Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
If Adblock is blocking EventLogging requests, this could have a serious effect on the accuracy of EventLogging data. Adblock has 10M+ users. It would be good to troubleshoot this and find out exactly what Adblock settings trigger this and escalate the issue if needed.
Kaldari
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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Well -- only the client side. But the number of users is low -- according to a recent study, Adblock has something like 144mm users worldwide[1]
I'm not sure how serious this is, considering a lot of EL traffic is sampled. But we definitely need to understand it better. Who do you think could help? Analytics can handle the back-end testing, but it would be nice to find someone with a good knowledge of browsers -- maybe QA?
-Toby
[1] http://www.mondaynote.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/347_adblock_1c.png
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.org wrote:
If Adblock is blocking EventLogging requests, this could have a serious effect on the accuracy of EventLogging data. Adblock has 10M+ users. It would be good to troubleshoot this and find out exactly what Adblock settings trigger this and escalate the issue if needed.
Kaldari
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
1. {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana (WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
- {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana
(WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
- {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana
(WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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Mac OS X Chrome 39.0.2171.71 (64-bit) Adblock Plus 1.8.8
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:57, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
- {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana
(WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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The version of AdBlock itself is not significant; what is significant is the filter subscription, which is a set of URL patterns and element selectors that AdBlock will block. The most popular one (and the one that is installed by default) is EasyList, and I do not see EventLogging in its list:
https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt
Other filter subscriptions are listed here: https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/
I checked the popular English-language ones and did not see EventLogging filtering. bits.wikimedia.org/geoiplookup and meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecordImpression are filtered, but the fundraising team should be aware of that already.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Mac OS X Chrome 39.0.2171.71 (64-bit) Adblock Plus 1.8.8
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:57, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
- {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana
(WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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Ori, I have "/event/gif?" filter rule enabled under EasyPrivacy: https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Ori Livneh ori@wikimedia.org wrote:
The version of AdBlock itself is not significant; what is significant is the filter subscription, which is a set of URL patterns and element selectors that AdBlock will block. The most popular one (and the one that is installed by default) is EasyList, and I do not see EventLogging in its list:
https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt
Other filter subscriptions are listed here: https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/
I checked the popular English-language ones and did not see EventLogging filtering. bits.wikimedia.org/geoiplookup and meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecordImpression are filtered, but the fundraising team should be aware of that already.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Mac OS X Chrome 39.0.2171.71 (64-bit) Adblock Plus 1.8.8
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:57, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
- {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana
(WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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Good catch. Yes, that will block EventLogging requests.
I don't think there's much to do about it. We could play cat-and-mouse by changing the URL of the logging endpoint, but I don't think that that would be ethical. I don't even think it's a bad thing for this rule to exist, to be honest.
The % of users this affects is probably miniscule, since EasyPrivacy is not a default subscription, AFAIK.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ori, I have "/event/gif?" filter rule enabled under EasyPrivacy: https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Ori Livneh ori@wikimedia.org wrote:
The version of AdBlock itself is not significant; what is significant is the filter subscription, which is a set of URL patterns and element selectors that AdBlock will block. The most popular one (and the one that is installed by default) is EasyList, and I do not see EventLogging in its list:
https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt
Other filter subscriptions are listed here: https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/
I checked the popular English-language ones and did not see EventLogging filtering. bits.wikimedia.org/geoiplookup and meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecordImpression are filtered, but the fundraising team should be aware of that already.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Mac OS X Chrome 39.0.2171.71 (64-bit) Adblock Plus 1.8.8
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:57, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
- {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana
(WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
> Hi everyone, > > From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not > logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu > 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see > event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, > I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there. > > I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm > (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow. > > Leila > > > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >
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On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Ori Livneh ori@wikimedia.org wrote:
Good catch. Yes, that will block EventLogging requests.
I don't think there's much to do about it. We could play cat-and-mouse by changing the URL of the logging endpoint, but I don't think that that would be ethical. I don't even think it's a bad thing for this rule to exist, to be honest.
+1
The % of users this affects is probably miniscule, since EasyPrivacy is not a default subscription, AFAIK.
I don't have an idea about this one. Will keep an eye on it.
Leila
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ori, I have "/event/gif?" filter rule enabled under EasyPrivacy: https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Ori Livneh ori@wikimedia.org wrote:
The version of AdBlock itself is not significant; what is significant is the filter subscription, which is a set of URL patterns and element selectors that AdBlock will block. The most popular one (and the one that is installed by default) is EasyList, and I do not see EventLogging in its list:
https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt
Other filter subscriptions are listed here: https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/
I checked the popular English-language ones and did not see EventLogging filtering. bits.wikimedia.org/geoiplookup and meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecordImpression are filtered, but the fundraising team should be aware of that already.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Mac OS X Chrome 39.0.2171.71 (64-bit) Adblock Plus 1.8.8
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:57, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote: > > FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my > browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I > know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the > console, transmitting the following JSON: > > > 1. {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana > (WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" > en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};: > > > As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings. > > If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, > I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1]. > > Thanks, > Dan > > [1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it > stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-) > > On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is >> not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on >> Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, >> I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make >> sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there. >> >> I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm >> (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow. >> >> Leila >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> > > -- > Dan Garry > Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps > Wikimedia Foundation >
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I don't think there's much to do about it. We could play cat-and-mouse by
changing the URL of the logging endpoint, but I don't think that that
would be ethical. I don't even think it's a bad thing for this rule to
exist, to be honest. Second this.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Ori Livneh ori@wikimedia.org wrote:
Good catch. Yes, that will block EventLogging requests.
