Re: [Multimedia] Filtering out outliers in data used to generate tsvs

Including the analytics team in case they have a magical solution to our problem. Currently, our graphs display the mean and standard deviation of metrics, as provided in "mean" and "std" columns coming from our tsvs, generated based on EventLogging data: http://multimedia-metrics.wmflabs.org/dashboards/mmv However we already see that extreme outliers can make the standard deviation and mean skyrocket and as a result make the graphs useless for some metrics. See France, for example, for which a single massive value was able to skew the map into making the country look problematic: http://multimedia-metrics.wmflabs.org/dashboards/mmv#geographical_network_p… no performance issue with France, but the graph suggests that is the case because of that one outlier. Ideally, instead of using the mean for our graphs, we would be using what is called the "trimmed mean", i.e. the mean of all values excluding the upper and lower X percentiles. Unfortunately, MariaDB doesn't provide that as a function and calculating it with SQL can be surprisingly complicated, especially since we often have to group values for a given column. The best alternative I could come up with so far for our geographical queries was to exclude values that differ more than X times the standard deviation from the mean. It kind of flattens the mean. It's not ideal, because I think that in the context of our graphs it makes things look like they perform better than they really do. I think the main issue at the moment is that we're using a shell script to pipe a SQL request directly from db1047 to a tsv file. That limits us to one giant SQL query, and since we don't have the ability to create temporary tables on the log database with the research_prod user, we can't preprocess the data in multiple queries to filter out the upper and lower percentiles. The trimmed mean would be kind of feasible as a single complicated query if it wasn't for the GROUP BY: http://stackoverflow.com/a/8909568 So, my latest idea for a solution is to write a python script that will import the section (last X days) of data from the EventLogging tables that we're interested in into a temporary sqlite database, then proceed with removing the upper and lower percentiles of the data, according to any column grouping that might be necessary. And finally, once the data preprocessing is done in sqlite, run similar queries as before to export the mean, standard deviation, etc. for given metrics to tsvs. I think using sqlite is cleaner than doing the preprocessing on db1047 anyway. It's quite an undertaking, it basically means rewriting all our current SQL => TSV conversion. The ability to use more steps in the conversion means that we'd be able to have simpler, more readable SQL queries. It would also be a good opportunity to clean up the giant performance query with a bazillion JOINS: https://gitorious.org/analytics/multimedia/source/a949b1c8723c4c41700cedf6e… can actually be divided into several data sources all used in the same graph. Does that sound like a good idea, or is there a simpler solution out there that someone can think of?