Hey all,
A perennial request from WMF engineers/product people, as well as third-party developers, is an idea of what browsers people are using so we know what we have to support on the frontend side of things.
With Legal/Analytics signoff and +2ing, I've built an exploratory tool at http://datavis.wmflabs.org/agents/ which allows people to look at the most prominently used user agents on our projects - editors, readers, mobile, desktop, whatever you want, we've got it!
(unless you want a pony or something. I can't help with that, I'm afraid.)
To answer the most obvious FAQ questions (read: the ones that have already come up ;p):
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
"Can I have it divided up by [country/operating system/what colour socks the users use/etc]?" An ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request; adding additional dimensions/granularity would require additional legal review and further runs.
Hi Oliver,
This is really neat, but the absolute user numbers are a bit confusing. Is there any chance it could also display pageviews as an approximate percentage? It's clear that, say, 2.1m Chrome 40 on Windows 7 is a lot more than 517 Chrome 40 on Linux, but because there's no total given it's hard to normalise this and understand what proportion either represents.
Secondly, am I right in assuming that the "pageviews" column is *sample* pageviews, so we have a "real" total of approximately 2.1 billion Chrome 40/Windows 7 pageviews?
Andrew.
On 6 March 2015 at 00:02, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey all,
A perennial request from WMF engineers/product people, as well as third-party developers, is an idea of what browsers people are using so we know what we have to support on the frontend side of things.
With Legal/Analytics signoff and +2ing, I've built an exploratory tool at http://datavis.wmflabs.org/agents/ which allows people to look at the most prominently used user agents on our projects - editors, readers, mobile, desktop, whatever you want, we've got it!
(unless you want a pony or something. I can't help with that, I'm afraid.)
To answer the most obvious FAQ questions (read: the ones that have already come up ;p):
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
"Can I have it divided up by [country/operating system/what colour socks the users use/etc]?" An ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request; adding additional dimensions/granularity would require additional legal review and further runs.
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Indeed and indeed! Working those into the first changeset :)
On 6 March 2015 at 07:52, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Hi Oliver,
This is really neat, but the absolute user numbers are a bit confusing. Is there any chance it could also display pageviews as an approximate percentage? It's clear that, say, 2.1m Chrome 40 on Windows 7 is a lot more than 517 Chrome 40 on Linux, but because there's no total given it's hard to normalise this and understand what proportion either represents.
Secondly, am I right in assuming that the "pageviews" column is *sample* pageviews, so we have a "real" total of approximately 2.1 billion Chrome 40/Windows 7 pageviews?
Andrew.
On 6 March 2015 at 00:02, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey all,
A perennial request from WMF engineers/product people, as well as third-party developers, is an idea of what browsers people are using so we know what we have to support on the frontend side of things.
With Legal/Analytics signoff and +2ing, I've built an exploratory tool at http://datavis.wmflabs.org/agents/ which allows people to look at the most prominently used user agents on our projects - editors, readers, mobile, desktop, whatever you want, we've got it!
(unless you want a pony or something. I can't help with that, I'm afraid.)
To answer the most obvious FAQ questions (read: the ones that have already come up ;p):
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
"Can I have it divided up by [country/operating system/what colour socks the users use/etc]?" An ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request; adding additional dimensions/granularity would require additional legal review and further runs.
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
--
- Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Awesome!
Thinking about this a little more, presumably the 500 cutoff means there's a long, long tail of smaller combinations - so could those percentages be of the absolute total, and could the absolute total + some idea of how much is "other" be listed in the outline?
Thanks,
Andrew.
On 6 March 2015 at 15:20, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Indeed and indeed! Working those into the first changeset :)
On 6 March 2015 at 07:52, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Hi Oliver,
This is really neat, but the absolute user numbers are a bit confusing. Is there any chance it could also display pageviews as an approximate percentage? It's clear that, say, 2.1m Chrome 40 on Windows 7 is a lot more than 517 Chrome 40 on Linux, but because there's no total given it's hard to normalise this and understand what proportion either represents.
Secondly, am I right in assuming that the "pageviews" column is *sample* pageviews, so we have a "real" total of approximately 2.1 billion Chrome 40/Windows 7 pageviews?
Andrew.
On 6 March 2015 at 00:02, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey all,
A perennial request from WMF engineers/product people, as well as third-party developers, is an idea of what browsers people are using so we know what we have to support on the frontend side of things.
With Legal/Analytics signoff and +2ing, I've built an exploratory tool at http://datavis.wmflabs.org/agents/ which allows people to look at the most prominently used user agents on our projects - editors, readers, mobile, desktop, whatever you want, we've got it!
(unless you want a pony or something. I can't help with that, I'm afraid.)
To answer the most obvious FAQ questions (read: the ones that have already come up ;p):
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
"Can I have it divided up by [country/operating system/what colour socks the users use/etc]?" An ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request; adding additional dimensions/granularity would require additional legal review and further runs.
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
--
- Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Very neat! This pretty much resolves https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78539 .
I join Andrew's request about percents in addition to (or instead of) absolute numbers, and I hope that it will be updated, say, once a month.
Thanks!
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2015-03-06 2:02 GMT+02:00 Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org:
Hey all,
A perennial request from WMF engineers/product people, as well as third-party developers, is an idea of what browsers people are using so we know what we have to support on the frontend side of things.
