We're considering adding an "upload to wikimedia commons" button for suitably-licensed images on our site, and am wondering where the API for this is documented, and/or if we need to go through an approval process to have our code allowed to do this. The closest similar thing I can think of is the Wikimedia Commons app (for ios or android) where you set it up once with your username and password, and then it lets you upload images very easily from your phone.
Of course, in this case, it wouldn't be the reader's own work, so there'd have to be some extra metadata we sent along.
Anyway, I can't seem to find the information I need. The app page is here, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Apps/Commons/Support, but there is no link to the source code -- I'd have thought that it would be open source.
The Commons API pages I can find ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:API, http://tools.wmflabs.org/magnus-toolserver/commonsapi.php, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:API/MediaWiki) only describe the read-only side.
Something else I'm not sure about: would the images be uploaded via the individual user's account, or through our institution's account on Commons? While I write this, I realize that there is another issue -- we would want to keep track of which images have been uploaded already, and in those cases, the button, rather than causing the upload, should take the user to the already-uploaded image page. Is anyone else doing something like this?
Can anyone offer some pointers?
Thanks! Chris Maloney
Chris,
I am having some trouble understanding your proposal, but if I understand correctly, then what you are proposing would be an emulation of how Flickr pictures can be migrated to Wikimedia Commons. Go to Flickr, search for CC pictures which can be reused commercially, then put the link into this tool while you are logged into Wikimedia Commons. http://toolserver.org/~bryan/flickr/upload If you do this, you can see an existing process. This system could be adapted for NIH.
However, this may or may not be the best system to use. An alternative might be to collect the files directly from NIH and then do a batch upload. If we did that, no new software would need to be developed, it would be easier to apply the metadata, and if we are talking about protein images, we may even be able to set up a bot which either inserts the images into articles or just creates a lot of protein articles with standard text. There would be advantages to what you propose but without knowing more context it is difficult to say what is best.
Related to this - I talked with a team last Friday who want to integrate their database of transporter proteins into Wikipedia. I gave them your contact information, because I know you had already thought of this and it seemed to me like they might want to do some of this work.
yours,
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Chris Maloney voldrani@gmail.com wrote:
We're considering adding an "upload to wikimedia commons" button for suitably-licensed images on our site, and am wondering where the API for this is documented, and/or if we need to go through an approval process to have our code allowed to do this. The closest similar thing I can think of is the Wikimedia Commons app (for ios or android) where you set it up once with your username and password, and then it lets you upload images very easily from your phone.
Of course, in this case, it wouldn't be the reader's own work, so there'd have to be some extra metadata we sent along.
Anyway, I can't seem to find the information I need. The app page is here, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Apps/Commons/Support, but there is no link to the source code -- I'd have thought that it would be open source.
The Commons API pages I can find ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:API, http://tools.wmflabs.org/magnus-toolserver/commonsapi.php, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:API/MediaWiki) only describe the read-only side.
Something else I'm not sure about: would the images be uploaded via the individual user's account, or through our institution's account on Commons? While I write this, I realize that there is another issue -- we would want to keep track of which images have been uploaded already, and in those cases, the button, rather than causing the upload, should take the user to the already-uploaded image page. Is anyone else doing something like this?
Can anyone offer some pointers?
Thanks! Chris Maloney
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Hi, Lane,
Yes, that's pretty close. I just tried out that tool and it is nice, but it seems like way too many steps -- the mobile app is much cleaner and easier for the end user, so I'm hoping we can do something like it.
A couple of notes: * Daniel thinks that there are too many images in our open access subset, and that we should not try to upload them all. Most of them would not be of any value for reuse. * I guess we could try to batch upload subsets, but I think it would be daunting to try to write an algorithm to determine which ones have value and which don't * So we're thinking of putting the button on the (journal) article pages, so that it's easy for WP editors to get images for (WP) articles as they're working on them, * We'd only show the button for suitably licensed images * I think it would probably be just as easy to apply our metadata in this scenario as for any batch-upload scenario (but that's a guess).
So, thanks for the link to the flickr upload bot -- it looks like a good starting point, and I'll get in touch with Bryan with my questions.
Chris
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.comwrote:
Chris,
I am having some trouble understanding your proposal, but if I understand correctly, then what you are proposing would be an emulation of how Flickr pictures can be migrated to Wikimedia Commons. Go to Flickr, search for CC pictures which can be reused commercially, then put the link into this tool while you are logged into Wikimedia Commons. http://toolserver.org/~bryan/flickr/upload If you do this, you can see an existing process. This system could be adapted for NIH.
However, this may or may not be the best system to use. An alternative might be to collect the files directly from NIH and then do a batch upload. If we did that, no new software would need to be developed, it would be easier to apply the metadata, and if we are talking about protein images, we may even be able to set up a bot which either inserts the images into articles or just creates a lot of protein articles with standard text. There would be advantages to what you propose but without knowing more context it is difficult to say what is best.
