On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Chase Pettet cpettet@wikimedia.org wrote:
== On OpenStack and Ubuntu/Debian ==
Ack. If we can get to Pike without having to solve the more advanced OpenStack sourcing issue we are buying some time for Kolla or some other upstream solution that we can adopt rather than rolling our own deploy-from-source setup.
== On monitoring and alerting ==
Ack. Anything all y'all roots can work out for alerting is a-ok with me. Honestly my involvement at this point is figuring out how to sign the checks if we need to move to something like PagerDuty.
== Naming (the worst of all things) ==
==== cloud ====
Ack. "cloud" works for me.
==== labtest ====
Or open to suggestion, but we need to settle on something this week.
Half ack.
My main input here is that "i" for "internal" makes some logical sense, but visually "cloudfoo" vs "cloudifoo" is hard to spot the difference (at least in the tiny fonts I use for things). "cloudxfoo" or "cloudwfoo" has more visual differentiation. What do "x" or "w" stand for? meh. we can make up a backronym after picking a visually 'wide' character like x, w, or m.
==== deployments and regions (oh my) =====
===== proposed situation =====
Under the flat domain constraints that the larger SRE group seems to favor, I feel that all hierarchies are going to look and feel weird. In a more perfect world we would use subdomains to name clusters within datacenters and get the benefit of *actual* hierarchy. Baring that, faux namespacing can be workable, but omitting delimiters makes visual parsing painful. I get the s/-/_/ horror, but since puppet bans '-' and dns bans '_' it seems inevitable.
In the big picture though, I'm fine with pretty much anything that all y'all can agree on. We have 5 SREs on the team, so ties should be difficult. ;)
I, absurdly, have more to write but this is enough for a single email. Implications for Neutron actually happening, Debian, next wave of reboots, team practices, and more will be separate. Please ack this and provide feedback or I'm a runaway train.
Choo choo! Making decisions is hard, but it has to be done. I'm glad that you are doing it, and also taking the time to ask for feedback.
Bryan