With Legal/Analytics signoff and +2ing, I've built an exploratory tool at http://datavis.wmflabs.org/agents/ which allows people to look at the most prominently used user agents on our projects - editors, readers, mobile, desktop, whatever you want, we've got it!
(unless you want a pony or something. I can't help with that, I'm afraid.)
To answer the most obvious FAQ questions (read: the ones that have already come up ;p):
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
"Can I have it divided up by [country/operating system/what colour socks the users use/etc]?" An ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request; adding additional dimensions/granularity would require additional legal review and further runs.
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
As said:
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
On 6 March 2015 at 13:40, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Very neat! This pretty much resolves https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78539 .
I join Andrew's request about percents in addition to (or instead of) absolute numbers, and I hope that it will be updated, say, once a month.
Thanks!
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2015-03-06 2:02 GMT+02:00 Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org:
Hey all,
A perennial request from WMF engineers/product people, as well as third-party developers, is an idea of what browsers people are using so we know what we have to support on the frontend side of things.
With Legal/Analytics signoff and +2ing, I've built an exploratory tool at http://datavis.wmflabs.org/agents/ which allows people to look at the most prominently used user agents on our projects - editors, readers, mobile, desktop, whatever you want, we've got it!
(unless you want a pony or something. I can't help with that, I'm afraid.)
To answer the most obvious FAQ questions (read: the ones that have already come up ;p):
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
"Can I have it divided up by [country/operating system/what colour socks the users use/etc]?" An ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request; adding additional dimensions/granularity would require additional legal review and further runs.
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Amir,
I think you need to re-read Oliver's e-mail as this data is not going to be updated regularly. He is explained why as part of this thread.
Thanks,
Nuria
On Mar 6, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Very neat! This pretty much resolves https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78539 .
I join Andrew's request about percents in addition to (or instead of) absolute numbers, and I hope that it will be updated, say, once a month.
Thanks!
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2015-03-06 2:02 GMT+02:00 Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org:
Hey all,
A perennial request from WMF engineers/product people, as well as third-party developers, is an idea of what browsers people are using so we know what we have to support on the frontend side of things.
With Legal/Analytics signoff and +2ing, I've built an exploratory tool at http://datavis.wmflabs.org/agents/ which allows people to look at the most prominently used user agents on our projects - editors, readers, mobile, desktop, whatever you want, we've got it!
(unless you want a pony or something. I can't help with that, I'm afraid.)
To answer the most obvious FAQ questions (read: the ones that have already come up ;p):
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
"Can I have it divided up by [country/operating system/what colour socks the users use/etc]?" An ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request; adding additional dimensions/granularity would require additional legal review and further runs.
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Wow, does Googlebot really represent over 1% of our desktop/reader traffic?
Rather interesting compared to that of e.g. WinXP/IE6, which is over 60x smaller at 0.016%.
But never mind IE6's percentage, that of Google would seem quite high.
— Timo
On 6 Mar 2015, at 01:02, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey all,
A perennial request from WMF engineers/product people, as well as third-party developers, is an idea of what browsers people are using so we know what we have to support on the frontend side of things.
With Legal/Analytics signoff and +2ing, I've built an exploratory tool at http://datavis.wmflabs.org/agents/ which allows people to look at the most prominently used user agents on our projects - editors, readers, mobile, desktop, whatever you want, we've got it!
(unless you want a pony or something. I can't help with that, I'm afraid.)
To answer the most obvious FAQ questions (read: the ones that have already come up ;p):
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
"Can I have it divided up by [country/operating system/what colour socks the users use/etc]?" An ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request; adding additional dimensions/granularity would require additional legal review and further runs.
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
1%...of the browsers that made it through the minimum request count filter ;). But crawler-traffic overall is actually ~50% of US desktop traffic, for scale. We get a lot of hits (not so much from Google, who crawl in a smart way, as Bing, who crawl in a very dumb way)
On 9 March 2015 at 22:54, Timo Tijhof ttijhof@wikimedia.org wrote:
Wow, does Googlebot really represent over 1% of our desktop/reader traffic?
Rather interesting compared to that of e.g. WinXP/IE6, which is over 60x smaller at 0.016%.
But never mind IE6's percentage, that of Google would seem quite high.
— Timo
On 6 Mar 2015, at 01:02, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey all,
A perennial request from WMF engineers/product people, as well as third-party developers, is an idea of what browsers people are using so we know what we have to support on the frontend side of things.
With Legal/Analytics signoff and +2ing, I've built an exploratory tool at http://datavis.wmflabs.org/agents/ which allows people to look at the most prominently used user agents on our projects - editors, readers, mobile, desktop, whatever you want, we've got it!
(unless you want a pony or something. I can't help with that, I'm afraid.)
To answer the most obvious FAQ questions (read: the ones that have already come up ;p):
"Will this be run regularly?" Not as of this moment. At least, not by me. This is an ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request.
"Who do I go to if I want that to change?" Analytics Engineering has this task on their backlog already.
"Can I have it divided up by [country/operating system/what colour socks the users use/etc]?" An ad-hoc report in response to an ad-hoc request; adding additional dimensions/granularity would require additional legal review and further runs.
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics