Hi everyone. After the great meeting that some of us had in Berlin, I'd like to ask again what can we do to revive the "signalling open access" project¹. For those who don't know it, the idea was to put an icon beside links in references, on Wikipedia, expressing * if it's behind a paywall * if it's free-to-read * if it's free to reuse
There are already great projects who find OA-versions of articles online, like Unpaywall² or Open Access Button³. All their code is open source and also the indexing of OA articles, so I'm sure there is room for collaboration.
I've also noticed that, right now, on Wikipedia, you can have a "subscription required" icon beside some references. Is someone involved in the that upgrade?
Aubrey
¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access/Signalling_O... ² http://unpaywall.org ³ https://openaccessbutton.org/
Hi Aubrey,
About the signalling: we have worked to integrate OA locks into the citation templates, so that people can signal which source or which identifier is free to read or behind a paywall.
For instance, in a {{cite journal}} template, you can use
|doi=10.4204/EPTCS.244.2|doi-access=free
to signal that this DOI is open access.
It is not clear if the broader Wikipedia community really wants this signalling however, so the project is stalled by the outcome of the following RFCs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_135... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_135...
About finding OA versions of papers, there is a proposal for a bot that would add OA links to citations (using the same metadata sources as unpaywall and the OA button): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/OAbot
Here is an example of the sort of edits it performs: https://tools.wmflabs.org/oabot/edits/2017-02-26T23:00:26.058245_765290719_A...
If anybody wants to get involved in the coding of this bot, that would be much appreciated. I can give access to the Git repo and the Tools lab account.
Pintoch
On 06/04/2017 10:14, Andrea Zanni wrote:
Hi everyone. After the great meeting that some of us had in Berlin, I'd like to ask again what can we do to revive the "signalling open access" project¹. For those who don't know it, the idea was to put an icon beside links in references, on Wikipedia, expressing
- if it's behind a paywall
- if it's free-to-read
- if it's free to reuse
There are already great projects who find OA-versions of articles online, like Unpaywall² or Open Access Button³. All their code is open source and also the indexing of OA articles, so I'm sure there is room for collaboration.
I've also noticed that, right now, on Wikipedia, you can have a "subscription required" icon beside some references. Is someone involved in the that upgrade?
Aubrey
¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access/Signalling_O... ² http://unpaywall.org ³ https://openaccessbutton.org/
OpenAccess mailing list OpenAccess@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess
Thanks both.
Yes, we should keep trying to move this forward, both by way of adding free-to-readness icons (as Antonin et al. are doing) and by importing into Wikisource as much as possible of the openly licensed literature, such that people become more aware of reusability.
Lots of past discussions on these topics, but not so much community enthusiasm overall. Latest example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Adding_a_license_pa... .
The "subscription required" icon is one of the oldest in this space: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Subscription_required&am...
Cheers, d.
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Antonin Delpeuch (lists) lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu wrote:
Hi Aubrey,
About the signalling: we have worked to integrate OA locks into the citation templates, so that people can signal which source or which identifier is free to read or behind a paywall.
For instance, in a {{cite journal}} template, you can use
|doi=10.4204/EPTCS.244.2|doi-access=free
to signal that this DOI is open access.
It is not clear if the broader Wikipedia community really wants this signalling however, so the project is stalled by the outcome of the following RFCs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_135... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_135...
About finding OA versions of papers, there is a proposal for a bot that would add OA links to citations (using the same metadata sources as unpaywall and the OA button): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/OAbot
Here is an example of the sort of edits it performs: https://tools.wmflabs.org/oabot/edits/2017-02-26T23:00:26.058245_765290719_A...
If anybody wants to get involved in the coding of this bot, that would be much appreciated. I can give access to the Git repo and the Tools lab account.
Pintoch
On 06/04/2017 10:14, Andrea Zanni wrote:
Hi everyone. After the great meeting that some of us had in Berlin, I'd like to ask again what can we do to revive the "signalling open access" project¹. For those who don't know it, the idea was to put an icon beside links in references, on Wikipedia, expressing
- if it's behind a paywall
- if it's free-to-read
- if it's free to reuse
There are already great projects who find OA-versions of articles online, like Unpaywall² or Open Access Button³. All their code is open source and also the indexing of OA articles, so I'm sure there is room for collaboration.
I've also noticed that, right now, on Wikipedia, you can have a "subscription required" icon beside some references. Is someone involved in the that upgrade?
Aubrey
¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access/Signalling_O... ² http://unpaywall.org ³ https://openaccessbutton.org/
OpenAccess mailing list OpenAccess@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess
OpenAccess mailing list OpenAccess@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess
I use the NYPL databases for press that is paywalled pretty consistently. The subscription required tag is long and unwieldy aesthetically (my opinion) so I have guiltily given up using it. I have been hoping for a better smarter icon so I'm very happy to support this effort in any way possible.
It's also frustrating to use DOI links and know they are paywalled -- but at least they usually populate the bibliographic info well in a Cite journal template. I would love there to be an icon there too.
I ran into this recently when I was updating Carla Hayden, the Librarian of Congress' en Wikipedia entry. I only got the scrubbing of the citations done -- haven't really added much additional content yet. Very dismaying so many library-related items are locked up. It might be a good example page seeing as Hayden is very high profile here in the U.S. -- and it would make an elegant OA case.... :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_Hayden
Just thinking out loud here.
