Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help!
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Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol we followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned in certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails from lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So there is a reason to do this.
Thanks,
Pine
Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :)
On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help!
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Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol we followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned in certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails from lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So there is a reason to do this.
Thanks,
Pine
Hey all,
Just a friendly reminder if there has been any news on this thread. Thanks again for helping!
Hirav
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help!
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." analytics@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis Message-ID: CAF=dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol we followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned in certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails from lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So there is a reason to do this.
Thanks,
Pine
Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for this and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal).
Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic, broken down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a 60-day period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data point with the smallest number of observations?
Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we start working on projects such as https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
Dario
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Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :)
On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help!
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Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol we followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned in certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails from lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So there
is a
reason to do this.
Thanks,
Pine
Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a specific reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset encompassing aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the job.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for this and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal).
Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic, broken down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a 60-day period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data point with the smallest number of observations?
Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we start working on projects such as https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
Dario
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :)
On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help!
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." analytics@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis Message-ID: <CAF=
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Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol we followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned in certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails from lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So there
is a
reason to do this.
Thanks,
Pine
Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a popular site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia would be easier.
If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we would need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. Some languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more daily seasonality than languages like English.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a specific reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset encompassing aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the job. Dario On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for this and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal).
Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic, broken down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a 60-day period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data point with the smallest number of observations?
Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we start working on projects such as https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
Dario
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :)
On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help!
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Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol we followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned in certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails from lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So there
is a
reason to do this.
Thanks,
Pine
e.g. German*
I need more coffee.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a popular site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia would be easier. If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we would need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. Some languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more daily seasonality than languages like English. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a specific reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset encompassing aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the job. Dario On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli < dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for this and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal).
Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic, broken down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a 60-day period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data point with the smallest number of observations?
Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we start working on projects such as https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
Dario
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :)
On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help!
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Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol we followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned in certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails from lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So there
is a
reason to do this.
Thanks,
Pine
Dario,
No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop; mobile and desktop are grouped.
On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
e.g. German*
I need more coffee.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a popular site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia would be easier.
If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we would need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. Some languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more daily seasonality than languages like English.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a specific reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset encompassing aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the job.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for this and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal).
Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic, broken down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a 60-day period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data point with the smallest number of observations?
Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we start working on projects such as https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
Dario
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :)
On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help!
> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org > wrote: > > Send Analytics mailing list submissions to > analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Pine W) > 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Hirav > Gandhi) > 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Oliver > Keyes) > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 > From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com > To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who > has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." > analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than hourly > basis > Message-ID: > > CAF=dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol we > followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned > in > certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails > from > lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So > there is a > reason to do this. > > Thanks, > > Pine >
thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders filtered or mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver.
Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward with this release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dario,
No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop; mobile and desktop are grouped.
On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
e.g. German*
I need more coffee.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a popular site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia would
be
easier.
If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we would need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. Some languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more daily seasonality than languages like English.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a specific reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset encompassing aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the job.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for
this
and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal).
Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic,
broken
down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a
60-day
period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data
point
with the smallest number of observations?
Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we
start
working on projects such as
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits
and
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
Dario
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :)
On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com
wrote:
> Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help! > >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM,
analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org
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>> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Pine W) >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Hirav >> Gandhi) >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Oliver >> Keyes) >> >> >> >>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol
we
>> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned >> in >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails >> from >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So >> there is a >> reason to do this. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pine >>
Cool. In that case, I will generate a dump for all the data we have, report back when done, and if there are no issues with releasing it, tarball it up and put it on figshare :)
On 15 April 2015 at 13:27, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders filtered or mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver.
Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward with this release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dario,
No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop; mobile and desktop are grouped.
On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
e.g. German*
I need more coffee.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a popular site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia would be easier.
If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we would need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. Some languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more daily seasonality than languages like English.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a specific reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset encompassing aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the job.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for this and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal).
Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic, broken down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a 60-day period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data point with the smallest number of observations?
Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we start working on projects such as
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits and
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
Dario
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) > > On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com > wrote: > > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help! > > > >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, > >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org > >> wrote: > >> > >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to > >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > >> specific > >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Pine W) > >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Hirav > >> Gandhi) > >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Oliver > >> Keyes) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 > >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com > >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody > >> who > >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." > >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than > >> hourly > >> basis > >> Message-ID: > >> > >> > >> CAF=dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol > >> we > >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and > >> mentioned > >> in > >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move > >> emails > >> from > >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So > >> there is a > >> reason to do this. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Pine > >>
Hi Dario,
One last question - would it be possible to break it out into mobile vs desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects in there as well. Please let us know.
Best,
Hirav
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders filtered or mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver. Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward with this release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions. Dario On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dario,
No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop; mobile and desktop are grouped.
On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
e.g. German*
I need more coffee.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a popular site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia would
be
easier.
If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we would need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. Some languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more daily seasonality than languages like English.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a specific reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset encompassing aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the job.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for
this
and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal).
Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic,
broken
down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a
60-day
period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data
point
with the smallest number of observations?
Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we
start
working on projects such as
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits
and
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
Dario
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) > > On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com
wrote:
> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help! > > > >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM,
analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> wrote: > >> > >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to > >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
specific
> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Pine W) > >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Hirav > >> Gandhi) > >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Oliver > >> Keyes) > >> > >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 > >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com > >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody
who
> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." > >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than hourly > >> basis > >> Message-ID: > >> > >> <CAF=
dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol
we
> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and mentioned > >> in > >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move emails > >> from > >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So > >> there is a > >> reason to do this. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Pine > >>
/This/ you say 2.5 seconds after I've launched the query ;p. Yes, it is possible, but I'll have to recalculate the likely minimum and check that it's still okay.
On 15 April 2015 at 13:32, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dario,
One last question - would it be possible to break it out into mobile vs desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects in there as well. Please let us know.
Best,
Hirav
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders filtered or mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver.
Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward with this release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dario,
No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop; mobile and desktop are grouped.
On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
e.g. German*
I need more coffee.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a popular site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia would be easier.
If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we would need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. Some languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more daily seasonality than languages like English.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a specific reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset encompassing aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the job.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing > this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for > this > and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal). > > Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate > pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic, > broken > down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a > 60-day > period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data > point > with the smallest number of observations? > > Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we > start > working on projects such as > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits > and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi... > > Dario > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org > wrote: >> >> Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) >> >> On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com >> wrote: >> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help! >> > >> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, >> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to >> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >> >> specific >> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." >> >> >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> >> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Pine >> >> W) >> >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Hirav >> >> Gandhi) >> >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Oliver >> >> Keyes) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 >> >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com >> >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody >> >> who >> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than >> >> hourly >> >> basis >> >> Message-ID: >> >> >> >> >> >> CAF=dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol >> >> we >> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and >> >> mentioned >> >> in >> >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move >> >> emails >> >> from >> >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So >> >> there is a >> >> reason to do this. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Pine >> >>
Sorry Oliver. Let me know where I can send the beer/coffee money to compensate you for the hard work :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
/This/ you say 2.5 seconds after I've launched the query ;p. Yes, it is possible, but I'll have to recalculate the likely minimum and check that it's still okay. On 15 April 2015 at 13:32, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dario,
One last question - would it be possible to break it out into mobile vs desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects in there as well. Please let us know.
Best,
Hirav
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders filtered or mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver.
Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward with this release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dario,
No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop; mobile and desktop are grouped.
On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
e.g. German*
I need more coffee.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a popular site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia would be easier.
If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we would need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. Some languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more daily seasonality than languages like English.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a specific > reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset encompassing > aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the job. > > Dario > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli > dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >> >> Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine releasing >> this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable for >> this >> and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal). >> >> Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate >> pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic, >> broken >> down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for a >> 60-day >> period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the data >> point >> with the smallest number of observations? >> >> Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we >> start >> working on projects such as >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits >> and >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi... >> >> Dario >> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org >> wrote: >>> >>> Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) >>> >>> On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help! >>> > >>> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, >>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to >>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> >>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> >>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >>> >> specific >>> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Today's Topics: >>> >> >>> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Pine >>> >> W) >>> >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Hirav >>> >> Gandhi) >>> >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Oliver >>> >> Keyes) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >>> >> Message: 1 >>> >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 >>> >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com >>> >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody >>> >> who >>> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than >>> >> hourly >>> >> basis >>> >> Message-ID: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> CAF=dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >> >>> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the protocol >>> >> we >>> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and >>> >> mentioned >>> >> in >>> >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move >>> >> emails >>> >> from >>> >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. So >>> >> there is a >>> >> reason to do this. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> >>> >> Pine >>> >>
I accept payment in books, pull requests and speaking invitations ;p.
