This is cool, Jan! I’m actually writing my bachelor’s thesis about Wikipedia’s response to breaking news — this is really interesting.

Joe

On 7 January 2015 at 9:25:15 pm, Jan Ainali (jan.ainali@wikimedia.se) wrote:

You don't have this on a large screen in the office? ;)

(although its stability seem to be a bit low right now)

http://wikipedia-live-monitor.herokuapp.com/

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2015-01-07 21:07 GMT+01:00 Heather Walls hwalls@wikimedia.org: We totally agree! And your help in identifying those will make it possible.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: It would be really cool if we could proactively use our social media presence to cover Wikimedia’s response to breaking news events [1], especially given the attention WMF put on major events in Victor’s video. I see potential POV issues with the choice of what topics to cover, but we’re missing a huge opportunity when we don’t celebrate in a timely way what Wikimedians are accomplishing.

Dario

[1] https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/552873236598243328

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Either works, I think, assuming Dario’s alright with us pilfering his wordage.

Joe

On 7 January 2015 at 9:53:44 pm, Michael Guss (mguss@wikimedia.org) wrote:

I agree - can we RT Dario's tweet - or, use the same copy to tweet with the English Wikipedia version?

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Joe Sutherland jsutherland@wikimedia.org wrote: This is cool, Jan! I’m actually writing my bachelor’s thesis about Wikipedia’s response to breaking news — this is really interesting.

Joe

On 7 January 2015 at 9:25:15 pm, Jan Ainali (jan.ainali@wikimedia.se) wrote:

You don't have this on a large screen in the office? ;)

(although its stability seem to be a bit low right now)

http://wikipedia-live-monitor.herokuapp.com/

Read more about it here: http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/wikipedia-live-monitor-breaking-ne...

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2015-01-07 21:07 GMT+01:00 Heather Walls hwalls@wikimedia.org: We totally agree! And your help in identifying those will make it possible.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: It would be really cool if we could proactively use our social media presence to cover Wikimedia’s response to breaking news events [1], especially given the attention WMF put on major events in Victor’s video. I see potential POV issues with the choice of what topics to cover, but we’re missing a huge opportunity when we don’t celebrate in a timely way what Wikimedians are accomplishing.

Dario

[1] https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/552873236598243328

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That’s a very good point of course, Charles. We do need to frame this toward the event and not toward Wikipedia itself to avoid that particular pitfall.

Joe

On 7 January 2015 at 9:57:17 pm, Charles Gregory (wmau.lists@chuq.net) wrote:

Great idea Dario - I occasionally schedule posts for known events (such as elections, major sporting events, or national holidays) - but breaking news - such as the Sydney siege - I held off, in case it looked like an attempt to take advantage of a tragic event for self promotion.

Having said that, the (traditional) news organisations do it all the time...

Jan - that URL gives an Application Error?

Charles / User:Chuq Wikimedia Australia

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: It would be really cool if we could proactively use our social media presence to cover Wikimedia’s response to breaking news events [1], especially given the attention WMF put on major events in Victor’s video. I see potential POV issues with the choice of what topics to cover, but we’re missing a huge opportunity when we don’t celebrate in a timely way what Wikimedians are accomplishing.

Dario

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Hello everyone,

Following up on this:

https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/552873236598243328

t: Wikipedia coverage of the #charliehebdo shooting is now available in 26 languages. First edit was 1h after the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:

2015-01-07 22:57 GMT+01:00 Charles Gregory wmau.lists@chuq.net:

...

Jan - that URL gives an Application Error?

Yeah, today it seem to do that more than 90% of the times I try to load it (hence the comment on stability).

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Katherine and Juliet, is this ok with you guys? There has not been a precedent sent for us to go by.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:

This looks good to me.

Note you’ll have to drop one character to make it fit on Twitter.

I also recommend using the same copy for FB and Google+ for now, in the interest of time.

In general, I support the idea of responding more often to news events like these, to make our content and movement more relevant to people’s daily lives. I hope we can make this happen both on social media and on the blog, going forward.

