At Wikimedia Conference in Berlin I met with Felix from Wikimedia Ghana, who is super interested in getting more immersive media available such as 360-degree panoramic photos ("photo spheres"); I showed him the tool labs widget using panellum to do WebGL spherical photo viewing -- see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70719#2204864 -- and he was very excited to see that it's something we could probably work out how to integrate in the nearish term.
That got me thinking more generally about new media types (video, panos, stereoscopic photos/videos/panos, 3D models, interactive diagrams, etc) and how we can extend them to support annotations and linking in a way that could create immersive visual experiences with the same kind of rich information and interlinking that Wikipedia is famous for in the world of text articles.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: "*Epic saga: immersive hypermedia (Myst for Wikipedia)*" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133526
I would be real interested to hear y'all's ideas on medium to long term feasibility and desirability of this sort of system, and what we can pull more directly into the short term.
For instance I would love to get the panoramic / spherical viewers integrated in MMV, which is much easier than figuring out how to do clickable annotations in 3d environment. ;)
Medium term, I would also love to see us look at the annotation system that's on Commons done in site JS, and see if we can build a future-extensible system that's more integrated into the wiki and can be used in MMV.
Longer term, I think it'll just be nice to have these kinds of long-term goals to work towards.
Thoughts? Ideas? Am I crazy, or just crazy enough? ;)
-- brion
I like it! Seems like a perfect idea to prototype at a hackathon!
In general, i think it's a shame that virtually all content on Wikipedia is text and images. We have so many opportunities to make interactive datavisualisations, videos, etcetera.
-- Hay
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
At Wikimedia Conference in Berlin I met with Felix from Wikimedia Ghana, who is super interested in getting more immersive media available such as 360-degree panoramic photos ("photo spheres"); I showed him the tool labs widget using panellum to do WebGL spherical photo viewing -- see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70719#2204864 -- and he was very excited to see that it's something we could probably work out how to integrate in the nearish term.
That got me thinking more generally about new media types (video, panos, stereoscopic photos/videos/panos, 3D models, interactive diagrams, etc) and how we can extend them to support annotations and linking in a way that could create immersive visual experiences with the same kind of rich information and interlinking that Wikipedia is famous for in the world of text articles.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: "Epic saga: immersive hypermedia (Myst for Wikipedia)" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133526
I would be real interested to hear y'all's ideas on medium to long term feasibility and desirability of this sort of system, and what we can pull more directly into the short term.
For instance I would love to get the panoramic / spherical viewers integrated in MMV, which is much easier than figuring out how to do clickable annotations in 3d environment. ;)
Medium term, I would also love to see us look at the annotation system that's on Commons done in site JS, and see if we can build a future-extensible system that's more integrated into the wiki and can be used in MMV.
Longer term, I think it'll just be nice to have these kinds of long-term goals to work towards.
Thoughts? Ideas? Am I crazy, or just crazy enough? ;)
-- brion
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Brion,
I think Gilles is working on 3D support for MultimediaViewer, if not panoramic/spherical viewing, then at least thumbnailing them in a way that makes sense. He can probably explain that more than I can, but I'd bet you could hook into the same system and add more complex support.
I haven't looked at the annotation system JS yet, but maybe we (I) could pull that into an extension short-term. I was thinking of doing that to HotCat first (mainly because I was so deeply offended that I read it still supports MediaWiki 1.15), but having annotations available for every MediaWiki instance would be a cool thing.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:07 AM Hay (Husky) huskyr@gmail.com wrote:
I like it! Seems like a perfect idea to prototype at a hackathon!
In general, i think it's a shame that virtually all content on Wikipedia is text and images. We have so many opportunities to make interactive datavisualisations, videos, etcetera.
-- Hay
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org wrote:
At Wikimedia Conference in Berlin I met with Felix from Wikimedia Ghana,
who
is super interested in getting more immersive media available such as 360-degree panoramic photos ("photo spheres"); I showed him the tool labs widget using panellum to do WebGL spherical photo viewing -- see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70719#2204864 -- and he was very
excited
to see that it's something we could probably work out how to integrate in the nearish term.
That got me thinking more generally about new media types (video, panos, stereoscopic photos/videos/panos, 3D models, interactive diagrams, etc)
and
how we can extend them to support annotations and linking in a way that could create immersive visual experiences with the same kind of rich information and interlinking that Wikipedia is famous for in the world of text articles.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: "Epic saga: immersive hypermedia (Myst
for
Wikipedia)" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133526
I would be real interested to hear y'all's ideas on medium to long term feasibility and desirability of this sort of system, and what we can pull more directly into the short term.
For instance I would love to get the panoramic / spherical viewers integrated in MMV, which is much easier than figuring out how to do clickable annotations in 3d environment. ;)
Medium term, I would also love to see us look at the annotation system that's on Commons done in site JS, and see if we can build a future-extensible system that's more integrated into the wiki and can be used in MMV.
Longer term, I think it'll just be nice to have these kinds of long-term goals to work towards.
Thoughts? Ideas? Am I crazy, or just crazy enough? ;)
-- brion
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I like all this a lot!
