Cross-posting this to the Discovery mailing list with hopes that someone from WMF Discovery can shed some light on this situation.
Pine
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
I actually think there is a drop in page content results too. Searching for example, pages using a tag <FooBar>text</FooBar> would report content found in x pages. Now search <FooBar> no content in pages found. Search <FooBar no > found on 3 pages but expect 50.
I do want to do more testing. Rebuilding the index seems to be super fast unlike before which would take up to a few minutes to complete.
Tom
On May 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, [[kgh]] mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de wrote:
Heiya,
it's me again. :) Does somebody at least see the issue. Probably a bug that should be reported?
Thanks and cheers
Karsten
Am 09.05.2017 um 16:32 schrieb [[kgh]]: Heiya,
I have upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 which was now possible since the latest release.
After the process I observe a changed behavior regarding the rudimentary full-text search MediaWiki provides out of the box, i.e. I am not talking about the Cirrus/Elastica duo available as an extra.
When adding a search term to the search field on MW 1.27 like e.g. "Lorem ipsum" (note: including the ") than only the page names for the findings are shown and not the page names and some text extract wrapping the searched term as MW 1.23 did. When adding just Lorem ipsum (note: excluding the ") I get the page names and some text extract wrapping the searched term as I did with 1.23. The results for Lorem ipsum however are a much worse fit than for "Lorem ipsum" so that's why I am here.
Perhaps I missed some setting I now have to make or perhaps there is some script I overlooked to get things running. I'd like to get the wrapping text back. Pointers highly appreciated.
Thanks for your time
Karsten
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Just a heads-up that most of the WMF Discovery folks are traveling, at an offsite, at the hackathon, or traveling. So it might be several more days before any of them are able to respond.
I will set a reminder for myself to make sure this doesn't get forgotten.
Kevin Smith Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 4:31 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Cross-posting this to the Discovery mailing list with hopes that someone from WMF Discovery can shed some light on this situation.
Pine
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
I actually think there is a drop in page content results too. Searching for example, pages using a tag <FooBar>text</FooBar> would report content found in x pages. Now search <FooBar> no content in pages found. Search <FooBar no > found on 3 pages but expect 50.
I do want to do more testing. Rebuilding the index seems to be super fast unlike before which would take up to a few minutes to complete.
Tom
On May 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, [[kgh]] mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de wrote:
Heiya,
it's me again. :) Does somebody at least see the issue. Probably a bug that should be reported?
Thanks and cheers
Karsten
Am 09.05.2017 um 16:32 schrieb [[kgh]]: Heiya,
I have upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 which was now possible since the latest release.
After the process I observe a changed behavior regarding the
rudimentary
full-text search MediaWiki provides out of the box, i.e. I am not talking about the Cirrus/Elastica duo available as an extra.
When adding a search term to the search field on MW 1.27 like e.g. "Lorem ipsum" (note: including the ") than only the page names for the findings are shown and not the page names and some text extract
wrapping
the searched term as MW 1.23 did. When adding just Lorem ipsum (note: excluding the ") I get the page names and some text extract wrapping
the
searched term as I did with 1.23. The results for Lorem ipsum however are a much worse fit than for "Lorem ipsum" so that's why I am here.
Perhaps I missed some setting I now have to make or perhaps there is some script I overlooked to get things running. I'd like to get the wrapping text back. Pointers highly appreciated.
Thanks for your time
Karsten
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Heiya Pine,
thanks a lot for forwarding my e-mail to discovery. Did not think about this list. I just subscribed for me to be able staying in the loop on this.
It will be very cool to learn what may cause this problem once people a back in office. To have a somewhat operational search, even in a rudimentary form without Cirrus/Elastica will be great. MW 1.23 was still doing this.
Keeping fingers crossed and thanks a lot again
Cheers
Karsten
Am 17.05.2017 um 04:31 schrieb Pine W:
Cross-posting this to the Discovery mailing list with hopes that someone from WMF Discovery can shed some light on this situation.
Pine
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
I actually think there is a drop in page content results too. Searching for example, pages using a tag <FooBar>text</FooBar> would report content found in x pages. Now search <FooBar> no content in pages found. Search <FooBar no > found on 3 pages but expect 50.
I do want to do more testing. Rebuilding the index seems to be super fast unlike before which would take up to a few minutes to complete.
Tom
On May 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, [[kgh]] mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de wrote:
Heiya,
it's me again. :) Does somebody at least see the issue. Probably a bug that should be reported?
