Hi Analytics team,
Quick question: Does the Clickstream data https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/clickstream/readme.html lump together *mobile and desktop?* It seems to be hinted at here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_clickstream, but it's not mentioned explicitly. It just says that the 2015 data is for desktop only, which seems to imply that after that it's desktop + mobile.
Also, I was wondering if anyone has any insights into what might cause *referrers to be empty?* I tried googling, but the issue is clouded in mystery and seems to depend a lot on browser and website specificities. Any insights (small or big) would be appreciated!
Thanks a lot! Bob
Hi Robert
From the `WHERE` clause here:
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... you can see that we bundloe altogether desktop, mobile-web and mobile-app rows.
As for the reason of so many empty referrers, I don't know myself, but I know it's been a topic already discussed. IIRC Nuria and Jon Katz looked into it a bit, and more recently Isaac Johnson (all in direct copy).
Cheers Joseph
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:03 AM Robert West west@cs.stanford.edu wrote:
Hi Analytics team,
Quick question: Does the Clickstream data https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/clickstream/readme.html lump together *mobile and desktop?* It seems to be hinted at here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_clickstream, but it's not mentioned explicitly. It just says that the 2015 data is for desktop only, which seems to imply that after that it's desktop + mobile.
Also, I was wondering if anyone has any insights into what might cause *referrers to be empty?* I tried googling, but the issue is clouded in mystery and seems to depend a lot on browser and website specificities. Any insights (small or big) would be appreciated!
Thanks a lot! Bob _______________________________________________ Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Hello,
See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195880 for info on "none" referrers.
Thanks,
Nuria
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 6:10 AM Joseph Allemandou jallemandou@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Robert
From the `WHERE` clause here:
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... you can see that we bundloe altogether desktop, mobile-web and mobile-app rows.
As for the reason of so many empty referrers, I don't know myself, but I know it's been a topic already discussed. IIRC Nuria and Jon Katz looked into it a bit, and more recently Isaac Johnson (all in direct copy).
Cheers Joseph
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:03 AM Robert West west@cs.stanford.edu wrote:
Hi Analytics team,
Quick question: Does the Clickstream data https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/clickstream/readme.html lump together *mobile and desktop?* It seems to be hinted at here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_clickstream, but it's not mentioned explicitly. It just says that the 2015 data is for desktop only, which seems to imply that after that it's desktop + mobile.
Also, I was wondering if anyone has any insights into what might cause *referrers to be empty?* I tried googling, but the issue is clouded in mystery and seems to depend a lot on browser and website specificities. Any insights (small or big) would be appreciated!
Thanks a lot! Bob _______________________________________________ Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
-- Joseph Allemandou (joal) (he / him) Sr Data Engineer Wikimedia Foundation
Thanks a lot for the info, Joseph and Nuria.
These "none" referrers are problematic for all the analytics teams out there, it seems. When searching about around the issue of "none" referrers, I found that it even drove Groupon to conduct an iffy experiment: they "deindexed" themselves from Google for about 6 hours, finding that "Up To 60% Of “Direct” [i.e., referrer '-'] Traffic Is Actually Organic Search"... https://searchengineland.com/60-direct-traffic-actually-seo-195415
Bob
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:29 PM Nuria Ruiz nruiz@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello,
See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195880 for info on "none" referrers.
Thanks,
Nuria
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 6:10 AM Joseph Allemandou < jallemandou@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi Robert
From the `WHERE` clause here:
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... you can see that we bundloe altogether desktop, mobile-web and mobile-app rows.
As for the reason of so many empty referrers, I don't know myself, but I know it's been a topic already discussed. IIRC Nuria and Jon Katz looked into it a bit, and more recently Isaac Johnson (all in direct copy).
Cheers Joseph
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:03 AM Robert West west@cs.stanford.edu wrote:
Hi Analytics team,
Quick question: Does the Clickstream data https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/clickstream/readme.html lump together *mobile and desktop?* It seems to be hinted at here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikipedia_clickstream, but it's not mentioned explicitly. It just says that the 2015 data is for desktop only, which seems to imply that after that it's desktop + mobile.
Also, I was wondering if anyone has any insights into what might cause *referrers to be empty?* I tried googling, but the issue is clouded in mystery and seems to depend a lot on browser and website specificities. Any insights (small or big) would be appreciated!
Thanks a lot! Bob _______________________________________________ Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
-- Joseph Allemandou (joal) (he / him) Sr Data Engineer Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
I found that it even drove Groupon to conduct an iffy experiment: they "deindexed" themselves from Google for about 6 hours, finding that "Up To 60% Of “Direct” [i.e., referrer '-'] Traffic Is Actually Organic Search"... https://searchengineland.com/60-direct-traffic-actually-seo-195415
super interesting, thanks Bob! Added to docs: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Research%3AWikipedia_clickstrea...