On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Chase Pettet <cpettet(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
== On OpenStack and Ubuntu/Debian ==
Ack. If we can get to Pike without having to solve the more advanced
OpenStack sourcing issue we are buying some time for Kolla or some
other upstream solution that we can adopt rather than rolling our own
deploy-from-source setup.
== On monitoring and alerting ==
Ack. Anything all y'all roots can work out for alerting is a-ok with
me. Honestly my involvement at this point is figuring out how to sign
the checks if we need to move to something like PagerDuty.
== Naming (the worst of all things) ==
==== cloud ====
Ack. "cloud" works for me.
==== labtest ====
Or open to suggestion, but we need to settle on something this week.
Half ack.
My main input here is that "i" for "internal" makes some logical
sense, but visually "cloudfoo" vs "cloudifoo" is hard to spot the
difference (at least in the tiny fonts I use for things). "cloudxfoo"
or "cloudwfoo" has more visual differentiation. What do "x" or
"w"
stand for? meh. we can make up a backronym after picking a visually
'wide' character like x, w, or m.
==== deployments and regions (oh my) =====
===== proposed situation =====
Under the flat domain constraints that the larger SRE group seems to
favor, I feel that all hierarchies are going to look and feel weird.
In a more perfect world we would use subdomains to name clusters
within datacenters and get the benefit of *actual* hierarchy. Baring
that, faux namespacing can be workable, but omitting delimiters makes
visual parsing painful. I get the s/-/_/ horror, but since puppet bans
'-' and dns bans '_' it seems inevitable.
In the big picture though, I'm fine with pretty much anything that all
y'all can agree on. We have 5 SREs on the team, so ties should be
difficult. ;)
I, absurdly, have more to write but this is enough for
a single email.
Implications for Neutron actually happening, Debian, next wave of reboots,
team practices, and more will be separate. Please ack this and provide
feedback or I'm a runaway train.
Choo choo! Making decisions is hard, but it has to be done. I'm glad
that you are doing it, and also taking the time to ask for feedback.
Bryan
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