Hey,
Snaj[1] and I were thinking.. our communication on IRC is quite a bit scattered. Now, most wikis have a home channel for general chatter separate from their #cvn channel. This makes sense as those will most likely be related to that wiki (e.g. #wikipedia-nl for #cvn-wp-nl, #wikimedia-commons for #cvn-commons etc.).
But for more cvn-centric talk and cross-wiki handling or CVN/SWMT in general (e.g. cloak requests, reporting issues with ClueBot or CVNBot etc.), we've got ourselves spread rather thin:
* #wikimedia-stewards : This one has (in my perception) organically grown to be the most active channel. It's not only for stewards, but also for talking *to* stewards. Something one naturally needs to do as part of cross-wiki monitoring. So it naturally attracts the right crowd. In addition, it's also where global sysop and most other interested parties tend to idle.
* #swmt : Since "sw" is not a single wiki, this is technically the homewiki channel for #cvn-sw
* #swmt-talk : Additional off topic chat channel
* #countervandalism : Right now only used for requesting @countervandalism cloaks and for support with CVN bots and channels etc.
#cvn-sw : People do talk occasionally here as well.
(Did I miss any?)
I'm proposing we shutdown #swmt and #swmt-talk in favour of #wikimedia-stewards, #countervandalism and #cvn-sw.
— Krinkle
I'd be fine with shutting those two down. Until today I didn't know they existed, and I had only talked to SWMT members in #cvn-sw. I also occasionally chat in #countervandalism, so I don't see a need for #swmt and #swmt-talk.
-- GeorgeBarnick
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Krinkle krinklemail@gmail.com wrote:
Hey,
Snaj[1] and I were thinking.. our communication on IRC is quite a bit scattered. Now, most wikis have a home channel for general chatter separate from their #cvn channel. This makes sense as those will most likely be related to that wiki (e.g. #wikipedia-nl for #cvn-wp-nl, #wikimedia-commons for #cvn-commons etc.).
But for more cvn-centric talk and cross-wiki handling or CVN/SWMT in general (e.g. cloak requests, reporting issues with ClueBot or CVNBot etc.), we've got ourselves spread rather thin:
- #wikimedia-stewards : This one has (in my perception) organically grown
to be the most active channel. It's not only for stewards, but also for talking *to* stewards. Something one naturally needs to do as part of cross-wiki monitoring. So it naturally attracts the right crowd. In addition, it's also where global sysop and most other interested parties tend to idle.
- #swmt : Since "sw" is not a single wiki, this is technically the
homewiki channel for #cvn-sw
#swmt-talk : Additional off topic chat channel
#countervandalism : Right now only used for requesting @countervandalism
cloaks and for support with CVN bots and channels etc.
#cvn-sw : People do talk occasionally here as well.
(Did I miss any?)
I'm proposing we shutdown #swmt and #swmt-talk in favour of #wikimedia-stewards, #countervandalism and #cvn-sw.
— Krinkle
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Snajdowski
CVN mailing list CVN@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/cvn
I object to shutting down #swmt-talk as that channel is access-restricted to users with global rights. It has been used at times for useful purposes and discussions not suited to hold in a public venue. I'm also not entirely sure how that channel falls into the jurisdiction of the CVN, it was my understanding that it was administered separately by Barras (Note how Barras is the sole channel founder, and there's no cvn-gc in there).
Snowolf
On 2014-05-24 1115, George Barnick wrote:
I'd be fine with shutting those two down. Until today I didn't know they existed, and I had only talked to SWMT members in #cvn-sw. I also occasionally chat in #countervandalism, so I don't see a need for #swmt and #swmt-talk.
