Hi everyone,
There might have been some confusion about whether the email below was a request for access or a suggestion for process (or both).
Lewis has requested SVN access, and no one has appeared to object. Could one of the current committers weigh in with a "+1" for Lewis if you approve, and anyone who objects speak now or hold your peace?
Rob ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lewis Cawte lewiscawte@googlemail.com Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Pywikipedia-l] Commit access requests To: Pywikipedia discussion list pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
So, I've been talking to robla, Multichil and briefly betacommand on IRC today, and here are some of the ideas we came up (while talking about me possibly requesting commit to pywikipediabot) with, full logs below that...
Be active on the IRC channel or mailing list and have submitted a few good patches via Sourceforge or other methods. Keep it flexible, don't get strict on commit access, we haven't been up before. It'd be nice to see a flow of new developers. Gained community consensus via the mailing list. "The request for commit access can be simultaneous with the mail to the mailing list"
These are just ideas, and of course, can still be expanded or fine-tuned.
-- My Request
Basicly, if I get consensus from this post on my request for commit, I'll submit a request for commit access via the correct email address. As you'll see in the logs below, I'm basicly interested at this point in time in maintaining the non-WMF family files in the SVN, and working on the i18n translation that I hear you guys are planning to work on rather soon. As a member of the translatewiki.net staff, and an active user of pywikipediabot, I think it'd be nice to help out there.
I've submitted a few patches via IRC before which have been commited, and been active in the community, in the IRC channel and have probably posted to the mailing lists (don't have time to dig that up now) a few times, despite being subscribed for a long time.
-- IRC Logs
[16:52:22] <Lcawte> robla: so, any news on pybot commit? What are the ideas so far? I've only seen the mailing list ones [16:53:18] <robla> Lcawte: so, in this case, I think I'll ask the person asking for access to say "hi" on the mailing list [16:53:36] <robla> as for a generalized process, I'm not sure [16:53:40] <Lcawte> Hm... [16:54:27] <robla> (to be clear, asking him to say "hi" and not granting svn access yet) [16:57:13] <Delta> robla: Id probably not grant access [17:04:55] <Lcawte> Delta: any idea of what you'd like to see as requirements for pybot commit? [17:07:18] <Delta> Lcawte: several good patches and active with either the mailing list/bug system/ or this channel [17:07:24] <Multichil> Lcawte : Do you want access? [17:10:13] <Lcawte> Active in this channel, thats mainly bots and the odd occasional person when someone shows up for help [17:10:20] <Lcawte> Multichil: yeah :P [17:10:42] <Multichil> Anything in particulair? Maybe getting it translated? [17:11:52] <Lcawte> I'd be happy to help whoever else wants to work on that as well, yeah, maintaining family files, I've submitted a few minor patches, if that means a few lines of code changed, one fixed a script completely, the other added mainly Wikia support to a script (timestamps) [17:12:07] <Lcawte> (the patches were through this channel) [17:13:40] <Multichil> Lcawte : Next week we're planning on adding pywikipedia to translatewiki :-) That's why I'm asking [17:14:07] <Multichil> You're not a totall strange to the community so why not? [17:14:40] <Lcawte> I know a few people are interesting with helping with that, so I'll be around and offering to help if people want [17:14:47] <Multichil> We've never been really strict, no need to become strict now [17:14:57] <Lcawte> I think Siebrand is interested in helping with it as well, not sure though [17:15:25] <Multichil> He will also be there, Gerard too [17:15:42] <Multichil> http://nl.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon#Mensen [17:16:17] <Lcawte> Thank goodness, because someone needs commit to extensions so they can commit the Translate config [17:23:10] <Lcawte> Multichil, robla, what do you recommend, as there is no vetting procedure currently in place, start a post on the mailing list and if theres a fair consensus, request it? [17:24:19] <robla> Lcawte: that sounds good to me [17:24:28] <Multichil> robla : Don't bother, just give him access ;-) [17:24:31] <Lcawte> lol [17:24:57] <Multichil> Too much red tape with the same end result anyway [17:27:01] <Lcawte> The only problem with requesting it, is I have to get past Tim, I think he has auto-deny on my requests, or atleast with extensions lol... I get he would like some decent lines of code from me and all, but its kinda getting a pain in the butt not having it for translatewiki.net and stuff... (MediaWiki r79535, r79534, 79533 and 79531... and theres another one earlier than that.. [17:51:22] <robla> so, I don't know any of the history here. I like what Lcawte is suggesting with maybe one minor tweak. the request for commit access can be simultaneous with the mail to the mailing list [17:53:42] <robla> Tim's concern last time I spoke to him about this was just that he just didn't have a good sense of the pywikipediabot community, so it was tough for him to make the call [17:55:46] <Lcawte> Mm, kinda like my discussion about pybot commit for my first extensions commit request [17:56:52] <Lcawte> I wonder, what family files are out of date... :/ [18:01:51] <Lcawte> [17:59:34] <Lcawte> Hm, the i18n family needs updating.. its missing a namespace or two, I know it is, because I added one yesterday :P [18:13:53] <Lcawte> Well, theres more than one out of date family file :| [18:20:41] <Lcawte> robla: shall I email these ideas to the list? [18:21:08] <robla> Lcawte: yeah, that'd be great
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Thanks, Lewis Cawte
On 30/12/10 23:57, Rob Lanphier wrote:
Hi everyone,
We're cleaning out the commit access request queue, and came upon a request for commit access to pywikipediabot. Two questions: 1. How should we generally vet these requests? 2. The access request is from this person: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ebraminio Any objections to granting access for this person?