Thanks and cheers
Karsten
Am 09.05.2017 um 16:32 schrieb [[kgh]]: Heiya,
I have upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 which was now possible since the latest release.
After the process I observe a changed behavior regarding the rudimentary full-text search MediaWiki provides out of the box, i.e. I am not talking about the Cirrus/Elastica duo available as an extra.
When adding a search term to the search field on MW 1.27 like e.g. "Lorem ipsum" (note: including the ") than only the page names for the findings are shown and not the page names and some text extract wrapping the searched term as MW 1.23 did. When adding just Lorem ipsum (note: excluding the ") I get the page names and some text extract wrapping the searched term as I did with 1.23. The results for Lorem ipsum however are a much worse fit than for "Lorem ipsum" so that's why I am here.
Perhaps I missed some setting I now have to make or perhaps there is some script I overlooked to get things running. I'd like to get the wrapping text back. Pointers highly appreciated.
Thanks for your time
Karsten
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Hi,
to clarify: - highlighting: When searching with double quotes (phrase search) only the title is displayed in the search results, the text snippet with the page content snippet is not displayed. But here the same number results is found between 1.23 and 1.27 it just lacks some snippet for the page content? - ranking: When searching without quotes, the snippet for the page content is shown but the results are worse (compared to the phrase search or compared to MW1.23?) - missing content: When searching wikitext tags: a lot of pages are missing: this is not a highlighting problem here: when I searched for *<tag> *with MW 1.23: 50 pages were found, now with MW 1.27 only 3 are found. Does this problem apply only to tags, are there missing pages when searching normal text?
It looks like 3 different bugs to me, could you please confirm. We'll then be able to create some phabricator tickets to continue the discussion there.
Thanks!
Heiya,
I am still in a kinda misery concering this. It will be cool if anyone could either confirm that this is a bug or that I have done something wrong - ideally plus some advice.
Thanks and cheers
Karsten
Am 18.05.2017 um 18:18 schrieb [[kgh]]:
Heiya Pine,
thanks a lot for forwarding my e-mail to discovery. Did not think about this list. I just subscribed for me to be able staying in the loop on this.
It will be very cool to learn what may cause this problem once people a back in office. To have a somewhat operational search, even in a rudimentary form without Cirrus/Elastica will be great. MW 1.23 was still doing this.
Keeping fingers crossed and thanks a lot again
Cheers
Karsten
Am 17.05.2017 um 04:31 schrieb Pine W:
Cross-posting this to the Discovery mailing list with hopes that someone from WMF Discovery can shed some light on this situation.
Pine
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
I actually think there is a drop in page content results too. Searching for example, pages using a tag <FooBar>text</FooBar> would report content found in x pages. Now search <FooBar> no content in pages found. Search <FooBar no > found on 3 pages but expect 50.
I do want to do more testing. Rebuilding the index seems to be super fast unlike before which would take up to a few minutes to complete.
Tom
On May 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, [[kgh]] mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de wrote:
Heiya,
it's me again. :) Does somebody at least see the issue. Probably a bug that should be reported?
Thanks and cheers
Karsten
Am 09.05.2017 um 16:32 schrieb [[kgh]]: Heiya,
I have upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 which was now possible since the latest release.
After the process I observe a changed behavior regarding the rudimentary full-text search MediaWiki provides out of the box, i.e. I am not talking about the Cirrus/Elastica duo available as an extra.
When adding a search term to the search field on MW 1.27 like e.g. "Lorem ipsum" (note: including the ") than only the page names for the findings are shown and not the page names and some text extract wrapping the searched term as MW 1.23 did. When adding just Lorem ipsum (note: excluding the ") I get the page names and some text extract wrapping the searched term as I did with 1.23. The results for Lorem ipsum however are a much worse fit than for "Lorem ipsum" so that's why I am here.
Perhaps I missed some setting I now have to make or perhaps there is some script I overlooked to get things running. I'd like to get the wrapping text back. Pointers highly appreciated.
Thanks for your time
Karsten
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Hey Karsten, It looks like David asked a few clarifying questions in the thread that may have got lost in the mix.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/discovery/2017-May/001526.html
If I missed a reply somewhere, I apologize. :)
Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison - Discovery Wikimedia Foundation
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:10 PM, [[kgh]] mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de wrote:
Heiya,
I am still in a kinda misery concering this. It will be cool if anyone could either confirm that this is a bug or that I have done something wrong - ideally plus some advice.
