Hey Dan G and Analytics team,
I wanted to continue and finish the discussion that happened during the Analytics showcase earlier today.
We're implementing a new feature in Wikimetrics where you can upload a cohort and check a box so that every user's accounts on other wikis (projects) will be added to the cohort (using CentralAuth). The purpose is to see if editors are active on other projects.
The research scientists pointed out that there are issues with CentralAuth and they are showing up in EventLogging ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66101 ).
Let me try to sum up the issue here: Suppose someone has an unattached account. She then went to an editathon and volunteered her name to be included in a cohort. The resulting cohort when expanded with CentralAuth would include users from other wikis.
Dan pointed out that this would be extremely unlikely that a cohort expanded using CentralAuth would include unattached users.
I'm inclined to not worry about the issue and move ahead with releasing the feature.
Please discuss I'm missing something.
Hi everyone,
I think the probability of someone having an unattached account at an editathon is negligible. Most users that go to an editathon register a new account, and most do not create unattached accounts in the process. I think you're safe to proceed.
Besides, the SUL finalisation is on the horizon (no date yet, but we're making good progress, so the date for the finalisation should be on the order of months away), and once that's done, it will be by definition impossible for someone to have an unattached account. So your solution is future-proofed. :-)
Hope that helps.
Dan
On 20 August 2014 16:51, Kevin Leduc kevin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey Dan G and Analytics team,
I wanted to continue and finish the discussion that happened during the Analytics showcase earlier today.
We're implementing a new feature in Wikimetrics where you can upload a cohort and check a box so that every user's accounts on other wikis (projects) will be added to the cohort (using CentralAuth). The purpose is to see if editors are active on other projects.
The research scientists pointed out that there are issues with CentralAuth and they are showing up in EventLogging ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66101 ).
Let me try to sum up the issue here: Suppose someone has an unattached account. She then went to an editathon and volunteered her name to be included in a cohort. The resulting cohort when expanded with CentralAuth would include users from other wikis.
Dan pointed out that this would be extremely unlikely that a cohort expanded using CentralAuth would include unattached users.
I'm inclined to not worry about the issue and move ahead with releasing the feature.
Please discuss I'm missing something.
You do get the odd person showing up who registered a long time ago and has done very little since - and thus might be likely to have an unattached account - but a) not many and b) this is still only an issue if you have an active account of the same name elsewhere - so you're looking at a small proportion of a small proportion. I'd agree this doesn't seem like something to worry much about.
Andrew. On 21 Aug 2014 02:09, "Dan Garry" dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
I think the probability of someone having an unattached account at an editathon is negligible. Most users that go to an editathon register a new account, and most do not create unattached accounts in the process. I think you're safe to proceed.
Besides, the SUL finalisation is on the horizon (no date yet, but we're making good progress, so the date for the finalisation should be on the order of months away), and once that's done, it will be by definition impossible for someone to have an unattached account. So your solution is future-proofed. :-)
Hope that helps.
Dan
On 20 August 2014 16:51, Kevin Leduc kevin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey Dan G and Analytics team,
I wanted to continue and finish the discussion that happened during the Analytics showcase earlier today.
We're implementing a new feature in Wikimetrics where you can upload a cohort and check a box so that every user's accounts on other wikis (projects) will be added to the cohort (using CentralAuth). The purpose is to see if editors are active on other projects.
The research scientists pointed out that there are issues with CentralAuth and they are showing up in EventLogging ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66101 ).
Let me try to sum up the issue here: Suppose someone has an unattached account. She then went to an editathon and volunteered her name to be included in a cohort. The resulting cohort when expanded with CentralAuth would include users from other wikis.
Dan pointed out that this would be extremely unlikely that a cohort expanded using CentralAuth would include unattached users.
I'm inclined to not worry about the issue and move ahead with releasing the feature.
Please discuss I'm missing something.
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