Dirk,

Browser stats here: https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/# all-sites-by-os do not detail all linux distros as we do not report on anything below 0.05% of our request ratio. As such, Linux Mint is no longer reported distinctively.

The point you made about Linux Mint not being identified correctly still stands though, we use ua parser (java) to parse our user agents. There might be a fix you could upstream if Mint is at all discoverable on URL? See: https://github.com/ua-parser/uap-core/blob/master/regexes.yaml#L889

If, however, the UA is truly no different in Mint than Ubuntu for FF (prior to version 10 of Mint) I do not think it should be on Wikimedia to report that oddity. It is one of many on the browser world and when you look at browser data you have to bear in mind that it can only be as good as user agents are.

Given the major shift to mobile from our traffic it is likely that Mint market share has lowered. Out of curiosity I took a look and we have 226600 pageviews (not requests) identified in the month of September, versus 438848 (again, pageviews, not requests) last August.

Overall that is <0.0001% of our traffic which means that Mint will not be displayed in overall stats any time soon, even if we change our reports to add a bit more granularity.

Thanks,

Nuria

PS. A pageview is defined (more or less) as a request for main document that returns a 200, the numbers I reported do not take into account static resources requests.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 3:08 AM, Erik Zachte ezachte@wikimedia.org wrote:

Dear mr Haar,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

The report you refer to has been discontinued since August 2015. (see page notice)

https://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems. htm

The successor based on new definitions, and methodology is at

https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#all-sites-by-os

I forward you message to the WMF Analytics Team who maintain these stats.

Best regards,

Erik Zachte

*From:* Haar, Dirk [mailto:Dirk.Haar@partner.commerzbank.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:22 *To:* 'ezachte@wikimedia.org' *Subject:* https://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/ SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm

Hi Erik!

Would you mind to make a change on the OS report page?

I always wondered about values for Linux Mint in comparision to Ubuntu there, and now found the reason in

Clem's blog entry here http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2016/09/addressing-fud/ (see "Wikimedia stats").

What you show as Linux Mint are only those version up to Mint 10.

Current version is 18, and since versio 11, the user agent you (or better let's say "Wikimedia stats") evaluate

is shown as "Ubuntu". There should at least be a note at this line, other distros may be concerned, too.

(Btw., that remembers older browser usage statistics, when websites couldn't deal with Netscape Communicator

so that you'd had to switch the user agent to "Internet Explorer", shifting the usage values complety.)

Best regards,

Dirk Haar

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