Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation Discovery Portal team [1] has recently completed tests to see if a new Wikipedia.org [3] page design would be easier to navigate by adding a dropdown that contained all the languages by article count list.
The test results [4] did indeed find that visitors were more likely to click through to a link and there was a lower amount of 'non-action' on the page, because of the new design. We also tested the page with many Wikipedia users and received comments that the new page design was aesthetically pleasing and less cluttered.
Based on this information, we would like to promote this into production on the Wikipedia.org portal, but we want to ask the community for feedback and/or suggestions [5].
Cheers from the Discovery Portal team!
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_Portal [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131526 [3] https://www.wikipedia.org [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Portal_AB_Test_of_Collapsi... [5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_updated_page_layout
-- Deb Tankersley Product Manager, Discovery IRC: debt Wikimedia Foundation
Hi Deb,
1. Is the proposed new page for mobile, desktop, or both?
2. Would the change affect the Apple and Android apps?
3. My personal first impression is that I like the new proposal. However, because it is a content/design change, it should go through a community RfC on Meta. My hunch is that it will be approved after about a month. Whether or not the change is approved, the discussion should provide some valuable feedback for future possibilities of that portal.
Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 7, 2016 14:46, "Deborah Tankersley" dtankersley@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation Discovery Portal team [1] has recently completed
tests to see if a new Wikipedia.org [3] page design would be easier to navigate by adding a dropdown that contained all the languages by article count list.
The test results [4] did indeed find that visitors were more likely to
click through to a link and there was a lower amount of 'non-action' on the page, because of the new design. We also tested the page with many Wikipedia users and received comments that the new page design was aesthetically pleasing and less cluttered.
Based on this information, we would like to promote this into production
on the Wikipedia.org portal, but we want to ask the community for feedback and/or suggestions [5].
Cheers from the Discovery Portal team!
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_Portal [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131526 [3] https://www.wikipedia.org [4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Portal_AB_Test_of_Collapsi...
[5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_updated_page_layout
-- Deb Tankersley Product Manager, Discovery IRC: debt Wikimedia Foundation
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
Hi Pine,
The change will be for all browsers that access the Wikipedia.org page directly on all devices. In the RfC page, I have placed images of what it would look like on both desktop and mobile. This will not affect the apps, as they have their own interface.
We have the request for comment (RfC) article on mediawiki and have asked for it to be translated and it will eventually get to the Village Pumps as well.
Since this update is not changing the content of the page - just the layout - I felt that since the other portal pages are on mediawiki, that it would be an appropriate place for the RfC.
Cheers,
Deb
On Friday, July 8, 2016, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Deb,
Is the proposed new page for mobile, desktop, or both?
Would the change affect the Apple and Android apps?
My personal first impression is that I like the new proposal. However,
because it is a content/design change, it should go through a community RfC on Meta. My hunch is that it will be approved after about a month. Whether or not the change is approved, the discussion should provide some valuable feedback for future possibilities of that portal.
Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 7, 2016 14:46, "Deborah Tankersley" <dtankersley@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dtankersley@wikimedia.org');> wrote:
Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation Discovery Portal team [1] has recently
completed tests to see if a new Wikipedia.org [3] page design would be easier to navigate by adding a dropdown that contained all the languages by article count list.
The test results [4] did indeed find that visitors were more likely to
click through to a link and there was a lower amount of 'non-action' on the page, because of the new design. We also tested the page with many Wikipedia users and received comments that the new page design was aesthetically pleasing and less cluttered.
Based on this information, we would like to promote this into production
on the Wikipedia.org portal, but we want to ask the community for feedback and/or suggestions [5].
Cheers from the Discovery Portal team!
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_Portal [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131526 [3] https://www.wikipedia.org [4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Portal_AB_Test_of_Collapsi...
[5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_updated_page_layout
-- Deb Tankersley Product Manager, Discovery IRC: debt Wikimedia Foundation
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','discovery@lists.wikimedia.org');
Hi Deb,
OK, that makes sense. Can you provide a link to the RfC page? I can't find it on MediaWiki.org.
I suggest also placing a notification about the RfC in the "Goings-on" list that's on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page.