-- GeorgeBarnick
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Krinkle <krinklemail@gmail.com mailto:krinklemail@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, Snaj[1] and I were thinking.. our communication on IRC is quite a bit scattered. Now, most wikis have a home channel for general chatter separate from their #cvn channel. This makes sense as those will most likely be related to that wiki (e.g. #wikipedia-nl for #cvn-wp-nl, #wikimedia-commons for #cvn-commons etc.). But for more cvn-centric talk and cross-wiki handling or CVN/SWMT in general (e.g. cloak requests, reporting issues with ClueBot or CVNBot etc.), we've got ourselves spread rather thin: * #wikimedia-stewards : This one has (in my perception) organically grown to be the most active channel. It's not only for stewards, but also for talking *to* stewards. Something one naturally needs to do as part of cross-wiki monitoring. So it naturally attracts the right crowd. In addition, it's also where global sysop and most other interested parties tend to idle. * #swmt : Since "sw" is not a single wiki, this is technically the homewiki channel for #cvn-sw * #swmt-talk : Additional off topic chat channel * #countervandalism : Right now only used for requesting @countervandalism cloaks and for support with CVN bots and channels etc. #cvn-sw : People do talk occasionally here as well. (Did I miss any?) I'm proposing we shutdown #swmt and #swmt-talk in favour of #wikimedia-stewards, #countervandalism and #cvn-sw. — Krinkle [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Snajdowski _______________________________________________ CVN mailing list CVN@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:CVN@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/cvn
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That channel has been created something like 3 years ago by a former cw vandal fighter to have a partly private place for all global rollbackers, sysops and stewards. The channel has been soon after transferred to me when the original founder left the projects.
It used to be more frequently used some time ago and I personally like the scope of that channel. Some cw deletions, blocks and stuff are sometimes not suited for public discussions and fit better in a private room.
I don’t think that channel is going to be closed.
Am 24.05.2014 um 20:31 schrieb Snowolf ml@snowolf.eu:
I object to shutting down #swmt-talk as that channel is access-restricted to users with global rights. It has been used at times for useful purposes and discussions not suited to hold in a public venue. I'm also not entirely sure how that channel falls into the jurisdiction of the CVN, it was my understanding that it was administered separately by Barras (Note how Barras is the sole channel founder, and there's no cvn-gc in there).
Snowolf
On 2014-05-24 1115, George Barnick wrote:
I'd be fine with shutting those two down. Until today I didn't know they existed, and I had only talked to SWMT members in #cvn-sw. I also occasionally chat in #countervandalism, so I don't see a need for #swmt and #swmt-talk.
-- GeorgeBarnick
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Krinkle <krinklemail@gmail.com mailto:krinklemail@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey,
Snaj[1] and I were thinking.. our communication on IRC is quite a bit scattered. Now, most wikis have a home channel for general chatter separate from their #cvn channel. This makes sense as those will most likely be related to that wiki (e.g. #wikipedia-nl for #cvn-wp-nl, #wikimedia-commons for #cvn-commons etc.).
But for more cvn-centric talk and cross-wiki handling or CVN/SWMT in general (e.g. cloak requests, reporting issues with ClueBot or CVNBot etc.), we've got ourselves spread rather thin:
- #wikimedia-stewards : This one has (in my perception) organically
grown to be the most active channel. It's not only for stewards, but also for talking *to* stewards. Something one naturally needs to do as part of cross-wiki monitoring. So it naturally attracts the right crowd. In addition, it's also where global sysop and most other interested parties tend to idle.
- #swmt : Since "sw" is not a single wiki, this is technically the
homewiki channel for #cvn-sw
#swmt-talk : Additional off topic chat channel
#countervandalism : Right now only used for requesting
@countervandalism cloaks and for support with CVN bots and channels etc.
#cvn-sw : People do talk occasionally here as well.
(Did I miss any?)
I'm proposing we shutdown #swmt and #swmt-talk in favour of #wikimedia-stewards, #countervandalism and #cvn-sw.
— Krinkle
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Snajdowski
CVN mailing list CVN@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:CVN@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/cvn
CVN mailing list CVN@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/cvn
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