There might have been some confusion about whether the email below was
a request for access or a suggestion for process (or both).
Lewis has requested SVN access, and no one has appeared to object.
Could one of the current committers weigh in with a "+1" for Lewis if
you approve, and anyone who objects speak now or hold your peace?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lewis Cawte <lewiscawte(a)googlemail.com>
Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Pywikipedia-l] Commit access requests
To: Pywikipedia discussion list <pywikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
So, I've been talking to robla, Multichil and briefly betacommand on
IRC today, and here are some of the ideas we came up (while talking
about me possibly requesting commit to pywikipediabot) with, full logs
Be active on the IRC channel or mailing list and have submitted a few
good patches via Sourceforge or other methods.
Keep it flexible, don't get strict on commit access, we haven't been
up before. It'd be nice to see a flow of new developers.
Gained community consensus via the mailing list. "The request for
commit access can be simultaneous with the mail to the mailing list"
These are just ideas, and of course, can still be expanded or fine-tuned.
Basicly, if I get consensus from this post on my request for commit,
I'll submit a request for commit access via the correct email address.
As you'll see in the logs below, I'm basicly interested at this point
in time in maintaining the non-WMF family files in the SVN, and
working on the i18n translation that I hear you guys are planning to
work on rather soon. As a member of the translatewiki.net
an active user of pywikipediabot, I think it'd be nice to help out
I've submitted a few patches via IRC before which have been commited,
and been active in the community, in the IRC channel and have probably
posted to the mailing lists (don't have time to dig that up now) a few
times, despite being subscribed for a long time.
[16:52:22] <Lcawte> robla: so, any news on pybot commit? What are the
ideas so far? I've only seen the mailing list ones
[16:53:18] <robla> Lcawte: so, in this case, I think I'll ask the
person asking for access to say "hi" on the mailing list
[16:53:36] <robla> as for a generalized process, I'm not sure
[16:53:40] <Lcawte> Hm...
[16:54:27] <robla> (to be clear, asking him to say "hi" and not
granting svn access yet)
[16:57:13] <Delta> robla: Id probably not grant access
[17:04:55] <Lcawte> Delta: any idea of what you'd like to see as
requirements for pybot commit?
[17:07:18] <Delta> Lcawte: several good patches and active with either
the mailing list/bug system/ or this channel
[17:07:24] <Multichil> Lcawte : Do you want access?
[17:10:13] <Lcawte> Active in this channel, thats mainly bots and the
odd occasional person when someone shows up for help
[17:10:20] <Lcawte> Multichil: yeah :P
[17:10:42] <Multichil> Anything in particulair? Maybe getting it translated?
[17:11:52] <Lcawte> I'd be happy to help whoever else wants to work on
that as well, yeah, maintaining family files, I've submitted a few
minor patches, if that means a few lines of code changed, one fixed a
script completely, the other added mainly Wikia support to a script
[17:12:07] <Lcawte> (the patches were through this channel)
[17:13:40] <Multichil> Lcawte : Next week we're planning on adding
pywikipedia to translatewiki :-) That's why I'm asking
[17:14:07] <Multichil> You're not a totall strange to the community so why not?
[17:14:40] <Lcawte> I know a few people are interesting with helping
with that, so I'll be around and offering to help if people want
[17:14:47] <Multichil> We've never been really strict, no need to
become strict now
[17:14:57] <Lcawte> I think Siebrand is interested in helping with it
as well, not sure though
[17:15:25] <Multichil> He will also be there, Gerard too
[17:15:42] <Multichil> http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon#Mensen
[17:16:17] <Lcawte> Thank goodness, because someone needs commit to
extensions so they can commit the Translate config
[17:23:10] <Lcawte> Multichil, robla, what do you recommend, as there
is no vetting procedure currently in place, start a post on the
mailing list and if theres a fair consensus, request it?
[17:24:19] <robla> Lcawte: that sounds good to me
[17:24:28] <Multichil> robla : Don't bother, just give him access ;-)
[17:24:31] <Lcawte> lol
[17:24:57] <Multichil> Too much red tape with the same end result anyway
[17:27:01] <Lcawte> The only problem with requesting it, is I have to
get past Tim, I think he has auto-deny on my requests, or atleast with
extensions lol... I get he would like some decent lines of code from
me and all, but its kinda getting a pain in the butt not having it for
and stuff... (MediaWiki r79535, r79534, 79533 and
79531... and theres another one earlier than that..
[17:51:22] <robla> so, I don't know any of the history here. I like
what Lcawte is suggesting with maybe one minor tweak. the request for
commit access can be simultaneous with the mail to the mailing list
[17:53:42] <robla> Tim's concern last time I spoke to him about this
was just that he just didn't have a good sense of the pywikipediabot
community, so it was tough for him to make the call
[17:55:46] <Lcawte> Mm, kinda like my discussion about pybot commit
for my first extensions commit request
[17:56:52] <Lcawte> I wonder, what family files are out of date... :/
[18:01:51] <Lcawte> [17:59:34] <Lcawte> Hm, the i18n family needs
updating.. its missing a namespace or two, I know it is, because I
added one yesterday :P
[18:13:53] <Lcawte> Well, theres more than one out of date family file :|
[18:20:41] <Lcawte> robla: shall I email these ideas to the list?
[18:21:08] <robla> Lcawte: yeah, that'd be great
On 30/12/10 23:57, Rob Lanphier wrote:
We're cleaning out the commit access request queue, and came upon a
request for commit access to pywikipediabot. Two questions:
1. How should we generally vet these requests?
2. The access request is from this person:
Any objections to granting access for this person?
I'm "robla" on IRC, and I'm currently camped out in #pywikipediabot if
you'd like to ping me to discuss further.
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