Thanks,
Pine
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Deborah Tankersley < dtankersley@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi Pine,
The change will be for all browsers that access the Wikipedia.org page directly on all devices. In the RfC page, I have placed images of what it would look like on both desktop and mobile. This will not affect the apps, as they have their own interface.
We have the request for comment (RfC) article on mediawiki and have asked for it to be translated and it will eventually get to the Village Pumps as well.
Since this update is not changing the content of the page - just the layout - I felt that since the other portal pages are on mediawiki, that it would be an appropriate place for the RfC.
Cheers,
Deb
On Friday, July 8, 2016, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Deb,
Is the proposed new page for mobile, desktop, or both?
Would the change affect the Apple and Android apps?
My personal first impression is that I like the new proposal. However,
because it is a content/design change, it should go through a community RfC on Meta. My hunch is that it will be approved after about a month. Whether or not the change is approved, the discussion should provide some valuable feedback for future possibilities of that portal.
Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 7, 2016 14:46, "Deborah Tankersley" dtankersley@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation Discovery Portal team [1] has recently
completed tests to see if a new Wikipedia.org [3] page design would be easier to navigate by adding a dropdown that contained all the languages by article count list.
The test results [4] did indeed find that visitors were more likely to
click through to a link and there was a lower amount of 'non-action' on the page, because of the new design. We also tested the page with many Wikipedia users and received comments that the new page design was aesthetically pleasing and less cluttered.
Based on this information, we would like to promote this into
production on the Wikipedia.org portal, but we want to ask the community for feedback and/or suggestions [5].
Cheers from the Discovery Portal team!
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_Portal [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131526 [3] https://www.wikipedia.org [4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Portal_AB_Test_of_Collapsi...
[5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_updated_page_layout
-- Deb Tankersley Product Manager, Discovery IRC: debt Wikimedia Foundation
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
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Deb Tankersley Product Manager, Discovery IRC: debt Wikimedia Foundation
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Hi Pine,
Here's the link to the RfC page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_updated_page_layout on MediaWiki, and thanks for your suggestion for meta wiki - I've added it in! :)
Cheers,
Deb
-- Deb Tankersley Product Manager, Discovery IRC: debt Wikimedia Foundation
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Deb,
OK, that makes sense. Can you provide a link to the RfC page? I can't find it on MediaWiki.org.
I suggest also placing a notification about the RfC in the "Goings-on" list that's on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page.
Thanks,
Pine
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Deborah Tankersley < dtankersley@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi Pine,
The change will be for all browsers that access the Wikipedia.org page directly on all devices. In the RfC page, I have placed images of what it would look like on both desktop and mobile. This will not affect the apps, as they have their own interface.
We have the request for comment (RfC) article on mediawiki and have asked for it to be translated and it will eventually get to the Village Pumps as well.
Since this update is not changing the content of the page - just the layout - I felt that since the other portal pages are on mediawiki, that it would be an appropriate place for the RfC.
Cheers,
Deb
On Friday, July 8, 2016, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Deb,
Is the proposed new page for mobile, desktop, or both?
Would the change affect the Apple and Android apps?
My personal first impression is that I like the new proposal.
However, because it is a content/design change, it should go through a community RfC on Meta. My hunch is that it will be approved after about a month. Whether or not the change is approved, the discussion should provide some valuable feedback for future possibilities of that portal.
Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 7, 2016 14:46, "Deborah Tankersley" dtankersley@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation Discovery Portal team [1] has recently
completed tests to see if a new Wikipedia.org [3] page design would be easier to navigate by adding a dropdown that contained all the languages by article count list.
The test results [4] did indeed find that visitors were more likely to
click through to a link and there was a lower amount of 'non-action' on the page, because of the new design. We also tested the page with many Wikipedia users and received comments that the new page design was aesthetically pleasing and less cluttered.
Based on this information, we would like to promote this into
production on the Wikipedia.org portal, but we want to ask the community for feedback and/or suggestions [5].
Cheers from the Discovery Portal team!
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_Portal [2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131526 [3] https://www.wikipedia.org [4]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Portal_AB_Test_of_Collapsi...
[5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_updated_page_layout
-- Deb Tankersley Product Manager, Discovery IRC: debt Wikimedia Foundation
discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery
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