(Updated check-the-minimum query running now!)
On 15 April 2015 at 13:35, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry Oliver. Let me know where I can send the beer/coffee money to compensate you for the hard work :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
/This/ you say 2.5 seconds after I've launched the query ;p. Yes, it is possible, but I'll have to recalculate the likely minimum and check that it's still okay.
On 15 April 2015 at 13:32, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dario,
One last question - would it be possible to break it out into mobile vs desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects in there as well. Please let us know.
Best,
Hirav
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders filtered or mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver.
Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward with this release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dario,
No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop; mobile and desktop are grouped.
On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
e.g. German*
I need more coffee.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote: > > Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a > popular > site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia > would be > easier. > > If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we > would > need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. > Some > languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more > daily > seasonality than languages like English. > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli > dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >> >> Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a >> specific >> reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset >> encompassing >> aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the >> job. >> >> Dario >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli >> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >>> >>> Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine >>> releasing >>> this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be valuable >>> for >>> this >>> and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal). >>> >>> Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate >>> pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot traffic, >>> broken >>> down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps) for >>> a >>> 60-day >>> period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the >>> data >>> point >>> with the smallest number of observations? >>> >>> Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when we >>> start >>> working on projects such as >>> >>> >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits >>> and >>> >>> >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi... >>> >>> Dario >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes >>> okeyes@wikimedia.org >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) >>>> >>>> On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help! >>>> > >>>> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, >>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to >>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >> >>>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >> >>>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >> >>>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >>>> >> specific >>>> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Today's Topics: >>>> >> >>>> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Pine >>>> >> W) >>>> >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis (Hirav >>>> >> Gandhi) >>>> >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis >>>> >> (Oliver >>>> >> Keyes) >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> >>>> >> Message: 1 >>>> >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 >>>> >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com >>>> >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and >>>> >> everybody >>>> >> who >>>> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than >>>> >> hourly >>>> >> basis >>>> >> Message-ID: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> CAF=dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com >>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the >>>> >> protocol >>>> >> we >>>> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and >>>> >> mentioned >>>> >> in >>>> >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move >>>> >> emails >>>> >> from >>>> >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for days. >>>> >> So >>>> >> there is a >>>> >> reason to do this. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks, >>>> >> >>>> >> Pine >>>> >>
Interested in an Erlang book? :P Pretty sure I have one of those laying around here...
Cheers, Bharath ᐧ
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I accept payment in books, pull requests and speaking invitations ;p.
(Updated check-the-minimum query running now!)
On 15 April 2015 at 13:35, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry Oliver. Let me know where I can send the beer/coffee money to compensate you for the hard work :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org
wrote:
/This/ you say 2.5 seconds after I've launched the query ;p. Yes, it is possible, but I'll have to recalculate the likely minimum and check that it's still okay.
On 15 April 2015 at 13:32, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dario,
One last question - would it be possible to break it out into mobile
vs
desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects in there as well. Please let us know.
Best,
Hirav
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders
filtered
or mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver.
Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward with this release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dario,
No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop; mobile and desktop are grouped.
