703/users)
- Specify in the message that you leave on talk pages of active
usres that their opinion really matters no matter if they are sysop or just doing spelling check.
- Include in your message few links explaining the context, the
overall process, and the FAQ
- I translated, into English, the template message that I used
when inviting contributors individually. You will find it here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Outreach/French_Wikipedia#John74.2C_you_too.2C_join_the_discussion_for_the_future.27s_movement
If you guys have any other tips that worked for you please, I would love to hear them, especially how you get volunteers to help you summarize discussions.
Cheers,
*_______________________________________________________*
*Samuel Guebo*
*Creative Director **at E-voir http://e-voir.net/*
*GLAM-WIKI Coordinator in Côte d'IvoireVice-chair of Wikimedia Community User Group Côte d'Ivoire (WCUG-CI)*
*(225) 77 34 17 21 <77%2034%2017%2021> / 40 27 28 37 <40%2027%2028%2037>**Join me on : Facebook http://facebook.com./samuel.guebo / Twitter http://twitter.com/samuelguebo / Blog http://samuelguebo.co* _______________________________________________ Strategy mailing list Strategy@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/strategy
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Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org https://donate.wikimedia.org/*
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