Thanks and cheers
Karsten
Am 18.05.2017 um 18:18 schrieb [[kgh]]:
Heiya Pine,
thanks a lot for forwarding my e-mail to discovery. Did not think about this list. I just subscribed for me to be able staying in the loop on
this.
It will be very cool to learn what may cause this problem once people a back in office. To have a somewhat operational search, even in a rudimentary form without Cirrus/Elastica will be great. MW 1.23 was still doing this.
Keeping fingers crossed and thanks a lot again
Cheers
Karsten
Am 17.05.2017 um 04:31 schrieb Pine W:
Cross-posting this to the Discovery mailing list with hopes that someone from WMF Discovery can shed some light on this situation.
Pine
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
I actually think there is a drop in page content results too. Searching for example, pages using a tag <FooBar>text</FooBar> would report
content
found in x pages. Now search <FooBar> no content in pages found. Search <FooBar no > found on 3 pages but expect 50.
I do want to do more testing. Rebuilding the index seems to be super
fast
unlike before which would take up to a few minutes to complete.
Tom
On May 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, [[kgh]] mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de
wrote:
Heiya,
it's me again. :) Does somebody at least see the issue. Probably a bug that should be reported?
Thanks and cheers
Karsten
Am 09.05.2017 um 16:32 schrieb [[kgh]]: Heiya,
I have upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 which was now possible since the latest release.
After the process I observe a changed behavior regarding the
rudimentary
full-text search MediaWiki provides out of the box, i.e. I am not talking about the Cirrus/Elastica duo available as an extra.
When adding a search term to the search field on MW 1.27 like e.g. "Lorem ipsum" (note: including the ") than only the page names for
the
findings are shown and not the page names and some text extract
wrapping
the searched term as MW 1.23 did. When adding just Lorem ipsum (note: excluding the ") I get the page names and some text extract wrapping
the
searched term as I did with 1.23. The results for Lorem ipsum however are a much worse fit than for "Lorem ipsum" so that's why I am here.
Perhaps I missed some setting I now have to make or perhaps there is some script I overlooked to get things running. I'd like to get the wrapping text back. Pointers highly appreciated.
Thanks for your time
Karsten
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Heiya and ouch,
thanks a lot Chris for making me aware of the post. You mail went directly to the spam folder and David's did not even get that far (lost in the void :( ). In future I will just monitor the archive for new posts to be sure. :|
ad 1 - highlighting) Affirmative, so one hast to access the page to see where exactly the phrase shows up.
ad 2 - ranking) I cannot tell for sure but I my impression is yes.
ad 3 - missing content) This was part of Tom's oberservation, but yes I experience that too. Even after running "rebuildtextindex.php" pages did not show up in the search - not even title matches.
I have still one wiki on MW 1.23 so I could do before and after testing to be able to provide a better picture.
So I guess it is time to move to phabricator.
Cheers and thanks a lot for your feedback.
Karsten
quote lost e-mail:
Hi,
to clarify: 1) highlighting: When searching with double quotes (phrase search) only the title is displayed in the search results, the text snippet with the page content snippet is not displayed. But here the same number results is found between 1.23 and 1.27 it just lacks some snippet for the page content? 2) ranking: When searching without quotes, the snippet for the page content is shown but the results are worse (compared to the phrase search or compared to MW1.23?) 3) missing content: When searching wikitext tags: a lot of pages are missing: this is not a highlighting problem here: when I searched for *<tag> *with MW 1.23: 50 pages were found, now with MW 1.27 only 3 are found. Does this problem apply only to tags, are there missing pages when searching normal text?
It looks like 3 different bugs to me, could you please confirm. We'll then be able to create some phabricator tickets to continue the discussion there.
Thanks!
