Hi Analytics,
Will the new platform be located on stats.wikimedia.org as well?
Do you know what the sitemap for the replacements of Wikistats will be? I would like to be able to refer people to the Wikistats successor from the LearnWiki videos, rather than refer them to links that may be dead by the time that viewers two years from now see the videos.
Thanks!
Pine
Hi Pine,
We haven't decided on all of this yet, we haven't even started the design process. Mostly we're working on the data at the moment. Because the data pipeline is the least maintainable thing about metrics at WMF.
Our early thoughts were that the new UI would be so different from the old one that it deserves a new site. So we were guessing that leaving stats.wikimedia.org intact and putting banners on it about the new analytics.wikimedia.org domain would be the way to go. Then we can transition the experience slowly and give people a chance to compare with the old site and tell us where the gaps are, if any. Ideally while we're doing this, the old site would still be updating, but there are a number of problems that could get in the way of that.
As always, let us know your thoughts. Basically, my approach is that the new wikistats should make it easier to find the data available. There is a lot of exciting work referenced from wikistats, but I think we can separate that a little bit cleaner from the main work.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Analytics,
Will the new platform be located on stats.wikimedia.org as well?
Do you know what the sitemap for the replacements of Wikistats will be? I would like to be able to refer people to the Wikistats successor from the LearnWiki videos, rather than refer them to links that may be dead by the time that viewers two years from now see the videos.
Thanks!
Pine
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Hi Dan,
Thanks for the update. The plan as you've outlined it makes sense. After further consideration, I realized that I can reference the links to the statistics site (whichever one it is at any given time) by including them in a separate, wikified list of "Additional Materials" rather than burning the links into the main video. However, it is helpful to know of the new domain; is that set in stone as analytics.wikimedia.org?
The video can be changed after initial rendering, but that's more time-consuming than having the correct link in the video in the first place *and/or* having an easily editable link in wiki format.
I'm also wondering if I could make a shortlink of some kind that I could burn into the video, and then redirect the shortlink at the appropriate time in the future. I'll look into this further; that's my issue and not an Analytics issue.
Thanks!
Pine
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Dan Andreescu dandreescu@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Pine,
We haven't decided on all of this yet, we haven't even started the design process. Mostly we're working on the data at the moment. Because the data pipeline is the least maintainable thing about metrics at WMF.
Our early thoughts were that the new UI would be so different from the old one that it deserves a new site. So we were guessing that leaving stats.wikimedia.org intact and putting banners on it about the new analytics.wikimedia.org domain would be the way to go. Then we can transition the experience slowly and give people a chance to compare with the old site and tell us where the gaps are, if any. Ideally while we're doing this, the old site would still be updating, but there are a number of problems that could get in the way of that.
As always, let us know your thoughts. Basically, my approach is that the new wikistats should make it easier to find the data available. There is a lot of exciting work referenced from wikistats, but I think we can separate that a little bit cleaner from the main work.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Analytics,
Will the new platform be located on stats.wikimedia.org as well?
Do you know what the sitemap for the replacements of Wikistats will be? I would like to be able to refer people to the Wikistats successor from the LearnWiki videos, rather than refer them to links that may be dead by the time that viewers two years from now see the videos.
Thanks!
Pine
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Pine:
However, it is helpful to know of the new domain; is that set in stone as
analytics.wikimedia.org? Not yet. The project is still in the early phases thus we have no final links nor do we know how would those look. It is likely they will be hosted on that domain, but not final.
We shall update this list with more info when we have it.
Thanks,
Nuria
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dan,
Thanks for the update. The plan as you've outlined it makes sense. After further consideration, I realized that I can reference the links to the statistics site (whichever one it is at any given time) by including them in a separate, wikified list of "Additional Materials" rather than burning the links into the main video. However, it is helpful to know of the new domain; is that set in stone as analytics.wikimedia.org?
The video can be changed after initial rendering, but that's more time-consuming than having the correct link in the video in the first place *and/or* having an easily editable link in wiki format.
I'm also wondering if I could make a shortlink of some kind that I could burn into the video, and then redirect the shortlink at the appropriate time in the future. I'll look into this further; that's my issue and not an Analytics issue.
Thanks!
Pine
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Dan Andreescu dandreescu@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Pine,
We haven't decided on all of this yet, we haven't even started the design process. Mostly we're working on the data at the moment. Because the data pipeline is the least maintainable thing about metrics at WMF.
Our early thoughts were that the new UI would be so different from the old one that it deserves a new site. So we were guessing that leaving stats.wikimedia.org intact and putting banners on it about the new analytics.wikimedia.org domain would be the way to go. Then we can transition the experience slowly and give people a chance to compare with the old site and tell us where the gaps are, if any. Ideally while we're doing this, the old site would still be updating, but there are a number of problems that could get in the way of that.
As always, let us know your thoughts. Basically, my approach is that the new wikistats should make it easier to find the data available. There is a lot of exciting work referenced from wikistats, but I think we can separate that a little bit cleaner from the main work.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Analytics,
Will the new platform be located on stats.wikimedia.org as well?
Do you know what the sitemap for the replacements of Wikistats will be? I would like to be able to refer people to the Wikistats successor from the LearnWiki videos, rather than refer them to links that may be dead by the time that viewers two years from now see the videos.
Thanks!
Pine
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics