Team:
Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that should be present on X-analytics header for apps requests?
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics
I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was "uuid" but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the same. Need to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions.
Many thanks,
Nuria
Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Team:
Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that should be present on X-analytics header for apps requests?
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics
I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was "uuid" but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the same. Need to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions.
Many thanks,
Nuria
Ping ...
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Team:
Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that should be present on X-analytics header for apps requests?
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics
I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was "uuid" but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the same. Need to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions.
Many thanks,
Nuria
Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write this up.
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ping ...
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Team:
Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that should be present on X-analytics header for apps requests?
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics
I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was "uuid" but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the same. Need to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions.
Many thanks,
Nuria
It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews" is, with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and namespace to x_analytics.
On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write this up.
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ping ...
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Team:
Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that should be present on X-analytics header for apps requests?
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics
I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was "uuid" but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the same. Need to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions.
Many thanks,
Nuria
(Andrew Otto, question below)
Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview on each platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of Android and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We can then compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last discussion. If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview counts have to be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions), those would be good, too, if available.
Andrew, for the page_id and namespace https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92875 values, I infer it's running on the BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on desktop and mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview (what apps and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses yet. Is that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the deployment train?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews" is, with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and namespace to x_analytics.
On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write this
up.
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ping ...
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Team:
Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that should
be
present on X-analytics header for apps requests?
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics
I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was "uuid" but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the
same. Need
to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions.
Many thanks,
Nuria
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
The MobileFrontend changes have been merged, but the X-Analytics extension changes need to be reviewed, which I guess is waiting on Ori. Not sure who else should review those.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/
On Apr 21, 2015, at 09:12, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Andrew Otto, question below)
Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview on each platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of Android and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We can then compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last discussion. If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview counts have to be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions), those would be good, too, if available.
Andrew, for the page_id and namespace https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92875 values, I infer it's running on the BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on desktop and mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview (what apps and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses yet. Is that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the deployment train?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes@wikimedia.org mailto:okeyes@wikimedia.org> wrote: It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews" is, with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and namespace to x_analytics.
On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org mailto:abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write this up.
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org mailto:nuria@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Ping ...
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org mailto:abaso@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org mailto:nuria@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Team:
Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that should be present on X-analytics header for apps requests?
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics
I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was "uuid" but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the same. Need to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions.
Many thanks,
Nuria
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Ha, well if it isn't merged it really isn't going to be on the servers, right? ;)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Otto aotto@wikimedia.org wrote:
The MobileFrontend changes have been merged, but the X-Analytics extension changes need to be reviewed, which I guess is waiting on Ori. Not sure who else should review those.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/
On Apr 21, 2015, at 09:12, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Andrew Otto, question below)
Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview on each platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of Android and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We can then compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last discussion. If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview counts have to be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions), those would be good, too, if available.
Andrew, for the page_id and namespace https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T92875 values, I infer it's running on the BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on desktop and mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview (what apps and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses yet. Is that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the deployment train?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews" is, with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and namespace to x_analytics.
On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write this
up.
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Ping ...
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Team:
Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that should
be
present on X-analytics header for apps requests?
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics
I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was
"uuid"
but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the
same. Need
to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions.
Many thanks,
Nuria
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... boop.
For future iterations I'd rather we didn't have to do a compare-and-contrast and people just told Analytics when they'd done something that changed how pageviews appear, since what a pageview is conceptually is something I think everyone can agree on.
On 21 April 2015 at 09:43, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ha, well if it isn't merged it really isn't going to be on the servers, right? ;)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Otto aotto@wikimedia.org wrote:
The MobileFrontend changes have been merged, but the X-Analytics extension changes need to be reviewed, which I guess is waiting on Ori. Not sure who else should review those.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/
On Apr 21, 2015, at 09:12, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Andrew Otto, question below)
Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview on each platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of Android and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We can then compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last discussion. If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview counts have to be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions), those would be good, too, if available.
Andrew, for the page_id and namespace values, I infer it's running on the BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on desktop and mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview (what apps and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses yet. Is that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the deployment train?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews" is, with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and namespace to x_analytics.
On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write this up.
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ping ...
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Team: > > Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that should > be > present on X-analytics header for apps requests? > > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics > > I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was > "uuid" > but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the > same. Need > to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions. > > Many thanks, > > Nuria
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Most definitely, agreed, before better than after :)
Thanks! -Adam
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... boop.
For future iterations I'd rather we didn't have to do a compare-and-contrast and people just told Analytics when they'd done something that changed how pageviews appear, since what a pageview is conceptually is something I think everyone can agree on.