Related to this - I talked with a team last Friday who want to integrate their database of transporter proteins into Wikipedia. I gave them your contact information, because I know you had already thought of this and it seemed to me like they might want to do some of this work.
yours,
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Chris Maloney voldrani@gmail.com wrote:
We're considering adding an "upload to wikimedia commons" button for suitably-licensed images on our site, and am wondering where the API for this is documented, and/or if we need to go through an approval process to have our code allowed to do this. The closest similar thing I can think of is the Wikimedia Commons app (for ios or android) where you set it up once with your username and password, and then it lets you upload images very easily from your phone.
Of course, in this case, it wouldn't be the reader's own work, so there'd have to be some extra metadata we sent along.
Anyway, I can't seem to find the information I need. The app page is here, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Apps/Commons/Support, but there is no link to the source code -- I'd have thought that it would be open source.
The Commons API pages I can find ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:API, http://tools.wmflabs.org/magnus-toolserver/commonsapi.php, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:API/MediaWiki) only describe the read-only side.
Something else I'm not sure about: would the images be uploaded via the individual user's account, or through our institution's account on Commons? While I write this, I realize that there is another issue -- we would want to keep track of which images have been uploaded already, and in those cases, the button, rather than causing the upload, should take the user to the already-uploaded image page. Is anyone else doing something like this?
Can anyone offer some pointers?
Thanks! Chris Maloney
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-- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 lane@bluerasberry.com
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Chris,
Probably some steps could be cut out as compared to the flickr process because with flickr, so much attention has to be given to attributing the author and noting the license. With your content everything is public domain, so it might be easier to manage.
If you hit a dead end or even a delay then ping me again. I expect that other people have ideas also, and if it came to pass that we wrote a proposal for what we wanted then I would expect that we could recruit people to develop what is necessary.
While I cannot do any development of the tools, I could write the proposal and documentation for it as well as solicit comments and recruit community support. I can see your point about not wanting to upload a mass of files when only 1 in a thousand may be useful, and there is no way to know which ones people will want except just to make it easy for them to request and share them.
yours,
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Chris Maloney voldrani@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Lane,
Yes, that's pretty close. I just tried out that tool and it is nice, but it seems like way too many steps -- the mobile app is much cleaner and easier for the end user, so I'm hoping we can do something like it.
A couple of notes:
- Daniel thinks that there are too many images in our open access subset,
and that we should not try to upload them all. Most of them would not be of any value for reuse.
- I guess we could try to batch upload subsets, but I think it would be
daunting to try to write an algorithm to determine which ones have value and which don't
- So we're thinking of putting the button on the (journal) article pages,
so that it's easy for WP editors to get images for (WP) articles as they're working on them,
- We'd only show the button for suitably licensed images
- I think it would probably be just as easy to apply our metadata in this
scenario as for any batch-upload scenario (but that's a guess).
So, thanks for the link to the flickr upload bot -- it looks like a good starting point, and I'll get in touch with Bryan with my questions.
Chris
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.comwrote:
Chris,
I am having some trouble understanding your proposal, but if I understand correctly, then what you are proposing would be an emulation of how Flickr pictures can be migrated to Wikimedia Commons. Go to Flickr, search for CC pictures which can be reused commercially, then put the link into this tool while you are logged into Wikimedia Commons. http://toolserver.org/~bryan/flickr/upload If you do this, you can see an existing process. This system could be adapted for NIH.
However, this may or may not be the best system to use. An alternative might be to collect the files directly from NIH and then do a batch upload. If we did that, no new software would need to be developed, it would be easier to apply the metadata, and if we are talking about protein images, we may even be able to set up a bot which either inserts the images into articles or just creates a lot of protein articles with standard text. There would be advantages to what you propose but without knowing more context it is difficult to say what is best.
Related to this - I talked with a team last Friday who want to integrate their database of transporter proteins into Wikipedia. I gave them your contact information, because I know you had already thought of this and it seemed to me like they might want to do some of this work.
yours,
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Chris Maloney voldrani@gmail.com wrote:
We're considering adding an "upload to wikimedia commons" button for suitably-licensed images on our site, and am wondering where the API for this is documented, and/or if we need to go through an approval process to have our code allowed to do this. The closest similar thing I can think of is the Wikimedia Commons app (for ios or android) where you set it up once with your username and password, and then it lets you upload images very easily from your phone.
Of course, in this case, it wouldn't be the reader's own work, so there'd have to be some extra metadata we sent along.
Anyway, I can't seem to find the information I need. The app page is here, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Apps/Commons/Support, but there is no link to the source code -- I'd have thought that it would be open source.
The Commons API pages I can find ( https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:API, http://tools.wmflabs.org/magnus-toolserver/commonsapi.php, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:API/MediaWiki) only describe the read-only side.
Something else I'm not sure about: would the images be uploaded via the individual user's account, or through our institution's account on Commons? While I write this, I realize that there is another issue -- we would want to keep track of which images have been uploaded already, and in those cases, the button, rather than causing the upload, should take the user to the already-uploaded image page. Is anyone else doing something like this?
Can anyone offer some pointers?
Thanks! Chris Maloney
GLAM-US mailing list GLAM-US@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam-us
-- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 lane@bluerasberry.com
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