On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote: > e.g. German* > > I need more coffee. > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi > hirav.gandhi@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a >> popular >> site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia >> would be >> easier. >> >> If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we >> would >> need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. >> Some >> languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more >> daily >> seasonality than languages like English. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli >> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >>> >>> Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a >>> specific >>> reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset >>> encompassing >>> aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the >>> job. >>> >>> Dario >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli >>> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >>>> >>>> Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine >>>> releasing >>>> this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be
valuable
>>>> for >>>> this >>>> and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal). >>>> >>>> Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate >>>> pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot
traffic,
>>>> broken >>>> down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps)
for
>>>> a >>>> 60-day >>>> period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the >>>> data >>>> point >>>> with the smallest number of observations? >>>> >>>> Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when
we
>>>> start >>>> working on projects such as >>>> >>>> >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits
>>>> and >>>> >>>> >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
>>>> >>>> Dario >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes >>>> okeyes@wikimedia.org >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) >>>>> >>>>> On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi <
hirav.gandhi@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help! >>>>> > >>>>> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> >> >>>>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help'
to
>>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> >> >>>>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> >> >>>>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >>>>> >> specific >>>>> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Today's Topics: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Pine
>>>>> >> W) >>>>> >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Hirav
>>>>> >> Gandhi) >>>>> >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis >>>>> >> (Oliver >>>>> >> Keyes) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >>>>> >> Message: 1 >>>>> >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 >>>>> >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com >>>>> >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and >>>>> >> everybody >>>>> >> who >>>>> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than >>>>> >> hourly >>>>> >> basis >>>>> >> Message-ID: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> <CAF=
dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the >>>>> >> protocol >>>>> >> we >>>>> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and >>>>> >> mentioned >>>>> >> in >>>>> >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move >>>>> >> emails >>>>> >> from >>>>> >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for
days.
>>>>> >> So >>>>> >> there is a >>>>> >> reason to do this. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Pine >>>>> >>
And thanks for doing all of this for us! We do greatly appreciate it!
Cheers, Bharath ᐧ
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Bharath Sitaraman <bharath@cs.stanford.edu
wrote:
Interested in an Erlang book? :P Pretty sure I have one of those laying around here...
Cheers, Bharath ᐧ
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I accept payment in books, pull requests and speaking invitations ;p.
(Updated check-the-minimum query running now!)
On 15 April 2015 at 13:35, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry Oliver. Let me know where I can send the beer/coffee money to compensate you for the hard work :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org
wrote:
/This/ you say 2.5 seconds after I've launched the query ;p. Yes, it is possible, but I'll have to recalculate the likely minimum and check that it's still okay.
On 15 April 2015 at 13:32, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Dario,
One last question - would it be possible to break it out into mobile
vs
desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects in there as well. Please let us know.
Best,
Hirav
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders
filtered
or mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver.
Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward with this release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes@wikimedia.org
wrote: > > Dario, > > No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop;
mobile
> and desktop are grouped. > > On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com > wrote: > > e.g. German* > > > > I need more coffee. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi > > hirav.gandhi@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> > >> Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a > >> popular > >> site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English
Wikipedia
> >> would be > >> easier. > >> > >> If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites,
we
> >> would > >> need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. > >> Some > >> languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more > >> daily > >> seasonality than languages like English. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli > >> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: > >>> > >>> Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a > >>> specific > >>> reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset > >>> encompassing > >>> aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do
the
> >>> job. > >>> > >>> Dario > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli > >>> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine > >>>> releasing > >>>> this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be
valuable
> >>>> for > >>>> this > >>>> and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal). > >>>> > >>>> Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs:
aggregate
> >>>> pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot
traffic,
> >>>> broken > >>>> down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps)
for
> >>>> a > >>>> 60-day > >>>> period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify
the
> >>>> data > >>>> point > >>>> with the smallest number of observations? > >>>> > >>>> Obviously, we will need to take into account this release
when we
> >>>> start > >>>> working on projects such as > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits
> >>>> and > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
> >>>> > >>>> Dario > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes > >>>> okeyes@wikimedia.org > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) > >>>>> > >>>>> On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi <
hirav.gandhi@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your
help!
> >>>>> > > >>>>> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, > >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to > >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >>>>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help'
to
> >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>>>> >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > >>>>> >> specific > >>>>> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Today's Topics: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Pine
> >>>>> >> W) > >>>>> >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Hirav
> >>>>> >> Gandhi) > >>>>> >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis > >>>>> >> (Oliver > >>>>> >> Keyes) > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Message: 1 > >>>>> >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 > >>>>> >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com > >>>>> >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and > >>>>> >> everybody > >>>>> >> who > >>>>> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." > >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent
than
> >>>>> >> hourly > >>>>> >> basis > >>>>> >> Message-ID: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> <CAF=
dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com>
> >>>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the > >>>>> >> protocol > >>>>> >> we > >>>>> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and > >>>>> >> mentioned > >>>>> >> in > >>>>> >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically
move
> >>>>> >> emails > >>>>> >> from > >>>>> >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for
days.
> >>>>> >> So > >>>>> >> there is a > >>>>> >> reason to do this. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Thanks, > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Pine > >>>>> >>
Looks good to me!