I don't think there's much to do about it. We could play cat-and-mouse by changing the URL of the logging endpoint, but I don't think that that would be ethical. I don't even think it's a bad thing for this rule to exist, to be honest.
+1
The % of users this affects is probably miniscule, since EasyPrivacy is not a default subscription, AFAIK.
I don't have an idea about this one. Will keep an eye on it.
Leila
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ori, I have "/event/gif?" filter rule enabled under EasyPrivacy: https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Ori Livneh ori@wikimedia.org wrote:
The version of AdBlock itself is not significant; what is significant is the filter subscription, which is a set of URL patterns and element selectors that AdBlock will block. The most popular one (and the one that is installed by default) is EasyList, and I do not see EventLogging in its list:
https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt
Other filter subscriptions are listed here: https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/
I checked the popular English-language ones and did not see EventLogging filtering. bits.wikimedia.org/geoiplookup and meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecordImpression are filtered, but the fundraising team should be aware of that already.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Mac OS X Chrome 39.0.2171.71 (64-bit) Adblock Plus 1.8.8
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:57, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote: > > And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged > successfully. > > Dan > > On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org > wrote: >> >> FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my >> browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I >> know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the >> console, transmitting the following JSON: >> >> >> 1. {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana >> (WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" >> en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};: >> >> >> As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings. >> >> If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a >> control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain >> [1]. >> >> Thanks, >> Dan >> >> [1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it >> stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-) >> >> On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org >> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is >>> not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on >>> Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, >>> I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make >>> sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there. >>> >>> I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm >>> (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow. >>> >>> Leila >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Dan Garry >> Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps >> Wikimedia Foundation >> > > > -- > Dan Garry > Associate Product Manager, Mobile Apps > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > > _______________________________________________ Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
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On my machine, Linux/Chrome works fine with Adblock 2.14.4 and Chrome 35.0.1914.114
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
- {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana
(WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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Leila, can you give us more details about your Adblock settings and what filter subscription(s) you have set up?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
On my machine, Linux/Chrome works fine with Adblock 2.14.4 and Chrome 35.0.1914.114
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
- {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana
(WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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just to be clear, I'm talking about Adblock Plus.
This is the first thing I see if I go to settings: http://imgur.com/0SFlrQh,NCI21P6#1
If I click Filter preferences, I see http://imgur.com/0SFlrQh,NCI21P6#0
When I click on View list in the bottom of the previous window, I see this list: https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/exceptionrules.txt
If you want to have a look at the filters by category in the second image, let's go over them in Hangout and update the list.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.org wrote:
Leila, can you give us more details about your Adblock settings and what filter subscription(s) you have set up?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
On my machine, Linux/Chrome works fine with Adblock 2.14.4 and Chrome 35.0.1914.114
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Toby Negrin tnegrin@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dan -- what platform?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
And, from looking at the tables, I can confirm my action was logged successfully.
Dan
On 11 December 2014 at 14:50, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
FWIW, I tested this quickly by going to en.m.wikipedia.org on my browser (which has Adblock Plus 1.8.8) and clicking the left nav, which I know has EventLogging attached to it on mobile web. I saw event.gif in the console, transmitting the following JSON:
- {"event":{"name":"hamburger-settings","destination":"/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions&returnto=Main+Page","mobileMode":"stable","username":"Deskana
(WMF)","userEditCount":223},"clientValidated":true,"revision":5929948,"schema":"MobileWebClickTracking","webHost":" en.m.wikipedia.org","wiki":"enwiki"};:
As far as I know, I use default Adblock settings.
If you want to do some troubleshooting with my browser as a control, I am in the office chilling on the hammock, in spite of the rain [1].
Thanks, Dan
[1]: Yes, that's what it is. Rain. You Californians might call it stormageddon or whatever, but the rest of the world calls it rain. ;-)
On 11 December 2014 at 14:15, Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
From some initial tests it appears to me that EventLogging is not logging events from Linux/Firefox when Adblock is enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04, Firefox 34.0, and Adblock Plus 2.6.6. When I disable Adblock, I see event.gif?{...} in Console, when I enable it, I don't. Just to make sure, I've checked the EL tables and my events don't get registered there.
I'd be happy to sit with someone to troubleshoot before 4pm (PST), after 5:30pm (PST) or tomorrow.
Leila
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Is everyone talking of the same extension here? Adblock Plus is not the same as AdBlock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdBlock (Adblock was yet another.)
Nemo
good catch, didn't know there is a venue of them.
My test was with Adblock Plus on Linux/Firefox. I installed Adblock Plus on Chrome just now and tested. Linux/Chrome logs events without a problem.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
Is everyone talking of the same extension here? Adblock Plus is not the same as AdBlock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdBlock (Adblock was yet another.)
Nemo
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