Hi everyone!
Has anyone tried to observer how different wikipedias use the templates: how often, what's the average depth of template calls, etc? ----- Yury Katkov, WikiVote
I think Brad and Tim (cc-ed) took a look at that while working on the Lua migration, though I'm not sure how cross-wiki their study was.
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.juriy@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone!
Has anyone tried to observer how different wikipedias use the templates: how often, what's the average depth of template calls, etc?
Yury Katkov, WikiVote
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I don't know if Tim did this, but I didn't.
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Dan Andreescu dandreescu@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think Brad and Tim (cc-ed) took a look at that while working on the Lua migration, though I'm not sure how cross-wiki their study was.
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.juriy@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone!
Has anyone tried to observer how different wikipedias use the templates: how often, what's the average depth of template calls, etc?
Yury Katkov, WikiVote
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-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation
My fault, I was just thinking about the performance comparisons that robla showcased at the last metrics meeting. I guess that was pretty specific and didn't include what Yury is looking for, right? On Jun 24, 2013 10:21 AM, "Brad Jorsch (Anomie)" bjorsch@wikimedia.org wrote:
I don't know if Tim did this, but I didn't.
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Dan Andreescu dandreescu@wikimedia.org wrote:
I think Brad and Tim (cc-ed) took a look at that while working on the
Lua migration, though I'm not sure how cross-wiki their study was.
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.juriy@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi everyone!
Has anyone tried to observer how different wikipedias use the templates: how often, what's the average depth of template calls, etc?
Yury Katkov, WikiVote
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-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Dan Andreescu dandreescu@wikimedia.org wrote:
My fault, I was just thinking about the performance comparisons that robla showcased at the last metrics meeting. I guess that was pretty specific and didn't include what Yury is looking for, right?
Yes. The performance comparisons were along the lines of "a page takes 30 seconds to parse with 1000 calls to the the ParserFunction-based version of the template, and only 3 seconds with the Scribunto-based version".
Yury Katkov, 23/06/2013 14:52:
Hi everyone!
Has anyone tried to observer how different wikipedias use the templates: how often, what's the average depth of template calls, etc?
What for? This is like asking "has anyone tried to observe how different Wikipedias are written"...
Nemo
It's more like asking "how do people use our software" for the sake of tuning the software and figuring out what people expect from it. ----- Yury Katkov, WikiVote
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
Yury Katkov, 23/06/2013 14:52:
Hi everyone!
Has anyone tried to observer how different wikipedias use the templates: how often, what's the average depth of template calls, etc?
What for? This is like asking "has anyone tried to observe how different Wikipedias are written"...
Nemo
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If you want to look at the current status of template usage, you could compare the templatelinks tables between wikis. Do you have a specific question in mind?
If you are hoping to look at historical trends, I'd be interested in helping you generate a dataset from the XML dumps. I've been working on a library[1] that provides a nice, iterable, pythonic strategy for processing dumps that would let you do some parsing to extract templates. You'd need to write an island grammar[2] to do that accurately. I've done that a few times to serve different needs, so I should be able to help with that too.
1. https://bitbucket.org/halfak/mediawiki-utilities 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_grammar
-Aaron
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.juriy@gmail.com wrote:
It's more like asking "how do people use our software" for the sake of tuning the software and figuring out what people expect from it.
Yury Katkov, WikiVote
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
Yury Katkov, 23/06/2013 14:52:
Hi everyone!
Has anyone tried to observer how different wikipedias use the templates: how often, what's the average depth of template calls, etc?
What for? This is like asking "has anyone tried to observe how different Wikipedias are written"...
Nemo
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