Hi,
One thing I keep wondering about is how good the VisualEditor is at acquiring and preserving new editors.
A few months ago I wrote a project proposal here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Ideas/How_does_the_availability_of_...
See also its talk page for a bit of work on the subject by a Hebrew Wikipedia editor: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Ideas/How_does_the_availabilit...
I didn't see much more follow-up on my proposal. Is anybody else working on anything like that?
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
Hey Amir,
Just speaking for myself, I'm currently knee-deep in readership and haven't been working on editor-related stuff for a while - not sure if Aaron, Leila or Dario have seen this proposal.
On 15 December 2014 at 06:27, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
One thing I keep wondering about is how good the VisualEditor is at acquiring and preserving new editors.
A few months ago I wrote a project proposal here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Ideas/How_does_the_availability_of_...
See also its talk page for a bit of work on the subject by a Hebrew Wikipedia editor:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Ideas/How_does_the_availabilit...
I didn't see much more follow-up on my proposal. Is anybody else working on anything like that?
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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Hi Amir --
Because VE is not widely rolled out and is controversial, we haven't spent a lot of time studying it after the initial rollout in 2013. AFAIK, that team is working on performance and functionality issues and I haven't heard anything about additional rollouts. Until we have a plan for this, I don't think we're going to spend a lot of time on VE studies.
I'd reach out to James F & co to get more information on their current focus on performance; certainly we'll continue to work with that team when the roadmap is clear.
-Toby
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
Hi,
One thing I keep wondering about is how good the VisualEditor is at acquiring and preserving new editors.
A few months ago I wrote a project proposal here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Ideas/How_does_the_availability_of_...
See also its talk page for a bit of work on the subject by a Hebrew Wikipedia editor:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Ideas/How_does_the_availabilit...
I didn't see much more follow-up on my proposal. Is anybody else working on anything like that?
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
A few months ago I wrote a project proposal here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Ideas/How_does_the_availability_of_...
I noticed that the text of the proposal does not provide adequate explanation of "editor acquisition". While the phrase itself can simply mean 'how many new editors in total have been added to the community of editors and are continuing to use VE', a suitable scoping would nice to have.
What I want to know is this: If a new editor uses VE rather than the source editor, does she or he have a better chance to stick around as an editor.
If the method at [1] is correct, it hints that the usage of VE by new editors indeed improves their chance to stick around, but I'd love to hear the data scientists' opinion about this.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Ideas/How_does_the_availabilit...
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2014-12-15 15:55 GMT+02:00 sankarshan foss.mailinglists@gmail.com:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
A few months ago I wrote a project proposal here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Ideas/How_does_the_availability_of_...
I noticed that the text of the proposal does not provide adequate explanation of "editor acquisition". While the phrase itself can simply mean 'how many new editors in total have been added to the community of editors and are continuing to use VE', a suitable scoping would nice to have.
-- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
What I want to know is this: If a new editor uses VE rather than the source editor, does she or he have a better chance to stick around as an editor.
Would rephrasing the above as 'do new editors using VE have a longer span of continued contributions compared to new editors without VE' be an accurate form of the question?
Last year's research[1] and associated discussion[2] shows that VE did not have an impact on new user retention. However the VE team has made a lot of progress on performance and functionality since then and the testing should be rerun when the team is ready.
-Toby
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:VisualEditor%27s_effect_on_newly_reg... [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:VisualEditor%27s_effect_on_newly_reg...
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 6:27 AM, sankarshan foss.mailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
What I want to know is this: If a new editor uses VE rather than the
source
editor, does she or he have a better chance to stick around as an editor.
Would rephrasing the above as 'do new editors using VE have a longer span of continued contributions compared to new editors without VE' be an accurate form of the question?
-- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan
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What I want to know is this: If a new editor uses VE rather than the
source
editor, does she or he have a better chance to stick around as an
editor.
Would rephrasing the above as 'do new editors using VE have a longer span of continued contributions compared to new editors without VE' be an accurate form of the question?
Yes, if it makes it clearer :)