On Nov 2, 2016, at 7:00 AM, glam-us-request@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
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1. Re: [GLAM] Getting ready for #1lib1ref 2017 (Erika Herzog)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 05:11:46 -0400 From: Erika Herzog erikaherzog.postcard@gmail.com To: North American Cultural Partnerships glam-us@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Wikimedia & Libraries libraries@lists.wikimedia.org, "Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration [Public]" glam@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Chapters cultural partners coordination cultural-partners@wikimedia.ch, wikiCite wikicite@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [GLAM-US] [GLAM] Getting ready for #1lib1ref 2017 Message-ID: B3562F92-04EA-43AC-AF9B-A48228863027@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Maybe I am missing something but when folks are doing citations on En Wikipedia in both Wiki Markup -- as well as Visual Editor -- putting unique identifiers like OCLC, ISBN, DOI, etc into the Cite RefToolbar form and clicking on lookup icon does a great job often with auto filling info. The web Cite for many news sources also works we'll with URLs for places like The New York Times and The Washington Post, etc.
When librarians see these tools in practice it's very magical so if the end users have even minimal comfort with the interfaces I recommend these options for the fullest citations possible on En Wikipedia. With ref name= populated so ref can be re-used of course....
There is of course a massive loss of full bibliographic citation data to convey this info to Wikidata but there is no working solution to this yet.
I am not a fan of putting cites onto Wikidata until this is at least minimally improved although I understand the benefits and interoperability with multiple language Wikipedias, etc. I am probably just fetishizing my full robust citations but YMMV.
Much of this is connected to WikiCite -- and possibly Librarybase, so if you are interested more I strongly recommend investigating both projects, especially WikiCite.
Early stages yet, but exciting and moving in the right direction.
- Erika
On Nov 1, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Raymond Leonard raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com wrote:
Folks,
I may be preaching to the choir, but I think that there are two important pieces for encouraging librarians in entering bibliographic data into & retrieving it from Wikidata .
The first would be some sort of web form that has multiple inputs with pre-determined properties such as Work, Edition, & Cataloging properties listed at :wikidata:Template:Book properties & :d:Wikidata:WikiProject Books . (especially the OCLC #!!!) While this may be contrary to the way things normally go into Wikidata, it could provide a format that I believe many librarians would find more user friendly. I write this as someone who once entered journal bibliographic data into a minicomputer-based online university catalog about 2½ decades ago. Some means for automatically loading MARC &/or OCLC data into Wikidata might also be a viable method, too.
The second would be to implement a citation module for placing data into articles. The French Wikipedia (& I have also heard the Arabic Wikipedia) has already done this. It would be truly beneficial to get this translated to the English Wikipedia, although it would be better yet if we could come up a means of putting the module on a repository that could be used across projects. I am neither fluent in Lua or French, so producing an English version is a challenge for me, otherwise I would do it.
Here's an example of how the French Wikipedia & Wikidata work together to produce a citation:
Du chocolate : discours curieux divisé en quatre parties item in Wikdata: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23906197?uselang=en
The Modèle:Bibliographie (bibliographic template): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Bibliographie
How the Wikimarkup looks for its use in Chocolat article ( {{bibliographie|Q23906197}} should be at the top): https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chocolat&action=edit%C2%A7ion...
What the end result looks like (Du chocolate : discours curieux divisé en quatre parties should be at the top): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolat#Bibliographie
Yours,
Peaceray
peaceray@cascadia.wiki (forwards to)
raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Bob Kosovsky bobkosovsky@nypl.org wrote: Great suggestion, Daniel. I think there can should be a greater effort to promoting Wikidata among librarians with technical expertise because it is closer to what these librarians do (especially among catalogers and other tech types). In sessions introducing editing Wikipedia that included librarians, I've seen the librarians express greater interest in Wikidata than the encyclopedia.
Bob
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On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Daniel Mietchen daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks, Alex and Jake, for keeping the ball rolling on this.
Have you considered including a Wikidata component? In the long run, I expect librarians to spend more of their Wikimedia time on Wikidata, especially around https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData .
Cheers, d.
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Alex Stinson astinson@wikimedia.org wrote: Hello Wikimedians!
We are excited to finally start coordinating among #1lib1ref organizers this month.
If you haven’t yet, we invite you to read the lessons that we learned from last year’s great campaign:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref/Lessons
As with last year, we hope to launch #1lib1ref on Wikipedia’s 16th birthday in January, asking librarians to “Give a birthday present to Wikipedia, by adding a reference”.
What’s new?
Last year we got a lot of feedback from librarians that they would have planned more activities if “they just had a bit more warning and time” so we are extending the campaign from eight days to 19 days, from January 15 through February 3.
We hope this does two things: a) it allows for several waves of communications and people adopting the campaign for local events and b) fits better with the start of the Spring Term at many universities in the Northern Hemisphere, where librarians are in demand for various activities.
We also noticed last year a lot of social media about informal gatherings: librarians wanted to learn about Wikipedia socially at physical events. We think this is a great opportunity, so the Wikipedia Library team is developing a coffee hour kit that provides enough material to help librarians coordinate a small gathering, where they can talk about Wikipedia with their peers and add their one reference.
The kit is going to include: a) recommendations for planning, b) a series of discussion questions, c) easy suggested activities, and d) a flyer template for promoting the event locally. If you would like to help build the kit, or a new 1lib1ref logo, let us know.
How you can help
We hope the campaign offers a platform for engaging librarians in your region and context to learn more about Wikimedia projects. We know librarians use Wikipedia for a variety of purposes, but the campaign’s story--specifically how our references work--becomes a shared foundation for understanding and entering our community. If you would like to coordinate #1lib1ref in your area, here are the main steps:
Join the Wikipedia + Libraries Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikilibrary
Fill out this survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSflWCp9QkNbIZWXCWU02bp_FGCAua4Z6UaB...
Review Citation Hunt -- a volunteer-developed tool that allows for randomly being offered a citation. Check if your language is supported in the top right.
URL: https://tools.wmflabs.org/citationhunt/
Report Bugs or request features or language support: https://github.com/eggpi/citationhunt/issues
Review Hashtag Tracking -- a way to track edits made through the edit summary field.
URL: https://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags
Report bugs or request features or language support: https://github.com/hatnote/hashtags/issues/new
Translate the campaign page to your local language. We want to have it ready for translation no later than November 10th and will notify you with an email that it’s ready.
Begin reaching out to partners that you think will want to participate during the campaign through a) communications or b) activities.
We look forward to collaborating with you! Thanks so much for your help--it should be a lot of fun.
Best,
Alex Stinson Jake Orlowitz
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