-M
== Michelle Paulson Senior Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street, 6th Floor San Francisco, CA 94105 mpaulson@wikimedia.org 415.839.6885 ext. 6608 (Office) 415.882.0495 (Fax)
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Bharath Sitaraman <bharath@cs.stanford.edu
wrote:
And thanks for doing all of this for us! We do greatly appreciate it!
Cheers, Bharath ᐧ
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Bharath Sitaraman < bharath@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
Interested in an Erlang book? :P Pretty sure I have one of those laying around here...
Cheers, Bharath ᐧ
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I accept payment in books, pull requests and speaking invitations ;p.
(Updated check-the-minimum query running now!)
On 15 April 2015 at 13:35, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry Oliver. Let me know where I can send the beer/coffee money to compensate you for the hard work :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org
wrote:
/This/ you say 2.5 seconds after I've launched the query ;p. Yes, it is possible, but I'll have to recalculate the likely minimum and check that it's still okay.
On 15 April 2015 at 13:32, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Dario,
One last question - would it be possible to break it out into
mobile vs
desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects in there as well. Please let us know.
Best,
Hirav
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: > > thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders
filtered
> or > mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver. > > Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward
with
> this > release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions. > > Dario > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes <
okeyes@wikimedia.org>
> wrote: >> >> Dario, >> >> No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop;
mobile
>> and desktop are grouped. >> >> On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com >> wrote: >> > e.g. German* >> > >> > I need more coffee. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi >> > hirav.gandhi@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a >> >> popular >> >> site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English
Wikipedia
>> >> would be >> >> easier. >> >> >> >> If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites,
we
>> >> would >> >> need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. >> >> Some >> >> languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have
more
>> >> daily >> >> seasonality than languages like English. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli >> >> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a >> >>> specific >> >>> reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset >> >>> encompassing >> >>> aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do
the
>> >>> job. >> >>> >> >>> Dario >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli >> >>> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine >> >>>> releasing >> >>>> this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be
valuable
>> >>>> for >> >>>> this >> >>>> and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal). >> >>>> >> >>>> Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs:
aggregate
>> >>>> pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot
traffic,
>> >>>> broken >> >>>> down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps)
for
>> >>>> a >> >>>> 60-day >> >>>> period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify
the
>> >>>> data >> >>>> point >> >>>> with the smallest number of observations? >> >>>> >> >>>> Obviously, we will need to take into account this release
when we
>> >>>> start >> >>>> working on projects such as >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits
>> >>>> and >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
>> >>>> >> >>>> Dario >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes >> >>>> okeyes@wikimedia.org >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi <
hirav.gandhi@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your
help!
>> >>>>> > >> >>>>> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, >> >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to >> >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >>>>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body
'help' to
>> >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >>>>> >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is
more
>> >>>>> >> specific >> >>>>> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Today's Topics: >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Pine
>> >>>>> >> W) >> >>>>> >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Hirav
>> >>>>> >> Gandhi) >> >>>>> >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis >> >>>>> >> (Oliver >> >>>>> >> Keyes) >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Message: 1 >> >>>>> >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 >> >>>>> >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com >> >>>>> >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and >> >>>>> >> everybody >> >>>>> >> who >> >>>>> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >> >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent
than
>> >>>>> >> hourly >> >>>>> >> basis >> >>>>> >> Message-ID: >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> <CAF=
dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com>
>> >>>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the >> >>>>> >> protocol >> >>>>> >> we >> >>>>> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and >> >>>>> >> mentioned >> >>>>> >> in >> >>>>> >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically
move
>> >>>>> >> emails >> >>>>> >> from >> >>>>> >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for
days.
>> >>>>> >> So >> >>>>> >> there is a >> >>>>> >> reason to do this. >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Thanks, >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Pine >> >>>>> >>
Note: currently stalled on "the cluster is backlogged and the jam needs to clear before I can run things". My apologies!
On 15 April 2015 at 14:12, Michelle Paulson mpaulson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Looks good to me!
-M
== Michelle Paulson Senior Legal Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 149 New Montgomery Street, 6th Floor San Francisco, CA 94105 mpaulson@wikimedia.org 415.839.6885 ext. 6608 (Office) 415.882.0495 (Fax)
*NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation and for legal/ethical reasons, I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer.*
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Bharath Sitaraman < bharath@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
And thanks for doing all of this for us! We do greatly appreciate it!
