Hi Analytics,
Is there an easy way to rank our projects, with languages being consolidated, by (1) size in GB, or (2) number of content pages, or (3) number of active users in the previous month? I imagine that the ordered list would look something like this: Commons, all Wikipedias, all Wiktionaries, all Wikisources, Wikispecies, Wikidata, etc.
If there's an easy way to get an ordered list I'd like to include that info in an introductory portion of my LearnWiki video tutorials, but if this question would consume more than a few moments of staff time to research then I can skip it. I'm thinking that the sizes of the databases would be an easy way to measure sizes in GB, but I don't know with certainty if the databases are consolidated or if each language has its own database.
Thanks!
Pine
http://wikistats.wmflabs.org/ has this on the main page.
https://www.wikimedia.org/ is the easy way to remember the rank by "size", which as always is determined by how used they are.
Nemo
Thanks Nemo. It looks like I can get most of what I had in mind from Wikistats.
I'm confused about https://www.wikimedia.org/ though. If that list is sorted by pageviews, I would expect Commons to outrank Wikinews by a large margin. Are the viewership stats shown by project somewhere? I checked https://reportcard.wmflabs.org but that mostly focuses on Wikipedia.
Pine
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
http://wikistats.wmflabs.org/ has this on the main page.
https://www.wikimedia.org/ is the easy way to remember the rank by "size", which as always is determined by how used they are.
Nemo
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Commons got approx. 108M pageviews last month - https://stats.wikimedia.org/wikispecial/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyOriginal.ht...
This is slightly below Wiktionary, and about three times (all) Wikibooks, or five times Wikiquote or Wikisource - https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyAllProjects.htm
My understanding is that this will only count people who visit a Commons file description page (or other page), but will not count any of the following other ways to access a file:
* viewing a Commons file embedded in another wiki * viewing a "local description" of the file on a page on which it's embedded * viewing a "local mirror" of a file description page on another wiki * loading a file directly from upload.wikimedia.org without going through the Commons description page
(someone, please correct me if I'm wrong!)
So:
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lozupone_katz2.png - counts, but
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katz%27s_Delicatessen - does not count * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katz%27s_Delicatessen#/media/File:Lozupone_kat... - does not count * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lozupone_katz2.png - does not count * https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Lozupone_katz2.png... - does not count
This is consistent with the way the pagecounts work everywhere else, but will mean that the Commons pageview data doesn't fully reflect all the ways it's used.
A.
On 12 July 2016 at 08:07, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Nemo. It looks like I can get most of what I had in mind from Wikistats.
I'm confused about https://www.wikimedia.org/ though. If that list is sorted by pageviews, I would expect Commons to outrank Wikinews by a large margin. Are the viewership stats shown by project somewhere? I checked https://reportcard.wmflabs.org but that mostly focuses on Wikipedia.
Pine
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
http://wikistats.wmflabs.org/ has this on the main page.
https://www.wikimedia.org/ is the easy way to remember the rank by "size", which as always is determined by how used they are.
Nemo
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On 12 July 2016 at 08:50, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
So:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lozupone_katz2.png - counts, but
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katz%27s_Delicatessen - does not count
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katz%27s_Delicatessen#/media/File:Lozupone_kat...
- does not count
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lozupone_katz2.png - does not count
- https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Lozupone_katz2.png...
- does not count
After thinking about this a bit, I sanity-checked the numbers -
https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=commons.wikimedia.org&platf...
https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=a...
The English Wikipedia "pseudo-file-description" page gets 28 views to 12 on Commons over a 20-day period. Pulling up some random other images from article leads...
File:Michael_Collins_1922.jpg - 55 en, 28 commons File:Empire_State_Building_by_David_Shankbone_crop.jpg - 541 en, 77 commons File:Hylobates_lar_pair_of_white_and_black_01.jpg - 71 en, 21 commons
This is quite interesting - it looks like systematically more people look at the local Wikipedia's mirror of a file description page than view it on Commons. It's not particularly surprising, when you consider the workflow involved, but I don't think I've seen it discussed before...
See also https://tools.wmflabs.org/siteviews which lets you compare total pageviews or counts of unique devices to WMF projects. Not sure if this is helpful, but thought I'd share :)
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:24 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
On 12 July 2016 at 08:50, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
So:
but
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katz%27s_Delicatessen - does not count
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katz%27s_Delicatessen#/media/File:Lozupone_kat...
- does not count
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lozupone_katz2.png - does not count
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Lozupone_katz2.png...
- does not count
After thinking about this a bit, I sanity-checked the numbers -
https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=commons.wikimedia.org&platf...
https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=a...
The English Wikipedia "pseudo-file-description" page gets 28 views to 12 on Commons over a 20-day period. Pulling up some random other images from article leads...
File:Michael_Collins_1922.jpg - 55 en, 28 commons File:Empire_State_Building_by_David_Shankbone_crop.jpg - 541 en, 77 commons File:Hylobates_lar_pair_of_white_and_black_01.jpg - 71 en, 21 commons
This is quite interesting - it looks like systematically more people look at the local Wikipedia's mirror of a file description page than view it on Commons. It's not particularly surprising, when you consider the workflow involved, but I don't think I've seen it discussed before...
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