Kudos to Dario for this excellent suggestion!

Fabrice

On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Michael Guss mguss@wikimedia.org wrote:

Hello everyone,

Following up on this:

https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/552873236598243328

t: Wikipedia coverage of the #charliehebdo shooting is now available in 26 languages. First edit was 1h after the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:

...

2015-01-07 22:57 GMT+01:00 Charles Gregory wmau.lists@chuq.net:

...

Jan - that URL gives an Application Error?

Yeah, today it seem to do that more than 90% of the times I try to load it (hence the comment on stability).

/Jan

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oh, and the first edit was to the French Wikipedia, so it might be weird to link to the enwp article

On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:

\o/

just note that as we speak there are articles in 37 languages

...

On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Fabrice Florin <fflorin@wikimedia.org mailto:fflorin@wikimedia.org> wrote:

This looks good to me.

Note you’ll have to drop one character to make it fit on Twitter.

I also recommend using the same copy for FB and Google+ for now, in the interest of time.

In general, I support the idea of responding more often to news events like these, to make our content and movement more relevant to people’s daily lives. I hope we can make this happen both on social media and on the blog, going forward.

Kudos to Dario for this excellent suggestion!

Fabrice

...

On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Michael Guss <mguss@wikimedia.org mailto:mguss@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Hello everyone,

Following up on this:

https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/552873236598243328 https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/552873236598243328

t: Wikipedia coverage of the #charliehebdo shooting is now available in 26 languages. First edit was 1h after the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Jan Ainali <jan.ainali@wikimedia.se mailto:jan.ainali@wikimedia.se> wrote: 2015-01-07 22:57 GMT+01:00 Charles Gregory <wmau.lists@chuq.net mailto:wmau.lists@chuq.net>:

Jan - that URL gives an Application Error?

Yeah, today it seem to do that more than 90% of the times I try to load it (hence the comment on stability).

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Hi Victor,

I very much agree to 1-6.

7.) I'd say we should time the tweeting / messaging of current events to remind readers that they can edit the projects, and point them to appropriate 'how to get started' guides. There are other appropriate ways to guide the eyeballs we grab - fundraising, meetups, etc.

I'm not sure how timing relates to reminding about editing, but I could be misreading you. I also have misgivings about pointing to 'how to get started' guides because most of them are overwhelming. I do agree about pointing people to things -- talking about where to learn to edit in person, etc. I suppose we'd have to be careful about giving voice equally in the world and to various events.

Curious to hear other's thoughts.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:

...

oh, and the first edit was to the French Wikipedia, so it might be weird to link to the enwp article

On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:

\o/

just note that as we speak there are articles in 37 languages

On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Fabrice Florin fflorin@wikimedia.org wrote:

This looks good to me.

Note you’ll have to drop one character to make it fit on Twitter.

I also recommend using the same copy for FB and Google+ for now, in the interest of time.

In general, I support the idea of responding more often to news events like these, to make our content and movement more relevant to people’s daily lives. I hope we can make this happen both on social media and on the blog, going forward.

Kudos to Dario for this excellent suggestion!

Fabrice

On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Michael Guss mguss@wikimedia.org wrote:

Hello everyone,

Following up on this:

https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/552873236598243328

t: Wikipedia coverage of the #charliehebdo shooting is now available in 26 languages. First edit was 1h after the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:

...

2015-01-07 22:57 GMT+01:00 Charles Gregory wmau.lists@chuq.net:

...

Jan - that URL gives an Application Error?

Yeah, today it seem to do that more than 90% of the times I try to load it (hence the comment on stability).

/Jan

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On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Victor Grigas vgrigas@wikimedia.org wrote:

Thanks for your good insights, Victor and Heather!

In coming weeks, we hope to start an outreach about the editorial strategy for the blog, which could include some of your thoughtful questions below.

It all starts with the users: who do we want to reach and are what their needs?

Because our community is so diverse, we are juggling different priorities, and will want to discuss the tradeoffs between broad reach and deep engagement with ‘vertical’ user groups.

My hunch is that readers and casual editors would most likely enjoy more breaking news coverage. But active Wikimedians have different needs for movement news, and developers probably want more tech news. The challenge is how to effectively serve these user groups with our limited resources.

My hope is that the upcoming outreach can help answer some of these questions, so we can make more informed decisions together.

Look forward to continuing this discussion!

Fabrice

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Heather Walls <hwalls@wikimedia.org mailto:hwalls@wikimedia.org> wrote: Hi Victor,

I very much agree to 1-6.

7.) I'd say we should time the tweeting / messaging of current events to remind readers that they can edit the projects, and point them to appropriate 'how to get started' guides. There are other appropriate ways to guide the eyeballs we grab - fundraising, meetups, etc.

I'm not sure how timing relates to reminding about editing, but I could be misreading you. I also have misgivings about pointing to 'how to get started' guides because most of them are overwhelming. I do agree about pointing people to things -- talking about where to learn to edit in person, etc. I suppose we'd have to be careful about giving voice equally in the world and to various events.

I think what I'm saying is that we can use traffic from current events to highlight other things that are related or unrelated to those events in separate but well-timed posts.

FF: Yes, I think separate messages on how to edit make sense, from time to time. Though I agree with Heather’s concern that our current editing guides are overwhelming for new users. So perhaps we could work with others to simplify the guidelines in the long-term, and regularly tweet about them once they are in better shape.

On Jan 8, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Victor Grigas vgrigas@wikimedia.org wrote:

I think that this is something to discuss. I really like the idea of current events, because it puts us right into the global conversation about an event, secures us (brand) as a news source and then we can fork eyeballs from that initial message towards other messages.

I think:

1.) If we do push current events we need an editorial policy. It's one thing to want big numbers of eyeballs, but we need to do it within a framework so that we can avoid problems. I think the NPOV and 'WMF doesn't control content' will be useful guidelines for this.

2.) We should start slow and paced (maybe 1 post per week or day) and scale from there. There is a learning curve for our understanding and it would be good to not go too fast.

3.) Part of 'slow and paced' is also to think about region(s) and languages.

4.) Let the data drive what we publish, meaning Dario could point to the (insert superlative here) article and we could tailor the message around it.

5.) After the data 'decides for us' we decide if we want our message to be a simple message like a tweet with a link to a WP article, or if it deserves more research and coverage like a blog post. I think that most messages will be simple tweets, but some may deserve more background, which we may have content for already or would be able to generate such content.

6.) Part of the editorial policy will be to decide if certain messages will be cut regardless of their traffic. I could imagine all kinds of scenarios where we wouldn't want to be pushing particular things.

7.) I'd say we should time the tweeting / messaging of current events to remind readers that they can edit the projects, and point them to appropriate 'how to get started' guides. There are other appropriate ways to guide the eyeballs we grab - fundraising, meetups, etc.

Curious to hear other's thoughts.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org mailto:dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote: oh, and the first edit was to the French Wikipedia, so it might be weird to link to the enwp article

...

On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org mailto:dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:

\o/

just note that as we speak there are articles in 37 languages

...

On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Fabrice Florin <fflorin@wikimedia.org mailto:fflorin@wikimedia.org> wrote:

This looks good to me.

Note you’ll have to drop one character to make it fit on Twitter.

I also recommend using the same copy for FB and Google+ for now, in the interest of time.

In general, I support the idea of responding more often to news events like these, to make our content and movement more relevant to people’s daily lives. I hope we can make this happen both on social media and on the blog, going forward.

Kudos to Dario for this excellent suggestion!

Fabrice

...

On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Michael Guss <mguss@wikimedia.org mailto:mguss@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Hello everyone,

Following up on this:

https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/552873236598243328 https://twitter.com/ReaderMeter/status/552873236598243328

t: Wikipedia coverage of the #charliehebdo shooting is now available in 26 languages. First edit was 1h after the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

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Jan - that URL gives an Application Error?

Yeah, today it seem to do that more than 90% of the times I try to load it (hence the comment on stability).

/Jan

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