Cheers, Bharath ᐧ
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Bharath Sitaraman < bharath@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
Interested in an Erlang book? :P Pretty sure I have one of those laying around here...
Cheers, Bharath ᐧ
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I accept payment in books, pull requests and speaking invitations ;p.
(Updated check-the-minimum query running now!)
On 15 April 2015 at 13:35, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry Oliver. Let me know where I can send the beer/coffee money to compensate you for the hard work :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org
wrote:
/This/ you say 2.5 seconds after I've launched the query ;p. Yes, it is possible, but I'll have to recalculate the likely minimum and
check
that it's still okay.
On 15 April 2015 at 13:32, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com
wrote:
> Hi Dario, > > One last question - would it be possible to break it out into
mobile vs
> desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects
in
> there > as well. Please let us know. > > Best, > > Hirav > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli > dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >> >> thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders
filtered
>> or >> mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver. >> >> Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward
with
>> this >> release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions. >> >> Dario >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes <
okeyes@wikimedia.org>
>> wrote: >>> >>> Dario, >>> >>> No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop;
mobile
>>> and desktop are grouped. >>> >>> On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> > e.g. German* >>> > >>> > I need more coffee. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi >>> > hirav.gandhi@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a >>> >> popular >>> >> site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English
Wikipedia
>>> >> would be >>> >> easier. >>> >> >>> >> If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia
sites, we
>>> >> would >>> >> need someway to tease out which language is being queried
when.
>>> >> Some >>> >> languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have
more
>>> >> daily >>> >> seasonality than languages like English. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli >>> >> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a >>> >>> specific >>> >>> reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset >>> >>> encompassing >>> >>> aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do
the
>>> >>> job. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dario >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli >>> >>> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine >>> >>>> releasing >>> >>>> this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be
valuable
>>> >>>> for >>> >>>> this >>> >>>> and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal). >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs:
aggregate
>>> >>>> pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot
traffic,
>>> >>>> broken >>> >>>> down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not
apps) for
>>> >>>> a >>> >>>> 60-day >>> >>>> period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify
the
>>> >>>> data >>> >>>> point >>> >>>> with the smallest number of observations? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Obviously, we will need to take into account this release
when we
>>> >>>> start >>> >>>> working on projects such as >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits
>>> >>>> and >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
>>> >>>> >>> >>>> Dario >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes >>> >>>> okeyes@wikimedia.org >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi <
hirav.gandhi@gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your
help!
>>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, >>> >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>>>> >> wrote: >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to >>> >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web,
visit
>>> >>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>>>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body
'help' to
>>> >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> >>>>> >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is
more
>>> >>>>> >> specific >>> >>>>> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> Today's Topics: >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Pine
>>> >>>>> >> W) >>> >>>>> >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Hirav
>>> >>>>> >> Gandhi) >>> >>>>> >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis >>> >>>>> >> (Oliver >>> >>>>> >> Keyes) >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> Message: 1 >>> >>>>> >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 >>> >>>>> >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com >>> >>>>> >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and >>> >>>>> >> everybody >>> >>>>> >> who >>> >>>>> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >>> >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent
than
>>> >>>>> >> hourly >>> >>>>> >> basis >>> >>>>> >> Message-ID: >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> <CAF=
dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the >>> >>>>> >> protocol >>> >>>>> >> we >>> >>>>> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and >>> >>>>> >> mentioned >>> >>>>> >> in >>> >>>>> >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically
move
>>> >>>>> >> emails >>> >>>>> >> from >>> >>>>> >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for
days.
>>> >>>>> >> So >>> >>>>> >> there is a >>> >>>>> >> reason to do this. >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> Thanks, >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> Pine >>> >>>>> >>
Hi guys,
Any update on this ask and where/when it would be available?
Hirav
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Bharath Sitaraman bharath@cs.stanford.edu wrote:
Interested in an Erlang book? :P Pretty sure I have one of those laying around here... Cheers, Bharath ᐧ On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I accept payment in books, pull requests and speaking invitations ;p.
(Updated check-the-minimum query running now!)