Am 02.06.2017 um 00:14 schrieb Chris Koerner:
Hey Karsten, It looks like David asked a few clarifying questions in the thread that may have got lost in the mix.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/discovery/2017-May/001526.html
If I missed a reply somewhere, I apologize. :)
Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison - Discovery Wikimedia Foundation
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:10 PM, [[kgh]] <mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de mailto:mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de> wrote:
Heiya, I am still in a kinda misery concering this. It will be cool if anyone could either confirm that this is a bug or that I have done something wrong - ideally plus some advice. Thanks and cheers Karsten Am 18.05.2017 um 18:18 schrieb [[kgh]]: > Heiya Pine, > > thanks a lot for forwarding my e-mail to discovery. Did not think about > this list. I just subscribed for me to be able staying in the loop on this. > > It will be very cool to learn what may cause this problem once people a > back in office. To have a somewhat operational search, even in a > rudimentary form without Cirrus/Elastica will be great. MW 1.23 was > still doing this. > > Keeping fingers crossed and thanks a lot again > > Cheers > > Karsten > > > Am 17.05.2017 um 04:31 schrieb Pine W: >> Cross-posting this to the Discovery mailing list with hopes that someone >> from WMF Discovery can shed some light on this situation. >> >> Pine >> >> >> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Tom <tom@hutch4.us <mailto:tom@hutch4.us>> wrote: >> >>> I actually think there is a drop in page content results too. Searching >>> for example, pages using a tag <FooBar>text</FooBar> would report content >>> found in x pages. Now search <FooBar> no content in pages found. Search >>> <FooBar no > found on 3 pages but expect 50. >>> >>> I do want to do more testing. Rebuilding the index seems to be super fast >>> unlike before which would take up to a few minutes to complete. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>>> On May 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, [[kgh]] <mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de <mailto:mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Heiya, >>>> >>>> it's me again. :) Does somebody at least see the issue. Probably a bug >>>> that should be reported? >>>> >>>> Thanks and cheers >>>> >>>> Karsten >>>> >>>> >>>>> Am 09.05.2017 um 16:32 schrieb [[kgh]]: >>>>> Heiya, >>>>> >>>>> I have upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 which was now possible since the >>>>> latest release. >>>>> >>>>> After the process I observe a changed behavior regarding the rudimentary >>>>> full-text search MediaWiki provides out of the box, i.e. I am not >>>>> talking about the Cirrus/Elastica duo available as an extra. >>>>> >>>>> When adding a search term to the search field on MW 1.27 like e.g. >>>>> "Lorem ipsum" (note: including the ") than only the page names for the >>>>> findings are shown and not the page names and some text extract wrapping >>>>> the searched term as MW 1.23 did. When adding just Lorem ipsum (note: >>>>> excluding the ") I get the page names and some text extract wrapping the >>>>> searched term as I did with 1.23. The results for Lorem ipsum however >>>>> are a much worse fit than for "Lorem ipsum" so that's why I am here. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps I missed some setting I now have to make or perhaps there is >>>>> some script I overlooked to get things running. I'd like to get the >>>>> wrapping text back. Pointers highly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your time >>>>> >>>>> Karsten >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>>>> To unsubscribe, go to: >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>>> To unsubscribe, go to: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>> To unsubscribe, go to: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> MediaWiki-l mailing list >> To unsubscribe, go to: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l> > > _______________________________________________ > discovery mailing list > discovery@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:discovery@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery> _______________________________________________ discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:discovery@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery>
Thanks Karsten,
I created : - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167798 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167800
Please feel free to add more context: - screenshots would greatly help I think - step by step example to reproduce T167800 would be great
I did not created the issue related to ranking since it's nearly impossible to debug them without precise examples and a full dataset, but feel free to add some comments about it to T167798 if you think it's important.
Thanks!
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:39 PM, [[kgh]] mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de wrote:
Heiya and ouch,
thanks a lot Chris for making me aware of the post. You mail went directly to the spam folder and David's did not even get that far (lost in the void :( ). In future I will just monitor the archive for new posts to be sure. :|
ad 1 - highlighting) Affirmative, so one hast to access the page to see where exactly the phrase shows up.
ad 2 - ranking) I cannot tell for sure but I my impression is yes.
ad 3 - missing content) This was part of Tom's oberservation, but yes I experience that too. Even after running "rebuildtextindex.php" pages did not show up in the search - not even title matches.
I have still one wiki on MW 1.23 so I could do before and after testing to be able to provide a better picture.
So I guess it is time to move to phabricator.
Cheers and thanks a lot for your feedback.
Karsten
quote lost e-mail:
Hi,
to clarify:
- highlighting: When searching with double quotes (phrase search) only the
title is displayed in the search results, the text snippet with the page content snippet is not displayed. But here the same number results is found between 1.23 and 1.27 it just lacks some snippet for the page content? 2) ranking: When searching without quotes, the snippet for the page content is shown but the results are worse (compared to the phrase search or compared to MW1.23?) 3) missing content: When searching wikitext tags: a lot of pages are missing: this is not a highlighting problem here: when I searched for *<tag> *with MW 1.23: 50 pages were found, now with MW 1.27 only 3 are found. Does this problem apply only to tags, are there missing pages when searching normal text?