I'm "robla" on IRC, and I'm currently camped out in #pywikipediabot if you'd like to ping me to discuss further.
Thanks Rob
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Hi again,
For Lewis, I'll give the +1. Just one comment, though:
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From: Lewis Cawte lewiscawte@googlemail.com Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Pywikipedia-l] Commit access requests To: Pywikipedia discussion list pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org My Request
As you'll see in the logs below, I'm basicly interested at this point in time in maintaining the non-WMF family files in the SVN,
This would be nice. However, I'd like to see a cleanup of unnecessary family files - now we have got generate_family_file.py, I think a lot of files are no longer necessary.
and
working on the i18n translation that I hear you guys are planning to work on rather soon. As a member of the translatewiki.net staff, and an active user of pywikipediabot, I think it'd be nice to help out there.
Of course siebrand and roberthl already are contacts, but more help is always welcome :-)
Now, as a last comment:
On 30/12/10 23:57, Rob Lanphier wrote: 2. The access request is from this person: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ebraminio Any objections to granting access for this person?
The translation patches are OK, but this one most certainly is not: this patchhttps://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=93107&atid=603138&file_id=395844&aid=3135010 changes the license from GPL to MIT (!) without checking with the original author(s). Besides, there is no comment on what this actual change does ('hi, this a patch for providing support of links contains unicode character.I am used it and working well for me.') only decribes the end effect, not the reason it works. Especially when working with Unicode<->utf-8 translations, this is important - the current code looks like "We'll sprinkle some encode and decodes around and problems will magically be solved".
I haven't seen Ebraminio on the mailing list or IRC either - so no +1 for Ebraminio from me - at least: not yet.
Thanks, Merlijn https://sourceforge.net/users/ebraminio
Hello all!
What do I have to do in order to get SVN commit access?
I already asked a few times... :)
Thanks and Greetings Dr. Trigon
Am 22.01.2011 16:46, schrieb Merlijn van Deen:
Hi again,
For Lewis, I'll give the +1. Just one comment, though:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lewis Cawte <lewiscawte@googlemail.com <mailto:lewiscawte@googlemail.com>> Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Pywikipedia-l] Commit access requests To: Pywikipedia discussion list <pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>> My Request As you'll see in the logs below, I'm basicly interested at this point in time in maintaining the non-WMF family files in the SVN,This would be nice. However, I'd like to see a cleanup of unnecessary family files - now we have got generate_family_file.py, I think a lot of files are no longer necessary.
and working on the i18n translation that I hear you guys are planning to work on rather soon. As a member of the translatewiki.net <http://translatewiki.net> staff, and an active user of pywikipediabot, I think it'd be nice to help out there.Of course siebrand and roberthl already are contacts, but more help is always welcome :-)
Now, as a last comment:
On 30/12/10 23:57, Rob Lanphier wrote: 2. The access request is from this person: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ebraminio Any objections to granting access for this person?https://sourceforge.net/users/ebraminio The translation patches are OK, but this one most certainly is not: this patch https://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=93107&atid=603138&file_id=395844&aid=3135010 changes the license from GPL to MIT (!) without checking with the original author(s). Besides, there is no comment on what this actual change does ('hi, this a patch for providing support of links contains unicode character.I am used it and working well for me.') only decribes the end effect, not the reason it works. Especially when working with Unicode<->utf-8 translations, this is important - the current code looks like "We'll sprinkle some encode and decodes around and problems will magically be solved".
I haven't seen Ebraminio on the mailing list or IRC either - so no +1 for Ebraminio from me - at least: not yet.
Thanks, Merlijn https://sourceforge.net/users/ebraminio
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On 22/01/11 15:46, Merlijn van Deen wrote:
As you'll see in the logs below, I'm basicly interested at this point
in time in maintaining the non-WMF family files in the SVN,This would be nice. However, I'd like to see a cleanup of unnecessary family files - now we have got generate_family_file.py, I think a lot of files are no longer necessary.
I'm happy to help with this, as I know what we're looking to keep (per our discussion on IRC). :)
- Lewis Cawte
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