On 15 April 2015 at 13:35, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry Oliver. Let me know where I can send the beer/coffee money to compensate you for the hard work :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org
wrote:
/This/ you say 2.5 seconds after I've launched the query ;p. Yes, it is possible, but I'll have to recalculate the likely minimum and check that it's still okay.
On 15 April 2015 at 13:32, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dario,
One last question - would it be possible to break it out into mobile
vs
desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects in there as well. Please let us know.
Best,
Hirav
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote:
thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders
filtered
or mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver.
Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward with this release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions.
Dario
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Dario, > > No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop; mobile > and desktop are grouped. > > On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com > wrote: > > e.g. German* > > > > I need more coffee. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi > > hirav.gandhi@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> > >> Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a > >> popular > >> site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English Wikipedia > >> would be > >> easier. > >> > >> If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites, we > >> would > >> need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. > >> Some > >> languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have more > >> daily > >> seasonality than languages like English. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli > >> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: > >>> > >>> Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a > >>> specific > >>> reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset > >>> encompassing > >>> aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do the > >>> job. > >>> > >>> Dario > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli > >>> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine > >>>> releasing > >>>> this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be
valuable
> >>>> for > >>>> this > >>>> and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal). > >>>> > >>>> Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs: aggregate > >>>> pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot
traffic,
> >>>> broken > >>>> down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps)
for
> >>>> a > >>>> 60-day > >>>> period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify the > >>>> data > >>>> point > >>>> with the smallest number of observations? > >>>> > >>>> Obviously, we will need to take into account this release when
we
> >>>> start > >>>> working on projects such as > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits
> >>>> and > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
> >>>> > >>>> Dario > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes > >>>> okeyes@wikimedia.org > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) > >>>>> > >>>>> On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi <
hirav.gandhi@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your help! > >>>>> > > >>>>> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, > >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to > >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >>>>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help'
to
> >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>>>> >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > >>>>> >> specific > >>>>> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Today's Topics: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Pine
> >>>>> >> W) > >>>>> >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Hirav
> >>>>> >> Gandhi) > >>>>> >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis > >>>>> >> (Oliver > >>>>> >> Keyes) > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Message: 1 > >>>>> >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 > >>>>> >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com > >>>>> >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and > >>>>> >> everybody > >>>>> >> who > >>>>> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." > >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent than > >>>>> >> hourly > >>>>> >> basis > >>>>> >> Message-ID: > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> <CAF=
dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com>
> >>>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the > >>>>> >> protocol > >>>>> >> we > >>>>> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and > >>>>> >> mentioned > >>>>> >> in > >>>>> >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically move > >>>>> >> emails > >>>>> >> from > >>>>> >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for
days.
> >>>>> >> So > >>>>> >> there is a > >>>>> >> reason to do this. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Thanks, > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> Pine > >>>>> >>
Hey Hirav!
(Sorry, was arguing with the cluster)
Good news: even with the additional granularity (splitting out mobile and desktop varnishes) Dario and I are comfortable with releasing the data, based on the local minima we see.
Bad news: the cluster is currently fairly overwhelmed Result: I'm having to run the query day by day and sanitise the results. Bleh.
So: not fast. But running, and the data will be available :).
On 17 April 2015 at 19:01, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys,
Any update on this ask and where/when it would be available?
Hirav
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Bharath Sitaraman < bharath@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
Interested in an Erlang book? :P Pretty sure I have one of those laying around here...
Cheers, Bharath ᐧ
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I accept payment in books, pull requests and speaking invitations ;p.
(Updated check-the-minimum query running now!)
On 15 April 2015 at 13:35, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry Oliver. Let me know where I can send the beer/coffee money to compensate you for the hard work :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org
wrote:
/This/ you say 2.5 seconds after I've launched the query ;p. Yes, it is possible, but I'll have to recalculate the likely minimum and check that it's still okay.
On 15 April 2015 at 13:32, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Dario,
One last question - would it be possible to break it out into
mobile vs
desktop? We are also concerned there might be seasonality effects in there as well. Please let us know.