It looks like 3 different bugs to me, could you please confirm. We'll then be able to create some phabricator tickets to continue the discussion there.
Thanks!
Am 02.06.2017 um 00:14 schrieb Chris Koerner:
Hey Karsten, It looks like David asked a few clarifying questions in the thread that may have got lost in the mix.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/discovery/2017-May/001526.html
If I missed a reply somewhere, I apologize. :)
Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison - Discovery Wikimedia Foundation
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:10 PM, [[kgh]] mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de wrote:
Heiya,
I am still in a kinda misery concering this. It will be cool if anyone could either confirm that this is a bug or that I have done something wrong - ideally plus some advice.
Thanks and cheers
Karsten
Am 18.05.2017 um 18:18 schrieb [[kgh]]:
Heiya Pine,
thanks a lot for forwarding my e-mail to discovery. Did not think about this list. I just subscribed for me to be able staying in the loop on
this.
It will be very cool to learn what may cause this problem once people a back in office. To have a somewhat operational search, even in a rudimentary form without Cirrus/Elastica will be great. MW 1.23 was still doing this.
Keeping fingers crossed and thanks a lot again
Cheers
Karsten
Am 17.05.2017 um 04:31 schrieb Pine W:
Cross-posting this to the Discovery mailing list with hopes that
someone
from WMF Discovery can shed some light on this situation.
Pine
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Tom tom@hutch4.us wrote:
I actually think there is a drop in page content results too.
Searching
for example, pages using a tag <FooBar>text</FooBar> would report
content
found in x pages. Now search <FooBar> no content in pages found.
Search
<FooBar no > found on 3 pages but expect 50.
I do want to do more testing. Rebuilding the index seems to be super
fast
unlike before which would take up to a few minutes to complete.
Tom
On May 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, [[kgh]] mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de
wrote:
Heiya,
it's me again. :) Does somebody at least see the issue. Probably a
bug
that should be reported?
Thanks and cheers
Karsten
> Am 09.05.2017 um 16:32 schrieb [[kgh]]: > Heiya, > > I have upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 which was now possible since the > latest release. > > After the process I observe a changed behavior regarding the
rudimentary
> full-text search MediaWiki provides out of the box, i.e. I am not > talking about the Cirrus/Elastica duo available as an extra. > > When adding a search term to the search field on MW 1.27 like e.g. > "Lorem ipsum" (note: including the ") than only the page names for
the
> findings are shown and not the page names and some text extract
wrapping
> the searched term as MW 1.23 did. When adding just Lorem ipsum
(note:
> excluding the ") I get the page names and some text extract
wrapping the
> searched term as I did with 1.23. The results for Lorem ipsum
however
> are a much worse fit than for "Lorem ipsum" so that's why I am here. > > Perhaps I missed some setting I now have to make or perhaps there is > some script I overlooked to get things running. I'd like to get the > wrapping text back. Pointers highly appreciated. > > Thanks for your time > > Karsten > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > To unsubscribe, go to: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list To unsubscribe, go to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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Heiya David,
thanks a lot for your answer and creating the two issues. I have just upgraded a wiki from 1.23 via 1.25 to 1.27 and may now add my findings to them.
Cheers and cu on phab
Karsten
Am 13.06.2017 um 15:48 schrieb David Causse:
Thanks Karsten,
I created :
Please feel free to add more context:
- screenshots would greatly help I think
- step by step example to reproduce T167800 would be great
I did not created the issue related to ranking since it's nearly impossible to debug them without precise examples and a full dataset, but feel free to add some comments about it to T167798 if you think it's important.
Thanks!