I will Endorse whatever is proposed wholeheartedly. It can only be an improvement. And would reinforce support and arguments for Open Access. Love it!
Best,
- Erika
On Apr 6, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com wrote:
Thanks both.
Yes, we should keep trying to move this forward, both by way of adding free-to-readness icons (as Antonin et al. are doing) and by importing into Wikisource as much as possible of the openly licensed literature, such that people become more aware of reusability.
Lots of past discussions on these topics, but not so much community enthusiasm overall. Latest example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Citation_Style_1#Adding_a_license_pa... .
The "subscription required" icon is one of the oldest in this space: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Subscription_required&am...
Cheers, d.
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Antonin Delpeuch (lists) lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu wrote:
Hi Aubrey,
About the signalling: we have worked to integrate OA locks into the citation templates, so that people can signal which source or which identifier is free to read or behind a paywall.
For instance, in a {{cite journal}} template, you can use
|doi=10.4204/EPTCS.244.2|doi-access=free
to signal that this DOI is open access.
It is not clear if the broader Wikipedia community really wants this signalling however, so the project is stalled by the outcome of the following RFCs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_135... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_135...
About finding OA versions of papers, there is a proposal for a bot that would add OA links to citations (using the same metadata sources as unpaywall and the OA button): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/OAbot
Here is an example of the sort of edits it performs: https://tools.wmflabs.org/oabot/edits/2017-02-26T23:00:26.058245_765290719_A...
If anybody wants to get involved in the coding of this bot, that would be much appreciated. I can give access to the Git repo and the Tools lab account.
Pintoch
On 06/04/2017 10:14, Andrea Zanni wrote: Hi everyone. After the great meeting that some of us had in Berlin, I'd like to ask again what can we do to revive the "signalling open access" project¹. For those who don't know it, the idea was to put an icon beside links in references, on Wikipedia, expressing
- if it's behind a paywall
- if it's free-to-read
- if it's free to reuse
There are already great projects who find OA-versions of articles online, like Unpaywall² or Open Access Button³. All their code is open source and also the indexing of OA articles, so I'm sure there is room for collaboration.
I've also noticed that, right now, on Wikipedia, you can have a "subscription required" icon beside some references. Is someone involved in the that upgrade?
Aubrey
¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Open_Access/Signalling_O... ² http://unpaywall.org ³ https://openaccessbutton.org/
OpenAccess mailing list OpenAccess@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess
OpenAccess mailing list OpenAccess@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess
OpenAccess mailing list OpenAccess@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess
Thanks for starting this important conversation, Aubrey!
I'm interested in working on the repository end to make free to read content more visible to any future bots. Projects like Unpaywall often work well with PubMed and arXiv, but struggle to surface content in university repositories. This is largely an issue with repository infrastructure, but there is likely work to be done on both ends. Antonin and I have discussed this at length re:OABot, and it'd be great to work through these issues with other metadata-folk as well.
Megs
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Daniel Mietchen < daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com> wrote:
Thanks both.
Yes, we should keep trying to move this forward, both by way of adding free-to-readness icons (as Antonin et al. are doing) and by importing into Wikisource as much as possible of the openly licensed literature, such that people become more aware of reusability.
Lots of past discussions on these topics, but not so much community enthusiasm overall. Latest example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Citation_Style_1# Adding_a_license_parameter .
The "subscription required" icon is one of the oldest in this space: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template: Subscription_required&action=history
Cheers, d.
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Antonin Delpeuch (lists) lists@antonin.delpeuch.eu wrote:
Hi Aubrey,
About the signalling: we have worked to integrate OA locks into the citation templates, so that people can signal which source or which identifier is free to read or behind a paywall.
For instance, in a {{cite journal}} template, you can use
|doi=10.4204/EPTCS.244.2|doi-access=free
to signal that this DOI is open access.
It is not clear if the broader Wikipedia community really wants this signalling however, so the project is stalled by the outcome of the following RFCs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(
proposals)/Archive_135#Access_locks:_Visual_Design_RFC
proposals)/Archive_135#Access_Locks:_Citation_Template_Behaviour_RFC
About finding OA versions of papers, there is a proposal for a bot that would add OA links to citations (using the same metadata sources as unpaywall and the OA button): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/OAbot
Here is an example of the sort of edits it performs: https://tools.wmflabs.org/oabot/edits/2017-02-26T23:00:
26.058245_765290719_Autocorrelation.html
If anybody wants to get involved in the coding of this bot, that would be much appreciated. I can give access to the Git repo and the Tools lab account.
Pintoch
On 06/04/2017 10:14, Andrea Zanni wrote:
Hi everyone. After the great meeting that some of us had in Berlin, I'd like to ask again what can we do to revive the "signalling open access" project¹. For those who don't know it, the idea was to put an icon beside links in references, on Wikipedia, expressing
- if it's behind a paywall
- if it's free-to-read
- if it's free to reuse
There are already great projects who find OA-versions of articles online, like Unpaywall² or Open Access Button³. All their code is open source and also the indexing of OA articles, so I'm sure there is room for collaboration.
I've also noticed that, right now, on Wikipedia, you can have a "subscription required" icon beside some references. Is someone involved in the that upgrade?
Aubrey
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