Best,
Hirav
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dario Taraborelli dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: > > thanks, both. Let's go ahead with English only and no spiders
filtered
> or > mobile/desktop breakdown, per Oliver. > > Michelle – given the aggregation level I am fine moving forward
with
> this > release, but let me know off-thread if you have any questions. > > Dario > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Oliver Keyes <
okeyes@wikimedia.org>
> wrote: >> >> Dario, >> >> No spider filtering, and no split between mobile and desktop;
mobile
>> and desktop are grouped. >> >> On 15 April 2015 at 12:46, Hirav Gandhi hirav.gandhi@gmail.com >> wrote: >> > e.g. German* >> > >> > I need more coffee. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Hirav Gandhi >> > hirav.gandhi@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Dario - we just want a representative samples of traffic for a >> >> popular >> >> site like Wikipedia. We thought limiting to the English
Wikipedia
>> >> would be >> >> easier. >> >> >> >> If we get aggregated data across all language Wikipedia sites,
we
>> >> would >> >> need someway to tease out which language is being queried when. >> >> Some >> >> languages (for e.g. German) we would hypothesize would have
more
>> >> daily >> >> seasonality than languages like English. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dario Taraborelli >> >> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hirav, Bharath – I also want to hear from you if there's a >> >>> specific >> >>> reason to ask for English Wikipedia only or if a dataset >> >>> encompassing >> >>> aggregate pageviews across all Wikimedia properties would do
the
>> >>> job. >> >>> >> >>> Dario >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Dario Taraborelli >> >>> dtaraborelli@wikimedia.org wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Oliver -- thanks for running a preliminary check, I'm fine >> >>>> releasing >> >>>> this data in aggregate under CC0, I believe it would be
valuable
>> >>>> for >> >>>> this >> >>>> and other research projects (copying Michelle from Legal). >> >>>> >> >>>> Before we do so, though, I want to confirm the specs:
aggregate
>> >>>> pageviews per second to English Wikipedia, excluding bot
traffic,
>> >>>> broken >> >>>> down by access method (mobile web vs desktop site, not apps)
for
>> >>>> a >> >>>> 60-day >> >>>> period. Oliver – are these the filters you used to identify
the
>> >>>> data >> >>>> point >> >>>> with the smallest number of observations? >> >>>> >> >>>> Obviously, we will need to take into account this release
when we
>> >>>> start >> >>>> working on projects such as >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_edits
>> >>>> and >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Geo-aggregation_of_Wikipedia_pagevi...
>> >>>> >> >>>> Dario >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Oliver Keyes >> >>>> okeyes@wikimedia.org >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Bumping for Dario, per Pine's excellent example :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 13 April 2015 at 22:18, Hirav Gandhi <
hirav.gandhi@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> > Oliver: Two months is fine. Thank you so much for your
help!
>> >>>>> > >> >>>>> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:40 PM, >> >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Send Analytics mailing list submissions to >> >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >>>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >>>>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body
'help' to
>> >>>>> >> analytics-request@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >>>>> >> analytics-owner@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is
more
>> >>>>> >> specific >> >>>>> >> than "Re: Contents of Analytics digest..." >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Today's Topics: >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> 1. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Pine
>> >>>>> >> W) >> >>>>> >> 2. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis
(Hirav
>> >>>>> >> Gandhi) >> >>>>> >> 3. Re: Page views on a more frequent than hourly basis >> >>>>> >> (Oliver >> >>>>> >> Keyes) >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Message: 1 >> >>>>> >> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:34:23 -0700 >> >>>>> >> From: Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com >> >>>>> >> To: "A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and >> >>>>> >> everybody >> >>>>> >> who >> >>>>> >> has an interest in Wikipedia and analytics." >> >>>>> >> analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Analytics] Page views on a more frequent
than
>> >>>>> >> hourly >> >>>>> >> basis >> >>>>> >> Message-ID: >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> <CAF=
dyJjZMdfTHZ+0+LwnHb9m8xUOd4WetGCFUXYB9Qyf7CyC5Q@mail.gmail.com>
>> >>>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Hi Oliver, re ccing people who are on list, this is the >> >>>>> >> protocol >> >>>>> >> we >> >>>>> >> followed in IEGCom to ping people who are subscribed and >> >>>>> >> mentioned >> >>>>> >> in >> >>>>> >> certain emails but, like many of us, may automatically
move
>> >>>>> >> emails >> >>>>> >> from >> >>>>> >> lists directly to folders where they may be unread for
days.
>> >>>>> >> So >> >>>>> >> there is a >> >>>>> >> reason to do this. >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Thanks, >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> Pine >> >>>>> >>