On Apr 25, 2016 16:22, "Mark Holmquist" marktraceur@gmail.com wrote:
Brion,
I think Gilles is working on 3D support for MultimediaViewer, if not
panoramic/spherical viewing, then at least thumbnailing them in a way that makes sense. He can probably explain that more than I can, but I'd bet you could hook into the same system and add more complex support.
I haven't looked at the annotation system JS yet, but maybe we (I) could
pull that into an extension short-term. I was thinking of doing that to HotCat first (mainly because I was so deeply offended that I read it still supports MediaWiki 1.15), but having annotations available for every MediaWiki instance would be a cool thing.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:07 AM Hay (Husky) huskyr@gmail.com wrote:
I like it! Seems like a perfect idea to prototype at a hackathon!
In general, i think it's a shame that virtually all content on Wikipedia is text and images. We have so many opportunities to make interactive datavisualisations, videos, etcetera.
-- Hay
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Brion Vibber bvibber@wikimedia.org
wrote:
At Wikimedia Conference in Berlin I met with Felix from Wikimedia
Ghana, who
is super interested in getting more immersive media available such as 360-degree panoramic photos ("photo spheres"); I showed him the tool
labs
widget using panellum to do WebGL spherical photo viewing -- see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70719#2204864 -- and he was very
excited
to see that it's something we could probably work out how to integrate
in
the nearish term.
That got me thinking more generally about new media types (video,
panos,
stereoscopic photos/videos/panos, 3D models, interactive diagrams,
etc) and
how we can extend them to support annotations and linking in a way that could create immersive visual experiences with the same kind of rich information and interlinking that Wikipedia is famous for in the world
of
text articles.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: "Epic saga: immersive hypermedia
(Myst for
Wikipedia)" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133526
I would be real interested to hear y'all's ideas on medium to long term feasibility and desirability of this sort of system, and what we can
pull
more directly into the short term.
For instance I would love to get the panoramic / spherical viewers integrated in MMV, which is much easier than figuring out how to do clickable annotations in 3d environment. ;)
Medium term, I would also love to see us look at the annotation system that's on Commons done in site JS, and see if we can build a future-extensible system that's more integrated into the wiki and can
be
used in MMV.
Longer term, I think it'll just be nice to have these kinds of
long-term
goals to work towards.
Thoughts? Ideas? Am I crazy, or just crazy enough? ;)
-- brion
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Hi,
...
That got me thinking more generally about new media types (video, panos, stereoscopic photos/videos/panos, 3D models, interactive diagrams, etc) and how we can extend them to support annotations and linking in a way that could create immersive visual experiences with the same kind of rich information and interlinking that Wikipedia is famous for in the world of text articles.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: "*Epic saga: immersive hypermedia (Myst for Wikipedia)*" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133526
I would be real interested to hear y'all's ideas on medium to long term feasibility and desirability of this sort of system, and what we can pull more directly into the short term.
For instance I would love to get the panoramic / spherical viewers integrated in MMV, which is much easier than figuring out how to do clickable annotations in 3d environment. ;)
Medium term, I would also love to see us look at the annotation system that's on Commons done in site JS, and see if we can build a future-extensible system that's more integrated into the wiki and can be used in MMV.
Longer term, I think it'll just be nice to have these kinds of long-term goals to work towards.
Thoughts? Ideas? Am I crazy, or just crazy enough? ;)
You proposal of a 3D environment seems quite interesting !
We could imagine a sort of Second Life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life were visitors could navigate from places to places, each place containing medias about a subject.
For that we would need to have 3D object files in Commons, a much needed feature.
For a distant future, we could use an electronic nose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_nose to smell odors in a location and put on Commons a file that could then be used with a odors generating machine to reproduce the smell of that location :-)
Regards.
Hi,
...
That got me thinking more generally about new media types (video, panos, stereoscopic photos/videos/panos, 3D models, interactive diagrams, etc) and how we can extend them to support annotations and linking in a way that could create immersive visual experiences with the same kind of rich information and interlinking that Wikipedia is famous for in the world of text articles.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: "*Epic saga: immersive hypermedia (Myst for Wikipedia)*" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133526
I would be real interested to hear y'all's ideas on medium to long term feasibility and desirability of this sort of system, and what we can pull more directly into the short term.
For instance I would love to get the panoramic / spherical viewers integrated in MMV, which is much easier than figuring out how to do clickable annotations in 3d environment.
Medium term, I would also love to see us look at the annotation system that's on Commons done in site JS, and see if we can build a future-extensible system that's more integrated into the wiki and can be used in MMV.
Longer term, I think it'll just be nice to have these kinds of long-term goals to work towards.
Thoughts? Ideas? Am I crazy, or just crazy enough?
You proposal of a 3D environment seems quite interesting !
We could imagine a sort of Second Life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life were visitors could navigate from places to places, each place containing medias about a subject.
For that we would need to have 3D object files in Commons, a much needed feature.
For a distant future, we could use an electronic nose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_nose to smell odors in a location and put on Commons a file that could then be used with a odors generating machine to reproduce the smell of that location
Regards.
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