Hello everyone,
Wishathon is a new initiative that encourages collaboration across the
Wikimedia community to develop solutions for wishes collected through the
Community Wishlist Survey: <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey>. The inaugural
community edition will take place from *March 15th to 17th, 2024*. You can
learn more and sign up here: <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event:WishathonMarch2024>.
Since May 2022, the Community Tech team has organized five Wishathons <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Wishathon> internal to
Foundation staff to bring greater technical capacity to address open wishes
and promote collaboration on wishes within the product & technology teams.
Since the inception of the Wishathon, Foundation staff have helped
Community Tech complete work on 10 wishes that were otherwise stalling or
incomplete. This next edition of the Wishathon extends to Wikimedia
contributors as a next step in these efforts.
If you are interested in a project proposal as a user, developer, designer,
or product lead, you are welcome to join the event! If you wish to take
part in the Wishathon, you can register for the event on this wiki page: <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event:WishathonMarch2024>. Organizers will
send a message to your talk page with more details about the event in
January 2024 and post updates on this page.
Read the full announcement: <
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/12/11/introducing-wishathon-for-wikimedias-…>
Cheers,
Srishti
On behalf of the Wishathon organizing committee
(Harumi, TheresNoTime, Karolin, Mary, Sheila, Srishti)
*Srishti Sethi*
Senior Developer Advocate
Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
Hello!
After our initial announcement of the Grid Engine shutdown timeline[0],
some of you raised concerns about losing your tools.
We want to address those apprehensions while hopefully providing
reassurance. No tools will be deleted until the grid engine shutdown date
on 14 February 2023. However, for tools with unreachable maintainers, an
outage will happen starting on 14 December 2023[1]. This is intended to
raise awareness for users or maintainers who have not otherwise been
reached. A list of these tools can be found here[2]. If you are a
maintainer or a user of a tool in this list, comment on the associated
phabricator ticket with migration plans or a request for more support. The
goal is to have a plan for all tools running on the grid. We want all
actively used tools to be migrated, and will help support users of critical
tools without a maintainer. Thanks for your help in identifying and
migrating those tools you maintain and depend on.
We acknowledge that the timeline might seem tight, and we want to clarify
that our approach is to make this process as seamless as possible. We have
been actively engaging with tool maintainers over the past year, and we
genuinely appreciate the efforts many of you have already made to migrate
your tools to Kubernetes.
We will continue to work closely with maintainers who might need additional
time or assistance.
If for any reason you have not received a phabricator ticket for your tool,
please reach out.
The phabricator ticket is a good place to communicate your needs and plans
for any remaining tools or jobs.
This will help us further organize and plan this process.
Our primary goal is to support you through this transition. If you have
further concerns about the deadline or if you need assistance with the
migration process, please don't hesitate to reach out to us. We are
available on IRC, Telegram, Phabricator[3], and through our other support
channels[4].
Do you still have concerns or questions? Please let us know. We want to do
this together with you, in a way which makes sense to everyone. We’re very
grateful for all the hard work you do, and our only goal here is to secure
the future of tools in the Wikimedia sphere, not to make your lives more
difficult.
Thank you!
[0]:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud-announce@lists.wikimedia.…
[1]:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Toolforge_Grid_Engine_deprecation#…
[2]:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Toolforge_Grid_Engine_deprecation/…
[3]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/6135/
[4]:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portal:Toolforge/About_Toolforge#Commun…
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Seyram Komla Sapaty
Developer Advocate
Wikimedia Cloud Services
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On Dec 7, 2023 at 07:00:08, cloud-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Hello Amory,
>
> We reached out directly on several occasions to maintainers via email,
> phabricator and announcements were made on the mailing list.
> What's the username you use and is this the same email address you use? Let
> me crosscheck this again.
Yes, I’m individually aware, but I was trying to note that, given I had not
been directly contacted (via assigned phab task, etc.) AFAICT, it appeared
possible some tools were being missed. For example, I am not listed on <
https://grid-deprecation.toolforge.org>.
~A
Hello, all!
Starting today we are kicking off the process to shut down Grid Engine and
we want to share the timeline with you.
== Background ==
WMCS made the Grid Engine available as a backend engine for hosting tools
on Toolforge - our Platform as a Service(PaaS) offering.
An additional backend engine, Kubernetes, was also made available on
Toolforge.
Over time, maintaining and securing the grid has proven to be difficult and
making it harder to provide support to the community in other ways because
a lot of man-hours of maintenance work is spent on this.
This is mainly due to the fact that there has been no new Grid Engine
releases (bug fixes, security patches, or otherwise) since 2016.[0]
Maintenance work on the grid continued because it was widely popular with
the community and the Kubernetes offering didn't yet have many grid-like
features that contributors came to love.
Once the Kubernetes platform could handle many of the workloads, we started
the grid deprecation process by asking maintainers to migrate off the
grid.[1]
Over the past year, we've been reaching out to our tool maintainers and
working with them to migrate their tools off the Grid to Kubernetes.
We have reached out directly to all maintainers with their phabricator
ticket IDs.
The latest updates to Build Service[2] have addressed many of the issues
that prevented tool maintainers from migrating.
== Initial Timeline ==
The detailed grid shutdown timeline is available on wiki.[3] The important
dates have been copied below.
* 14th December, 2023: Any maintainer who has not responded on phabricator
will have tools shutdown and crontabs commented out. Please plan to migrate
or tell us your plans on phabricator before that date.
* 14th February, 2024: The grid is completely shut down. All tools are
stopped.
If you need further clarification or help migrating your tool, don't
hesitate to reach out to us on IRC, Telegram, Phabricator[4] or via any of
our support channels.[5]
Thank you.
[0]: https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2022/03/14/toolforge-and-grid-engine/
[1]:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Toolforge_Grid_Engine_deprecation
[2]: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Build_Service
[3]:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Toolforge_Grid_Engine_deprecation#…
[4]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/6135/
[5]:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portal:Toolforge/About_Toolforge#Commun…
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Wikimedia Cloud Services
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Is there also the chance that those numbers are an undercount? I've got a
bunch of simple cron tasks but they're using jlocal, not jsub, and I don't
appear to have been contacted. The documentation vaguely alludes to this,
but I wonder if there are a number of other tools/maintainers who have also
fallen through the cracks.
~A
We are experiencing networking issues on Cloud VPS, which means
currently no traffic is getting in or out of Cloud VPS. Toolforge is
also down.
We are working on it and progress is tracked at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T352539
We will send an update when things are working again, thanks for your patience.
--
Francesco Negri (he/him) -- IRC: dhinus
Site Reliability Engineer, Cloud Services team
Wikimedia Foundation
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Hi all! This is a reminder that the language community meeting is coming up
this Friday, November 17th, from 16:00 to 17:00 (UTC).
Feel free to add any technical updates or challenges related to your
project that you would like to share during the meeting to the agenda
document.
Learn more details: <
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Language_engineering/…
>
Cheers,
Srishti
*Srishti Sethi*
Senior Developer Advocate
Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 2:47 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter <
ndahiroderric(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the invitation , for the technical issues around
> kinyarwanda wiki , I have to attend alongside my fellow kinyarwanda
> contributors
>
> derrick
>
>
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 00:32 Srishti Sethi <ssethi(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> The first language community meeting is coming up in a few weeks -
>> November 17th, 16:00 UTC.
>>
>> If you're interested, you can sign up on this wiki page: <
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Language_engineering/…>
>> [1].
>>
>> We would like to invite all of you who are involved in creating content
>> or managing technical aspects across different language communities. This
>> will be a participant-driven meeting, where we collectively discuss
>> specific technical issues related to our language wikis and work together
>> to find possible solutions. This could involve anything from fixing a
>> broken template on the Kurdish wiki to brainstorming ideas for growing
>> content on the Tulu Wiktionary, currently in the Wikimedia Incubator, or
>> celebrating the creation of Fon Wikipedia, to using MinT for content
>> translation.
>>
>> You can view the meeting structure and add ideas for discussion to the
>> notes document here: <
>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/language-community-meeting-november-2023>
>> [2]
>>
>> If you need interpretation support from English to another language,
>> please let us know by sending an email to ssethi(a)wikimedia.org.
>>
>> Looking forward to your participation!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Srishti & Jon
>>
>> [1]
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Language_engineering/…
>>
>> [2]
>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/language-community-meeting-november-2023
>>
>> *Srishti Sethi*
>> Senior Developer Advocate
>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>>
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Hello!
The 2022 Cloud Services results have been published!
We had 159 participants who responded and provided valuable feedback and
suggestions.
For the first time, we moved from Google Forms to using LimeSurvey.
Some of you have long requested for this change and we will continue to use
LimeSurvey going forward.
The publication of the results have delayed but it's finally here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Cloud_Services_Annual_Survey/2022
Thanks to everyone who participated and provided input and comments!
We will launch the 2023 Cloud Services survey next month!
Thank you!
--
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Developer Advocate
Wikimedia Cloud Services
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Hi,
Wikimedia Chat, is a mattermost instance hosted in chat.wmcloud.org and
meet is a jitsi instance hosted in meet.wmcloud.org (both are shut down
now).
I made these two services back in 2020 when we were all in lock-down and
stuck at our homes and virtual social tools were scarce. I wanted it to be
a way to connect to fellow wikimedians.
We are no longer in lockdown and a lot of virtual social tools have
emerged, I'm sure there are many many jitsi and mattermost instances out
there. and on top of that, I really don't have the capacity to maintain
these services anymore.
Here is a call for people who are willing to take over the maintenance, if
no one shows up by end of November, I'll hand over the projects for
deletion.
Best
--
Amir (he/him)