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:39 PM, [[kgh]] <mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de mailto:mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de> wrote:
Heiya and ouch, thanks a lot Chris for making me aware of the post. You mail went directly to the spam folder and David's did not even get that far (lost in the void :( ). In future I will just monitor the archive for new posts to be sure. :| ad 1 - highlighting) Affirmative, so one hast to access the page to see where exactly the phrase shows up. ad 2 - ranking) I cannot tell for sure but I my impression is yes. ad 3 - missing content) This was part of Tom's oberservation, but yes I experience that too. Even after running "rebuildtextindex.php" pages did not show up in the search - not even title matches. I have still one wiki on MW 1.23 so I could do before and after testing to be able to provide a better picture. So I guess it is time to move to phabricator. Cheers and thanks a lot for your feedback. Karsten quote lost e-mail: Hi, to clarify: 1) highlighting: When searching with double quotes (phrase search) only the title is displayed in the search results, the text snippet with the page content snippet is not displayed. But here the same number results is found between 1.23 and 1.27 it just lacks some snippet for the page content? 2) ranking: When searching without quotes, the snippet for the page content is shown but the results are worse (compared to the phrase search or compared to MW1.23?) 3) missing content: When searching wikitext tags: a lot of pages are missing: this is not a highlighting problem here: when I searched for *<tag> *with MW 1.23: 50 pages were found, now with MW 1.27 only 3 are found. Does this problem apply only to tags, are there missing pages when searching normal text? It looks like 3 different bugs to me, could you please confirm. We'll then be able to create some phabricator tickets to continue the discussion there. Thanks! Am 02.06.2017 um 00:14 schrieb Chris Koerner:Hey Karsten, It looks like David asked a few clarifying questions in the thread that may have got lost in the mix. https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/discovery/2017-May/001526.html <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/discovery/2017-May/001526.html> If I missed a reply somewhere, I apologize. :) Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison - Discovery Wikimedia Foundation On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:10 PM, [[kgh]] <mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de <mailto:mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de>> wrote: Heiya, I am still in a kinda misery concering this. It will be cool if anyone could either confirm that this is a bug or that I have done something wrong - ideally plus some advice. Thanks and cheers Karsten Am 18.05.2017 um 18:18 schrieb [[kgh]]: > Heiya Pine, > > thanks a lot for forwarding my e-mail to discovery. Did not think about > this list. I just subscribed for me to be able staying in the loop on this. > > It will be very cool to learn what may cause this problem once people a > back in office. To have a somewhat operational search, even in a > rudimentary form without Cirrus/Elastica will be great. MW 1.23 was > still doing this. > > Keeping fingers crossed and thanks a lot again > > Cheers > > Karsten > > > Am 17.05.2017 um 04:31 schrieb Pine W: >> Cross-posting this to the Discovery mailing list with hopes that someone >> from WMF Discovery can shed some light on this situation. >> >> Pine >> >> >> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Tom <tom@hutch4.us <mailto:tom@hutch4.us>> wrote: >> >>> I actually think there is a drop in page content results too. Searching >>> for example, pages using a tag <FooBar>text</FooBar> would report content >>> found in x pages. Now search <FooBar> no content in pages found. Search >>> <FooBar no > found on 3 pages but expect 50. >>> >>> I do want to do more testing. Rebuilding the index seems to be super fast >>> unlike before which would take up to a few minutes to complete. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>>> On May 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, [[kgh]] <mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de <mailto:mediawiki@kghoffmeyer.de>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Heiya, >>>> >>>> it's me again. :) Does somebody at least see the issue. Probably a bug >>>> that should be reported? >>>> >>>> Thanks and cheers >>>> >>>> Karsten >>>> >>>> >>>>> Am 09.05.2017 um 16:32 schrieb [[kgh]]: >>>>> Heiya, >>>>> >>>>> I have upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 which was now possible since the >>>>> latest release. >>>>> >>>>> After the process I observe a changed behavior regarding the rudimentary >>>>> full-text search MediaWiki provides out of the box, i.e. I am not >>>>> talking about the Cirrus/Elastica duo available as an extra. >>>>> >>>>> When adding a search term to the search field on MW 1.27 like e.g. >>>>> "Lorem ipsum" (note: including the ") than only the page names for the >>>>> findings are shown and not the page names and some text extract wrapping >>>>> the searched term as MW 1.23 did. When adding just Lorem ipsum (note: >>>>> excluding the ") I get the page names and some text extract wrapping the >>>>> searched term as I did with 1.23. The results for Lorem ipsum however >>>>> are a much worse fit than for "Lorem ipsum" so that's why I am here. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps I missed some setting I now have to make or perhaps there is >>>>> some script I overlooked to get things running. I'd like to get the >>>>> wrapping text back. Pointers highly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your time >>>>> >>>>> Karsten >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>>>> To unsubscribe, go to: >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>>> To unsubscribe, go to: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MediaWiki-l mailing list >>> To unsubscribe, go to: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> MediaWiki-l mailing list >> To unsubscribe, go to: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l> > > _______________________________________________ > discovery mailing list > discovery@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:discovery@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery> _______________________________________________ discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:discovery@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery>_______________________________________________ discovery mailing list discovery@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:discovery@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery>