forwarding to the list, per Tilman
On Oct 24, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Dario,
it might be best to send this kind of thing directly to the social media list (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media , which has an ongoing thread about RT suggestions), so that it doesn't fall through the cracks in case Katherine and I are too busy...
2014-10-23 8:12 GMT-07:00 Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org:
@Wikipedia RT material? It’s based on WIkidata
2014-10-23 8:12 GMT-07:00 Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org :
@Wikipedia RT material? It’s based on WIkidata
Heck yes! But I think we should pull way back on the retweeting (especially of our own channels) and write our own tweets with @ or # connections. Save retweets for people very separated from us or unique language (quote-like). Can we include the image in the tweet? Share on Facebook?
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I would love to see us doing that -- I think it speaks to some of the issues we've talked about internally around originality and the opportunity to create a more consistent "voice" for the account!
That said, I think we may want to put this on the shelf of "things we should definitely be doing, but holding off until next quarter" -- given how short staffed we are on the comms team, it'd be hard to assign that responsibility to any one person at the moment.
As we all know, social media, done effectively, is a lot of work (I know I sent this around internally as a bit of a joke before, but it's worth a read: http://www.businessinsider.com/huge-social-media-manager-does-all-day-2014-5). I think as a whole, we're doing a good job now -- there's a lot of space to make it even better -- but even rewriting tweets like these probably takes someone 20 minutes to do it well (read the article, find the nugget of interest/pull quote, craft the tweet). I suggest we put this -- and the public domain images issue -- on the list for great things to do in Q3. What do you all think?
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Heather Walls hwalls@wikimedia.org wrote:
2014-10-23 8:12 GMT-07:00 Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org
:
@Wikipedia RT material? It’s based on WIkidata
Heck yes! But I think we should pull way back on the retweeting (especially of our own channels) and write our own tweets with @ or # connections. Save retweets for people very separated from us or unique language (quote-like). Can we include the image in the tweet? Share on Facebook?
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Sounds good to me.
Maybe we could find an intern to just draft tweets /SM posts for Q3?
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
I would love to see us doing that -- I think it speaks to some of the issues we've talked about internally around originality and the opportunity to create a more consistent "voice" for the account!
That said, I think we may want to put this on the shelf of "things we should definitely be doing, but holding off until next quarter" -- given how short staffed we are on the comms team, it'd be hard to assign that responsibility to any one person at the moment.
As we all know, social media, done effectively, is a lot of work (I know I sent this around internally as a bit of a joke before, but it's worth a read: http://www.businessinsider.com/huge-social-media-manager-does-all-day-2014-5). I think as a whole, we're doing a good job now -- there's a lot of space to make it even better -- but even rewriting tweets like these probably takes someone 20 minutes to do it well (read the article, find the nugget of interest/pull quote, craft the tweet). I suggest we put this -- and the public domain images issue -- on the list for great things to do in Q3. What do you all think?
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Heather Walls hwalls@wikimedia.org wrote:
2014-10-23 8:12 GMT-07:00 Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org
:
@Wikipedia RT material? It’s based on WIkidata
Heck yes! But I think we should pull way back on the retweeting (especially of our own channels) and write our own tweets with @ or # connections. Save retweets for people very separated from us or unique language (quote-like). Can we include the image in the tweet? Share on Facebook?
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-- Heather Walls Communications Design Manager WikimediaFoundation.org heather@wikimedia.org
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Katherine Maher Chief Communications Officer Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA 94105
+1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635 +1 (415) 712 4873 kmaher@wikimedia.org
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Yes. I want an army of interns!
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Victor Grigas vgrigas@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sounds good to me.
Maybe we could find an intern to just draft tweets /SM posts for Q3?
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
I would love to see us doing that -- I think it speaks to some of the issues we've talked about internally around originality and the opportunity to create a more consistent "voice" for the account!
That said, I think we may want to put this on the shelf of "things we should definitely be doing, but holding off until next quarter" -- given how short staffed we are on the comms team, it'd be hard to assign that responsibility to any one person at the moment.
As we all know, social media, done effectively, is a lot of work (I know I sent this around internally as a bit of a joke before, but it's worth a read: http://www.businessinsider.com/huge-social-media-manager-does-all-day-2014-5). I think as a whole, we're doing a good job now -- there's a lot of space to make it even better -- but even rewriting tweets like these probably takes someone 20 minutes to do it well (read the article, find the nugget of interest/pull quote, craft the tweet). I suggest we put this -- and the public domain images issue -- on the list for great things to do in Q3. What do you all think?
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Heather Walls hwalls@wikimedia.org wrote:
2014-10-23 8:12 GMT-07:00 Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org>:
@Wikipedia RT material? It’s based on WIkidata
Heck yes! But I think we should pull way back on the retweeting (especially of our own channels) and write our own tweets with @ or # connections. Save retweets for people very separated from us or unique language (quote-like). Can we include the image in the tweet? Share on Facebook?
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Yes, as Katherine said, this is first and foremost a resourcing issue. Most often, the decision isn't been a RT and a beautifully crafted and carefully voiced tweet of our own which also vetted regarding our standards of respecting CC image licensing, but between a RT and nothing at all. When I started pushing for us to do more RTs and to invite RT suggestions from outside the SM team, it was based on the realization that a lot of important or interesting news from across the movement were simply lacking entirely from @wikipedia.
Case in point: It seems that no one has found those 20 minutes yet to craft a new tweet for Dario's link, and I know we are all super busy currently. So I propose to just go ahead with the RT from @wikipedia for now.
And while I agree we should move away from automatic retweeting between @wikipedia and @wikimedia (we already did to some extent in recent weeks), I disagree about avoiding RTs of our own channels altogether. When the subject is of interest to more than one audience, RTs make sense, and also we should use the popularity of @wikipedia to help our smaller accounts gain followers among their target audience. Admittedly I'm biased in this case because I'm running @wikiresearch together with Dario ;)
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
I would love to see us doing that -- I think it speaks to some of the issues we've talked about internally around originality and the opportunity to create a more consistent "voice" for the account!
That said, I think we may want to put this on the shelf of "things we should definitely be doing, but holding off until next quarter" -- given how short staffed we are on the comms team, it'd be hard to assign that responsibility to any one person at the moment.
As we all know, social media, done effectively, is a lot of work (I know I sent this around internally as a bit of a joke before, but it's worth a read: http://www.businessinsider.com/huge-social-media-manager-does-all-day-2014-5). I think as a whole, we're doing a good job now -- there's a lot of space to make it even better -- but even rewriting tweets like these probably takes someone 20 minutes to do it well (read the article, find the nugget of interest/pull quote, craft the tweet). I suggest we put this -- and the public domain images issue -- on the list for great things to do in Q3. What do you all think?
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Heather Walls hwalls@wikimedia.org wrote:
2014-10-23 8:12 GMT-07:00 Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org:
@Wikipedia RT material? It’s based on WIkidata
Heck yes! But I think we should pull way back on the retweeting (especially of our own channels) and write our own tweets with @ or # connections. Save retweets for people very separated from us or unique language (quote-like). Can we include the image in the tweet? Share on Facebook?
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Heather Walls Communications Design Manager WikimediaFoundation.org heather@wikimedia.org
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Katherine Maher Chief Communications Officer Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA 94105
+1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635 +1 (415) 712 4873 kmaher@wikimedia.org
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Just RT-ed from @Wikipedia
https://twitter.com/WikiResearch/status/525303032091652096
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
Yes, as Katherine said, this is first and foremost a resourcing issue. Most often, the decision isn't been a RT and a beautifully crafted and carefully voiced tweet of our own which also vetted regarding our standards of respecting CC image licensing, but between a RT and nothing at all. When I started pushing for us to do more RTs and to invite RT suggestions from outside the SM team, it was based on the realization that a lot of important or interesting news from across the movement were simply lacking entirely from @wikipedia.
Case in point: It seems that no one has found those 20 minutes yet to craft a new tweet for Dario's link, and I know we are all super busy currently. So I propose to just go ahead with the RT from @wikipedia for now.
And while I agree we should move away from automatic retweeting between @wikipedia and @wikimedia (we already did to some extent in recent weeks), I disagree about avoiding RTs of our own channels altogether. When the subject is of interest to more than one audience, RTs make sense, and also we should use the popularity of @wikipedia to help our smaller accounts gain followers among their target audience. Admittedly I'm biased in this case because I'm running @wikiresearch together with Dario ;)
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
I would love to see us doing that -- I think it speaks to some of the
issues
we've talked about internally around originality and the opportunity to create a more consistent "voice" for the account!
That said, I think we may want to put this on the shelf of "things we
should
definitely be doing, but holding off until next quarter" -- given how
short
staffed we are on the comms team, it'd be hard to assign that
responsibility
to any one person at the moment.
As we all know, social media, done effectively, is a lot of work (I know
I
sent this around internally as a bit of a joke before, but it's worth a read:
http://www.businessinsider.com/huge-social-media-manager-does-all-day-2014-5 ).
I think as a whole, we're doing a good job now -- there's a lot of space
to
make it even better -- but even rewriting tweets like these probably
takes
someone 20 minutes to do it well (read the article, find the nugget of interest/pull quote, craft the tweet). I suggest we put this -- and the public domain images issue -- on the list for great things to do in Q3.
What
do you all think?
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Heather Walls hwalls@wikimedia.org
wrote:
2014-10-23 8:12 GMT-07:00 Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org:
@Wikipedia RT material? It’s based on WIkidata
Heck yes! But I think we should pull way back on the retweeting (especially of our own channels) and write our own tweets with @ or # connections. Save retweets for people very separated from us or unique language (quote-like). Can we include the image in the tweet? Share on Facebook?
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-- Heather Walls Communications Design Manager WikimediaFoundation.org heather@wikimedia.org
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Katherine Maher Chief Communications Officer Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA 94105
+1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635 +1 (415) 712 4873 kmaher@wikimedia.org
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On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org wrote:
I would love to see us doing that -- I think it speaks to some of the issues we've talked about internally around originality and the opportunity to create a more consistent "voice" for the account!
That said, I think we may want to put this on the shelf of "things we should definitely be doing, but holding off until next quarter" -- given how short staffed we are on the comms team, it'd be hard to assign that responsibility to any one person at the moment.
Very true! I'm just keeping the dream alive. ;P
As we all know, social media, done effectively, is a lot of work (I know I sent this around internally as a bit of a joke before, but it's worth a read: http://www.businessinsider.com/huge-social-media-manager-does-all-day-2014-5). I think as a whole, we're doing a good job now -- there's a lot of space to make it even better -- but even rewriting tweets like these probably takes someone 20 minutes to do it well (read the article, find the nugget of interest/pull quote, craft the tweet). I suggest we put this -- and the public domain images issue -- on the list for great things to do in Q3. What do you all think?
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Heather Walls hwalls@wikimedia.org wrote:
2014-10-23 8:12 GMT-07:00 Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org
:
@Wikipedia RT material? It’s based on WIkidata
Heck yes! But I think we should pull way back on the retweeting (especially of our own channels) and write our own tweets with @ or # connections. Save retweets for people very separated from us or unique language (quote-like). Can we include the image in the tweet? Share on Facebook?
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Heather Walls Communications Design Manager WikimediaFoundation.org heather@wikimedia.org
Social-media mailing list Social-media@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media
-- Katherine Maher Chief Communications Officer Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street San Francisco, CA 94105
+1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635 +1 (415) 712 4873 kmaher@wikimedia.org
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