On 21 April 2015 at 09:43, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ha, well if it isn't merged it really isn't going to be on the servers, right? ;)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Otto aotto@wikimedia.org
wrote:
The MobileFrontend changes have been merged, but the X-Analytics
extension
changes need to be reviewed, which I guess is waiting on Ori. Not sure
who
else should review those.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/
On Apr 21, 2015, at 09:12, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Andrew Otto, question below)
Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview on
each
platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of
Android
and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We can
then
compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last
discussion.
If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview counts
have to
be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions), those
would be
good, too, if available.
Andrew, for the page_id and namespace values, I infer it's running on
the
BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on desktop
and
mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview (what
apps
and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses yet. Is that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the
deployment
train?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews" is, with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and namespace to x_analytics.
On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write
this
up.
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ping ...
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this. > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org > wrote: >> >> Team: >> >> Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that
should
>> be >> present on X-analytics header for apps requests? >> >> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics >> >> I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was >> "uuid" >> but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the >> same. Need >> to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Nuria > >
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Adam:
I think Oliver is OOTO, here is the pageview definition: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Most definitely, agreed, before better than after :)
Thanks! -Adam
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... boop.
For future iterations I'd rather we didn't have to do a compare-and-contrast and people just told Analytics when they'd done something that changed how pageviews appear, since what a pageview is conceptually is something I think everyone can agree on.
On 21 April 2015 at 09:43, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ha, well if it isn't merged it really isn't going to be on the servers, right? ;)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Otto aotto@wikimedia.org
wrote:
The MobileFrontend changes have been merged, but the X-Analytics
extension
changes need to be reviewed, which I guess is waiting on Ori. Not
sure who
else should review those.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/
On Apr 21, 2015, at 09:12, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Andrew Otto, question below)
Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview on
each
platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of
Android
and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We can
then
compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last
discussion.
If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview counts
have to
be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions), those
would be
good, too, if available.
Andrew, for the page_id and namespace values, I infer it's running on
the
BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on desktop
and
mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview (what
apps
and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses yet.
Is
that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the
deployment
train?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews" is, with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and namespace to x_analytics.
On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write
this
up.
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Ping ... > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org > wrote: >> >> Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this. >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org >> wrote: >>> >>> Team: >>> >>> Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that
should
>>> be >>> present on X-analytics header for apps requests? >>> >>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics >>> >>> I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was >>> "uuid" >>> but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are the >>> same. Need >>> to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Nuria >> >> >
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
I'm out of the office? ;)
On 21 April 2015 at 12:46, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Adam:
I think Oliver is OOTO, here is the pageview definition: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Most definitely, agreed, before better than after :)
Thanks! -Adam
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... boop.
For future iterations I'd rather we didn't have to do a compare-and-contrast and people just told Analytics when they'd done something that changed how pageviews appear, since what a pageview is conceptually is something I think everyone can agree on.
On 21 April 2015 at 09:43, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ha, well if it isn't merged it really isn't going to be on the servers, right? ;)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Otto aotto@wikimedia.org wrote:
The MobileFrontend changes have been merged, but the X-Analytics extension changes need to be reviewed, which I guess is waiting on Ori. Not sure who else should review those.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/
On Apr 21, 2015, at 09:12, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Andrew Otto, question below)
Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview on each platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of Android and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We can then compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last discussion. If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview counts have to be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions), those would be good, too, if available.
Andrew, for the page_id and namespace values, I infer it's running on the BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on desktop and mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview (what apps and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses yet. Is that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the deployment train?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews" is, with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and namespace to x_analytics.
On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote: > Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write > this > up. > > -Adam > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org > wrote: >> >> Ping ... >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org >> wrote: >>> >>> Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this. >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Team: >>>> >>>> Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that >>>> should >>>> be >>>> present on X-analytics header for apps requests? >>>> >>>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics >>>> >>>> I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app was >>>> "uuid" >>>> but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are >>>> the >>>> same. Need >>>> to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions. >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> >>>> Nuria >>> >>> >> >
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
(Bernd, question for you below)
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics#Keys has been uploaded
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/205980/ has been submitted - Analytics +1 is requested.
Bernd is putting the finishing touches on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/205976/ - Analytics +1 will be requested when it's ready.
As I understand there was discussion on IRC to express the need for support for the old (appInstallID parameter in the request URL) and the new (wmfuuid in the X-Analytics field) in the uniques / pageview counting stuff.
The latest format of the URL on iOS would like like so:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&no...
Bernd, would you please verify that the following is the latest URL format constituting a pageview on Android?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&pa...
If so, I believe that means the assumptions in https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... haven't changed for pageviews, although best if Analytics double checks.
Thanks! -Adam
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm out of the office? ;)
On 21 April 2015 at 12:46, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Adam:
I think Oliver is OOTO, here is the pageview definition: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Most definitely, agreed, before better than after :)
Thanks! -Adam
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-...
boop.
For future iterations I'd rather we didn't have to do a compare-and-contrast and people just told Analytics when they'd done something that changed how pageviews appear, since what a pageview is conceptually is something I think everyone can agree on.
On 21 April 2015 at 09:43, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ha, well if it isn't merged it really isn't going to be on the
servers,
right? ;)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Otto aotto@wikimedia.org wrote:
The MobileFrontend changes have been merged, but the X-Analytics extension changes need to be reviewed, which I guess is waiting on Ori. Not sure who else should review those.
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/
On Apr 21, 2015, at 09:12, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Andrew Otto, question below)
Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview on each platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of Android and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We can then compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last discussion. If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview counts have to be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions), those would be good, too, if available.
Andrew, for the page_id and namespace values, I infer it's running
on
the BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on
desktop
and mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview
(what
apps and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses
yet.
Is that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the deployment train?
-Adam
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes <
okeyes@wikimedia.org>
wrote: > > It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews"
is,
> with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and > namespace to x_analytics. > > On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote: > > Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to write > > this > > up. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz <nuria@wikimedia.org
> > wrote: > >> > >> Ping ... > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso <abaso@wikimedia.org
> >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this. > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz <
nuria@wikimedia.org>
> >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Team: > >>>> > >>>> Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that > >>>> should > >>>> be > >>>> present on X-analytics header for apps requests? > >>>> > >>>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics > >>>> > >>>> I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app
was
> >>>> "uuid" > >>>> but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are > >>>> the > >>>> same. Need > >>>> to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions. > >>>> > >>>> Many thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Nuria > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Research Analyst > Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Per Nuria's request, I made a task to track the work to update the uniques and sessions reports: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96926
Thanks everyone!
Dan
On 22 April 2015 at 14:57, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Bernd, question for you below)
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics#Keys has been uploaded
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/205980/ has been submitted - Analytics +1 is requested.
Bernd is putting the finishing touches on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/205976/ - Analytics +1 will be requested when it's ready.
As I understand there was discussion on IRC to express the need for support for the old (appInstallID parameter in the request URL) and the new (wmfuuid in the X-Analytics field) in the uniques / pageview counting stuff.
The latest format of the URL on iOS would like like so:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&no...
Bernd, would you please verify that the following is the latest URL format constituting a pageview on Android?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&pa...
If so, I believe that means the assumptions in https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... haven't changed for pageviews, although best if Analytics double checks.
Thanks! -Adam
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm out of the office? ;)
On 21 April 2015 at 12:46, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Adam:
I think Oliver is OOTO, here is the pageview definition: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Most definitely, agreed, before better than after :)
Thanks! -Adam
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-...
boop.
For future iterations I'd rather we didn't have to do a compare-and-contrast and people just told Analytics when they'd done something that changed how pageviews appear, since what a pageview is conceptually is something I think everyone can agree on.
On 21 April 2015 at 09:43, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ha, well if it isn't merged it really isn't going to be on the
servers,
right? ;)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Otto aotto@wikimedia.org wrote: > > The MobileFrontend changes have been merged, but the X-Analytics > extension > changes need to be reviewed, which I guess is waiting on Ori. Not > sure who > else should review those. > > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/ > > > > On Apr 21, 2015, at 09:12, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote: > > (Andrew Otto, question below) > > Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview
on
> each > platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of > Android > and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We
can
> then > compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last > discussion. > If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview counts > have to > be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions), those > would be > good, too, if available. > > Andrew, for the page_id and namespace values, I infer it's running
on
> the > BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on
desktop
> and > mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview
(what
> apps > and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses
yet.
> Is > that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the > deployment > train? > > -Adam > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes <
okeyes@wikimedia.org>
> wrote: >> >> It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews"
is,
>> with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and >> namespace to x_analytics. >> >> On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote: >> > Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to
write
>> > this >> > up. >> > >> > -Adam >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz <
nuria@wikimedia.org>
>> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Ping ... >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso <
abaso@wikimedia.org>
>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this. >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz <
nuria@wikimedia.org>
>> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Team: >> >>>> >> >>>> Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info that >> >>>> should >> >>>> be >> >>>> present on X-analytics header for apps requests? >> >>>> >> >>>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics >> >>>> >> >>>> I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app
was
>> >>>> "uuid" >> >>>> but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two are >> >>>> the >> >>>> same. Need >> >>>> to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions. >> >>>> >> >>>> Many thanks, >> >>>> >> >>>> Nuria >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Oliver Keyes >> Research Analyst >> Wikimedia Foundation > > >
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
I've amended the Android patch to include the changes we talked about. I think it's ready to go now.
Since you asked about Android requests:
Yes, the *first* request for a page has the same parameters you sent earlier (LeadSectionFetchTask): GET https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&p...
The *second* request for the remaining content looks like this (RestSectionsFetchTask): GET https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&p... (You can probably ignore this one.)
Then we have refreshing of *saved pages* (RefreshSavedPageTask): GET https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&p...
And finally also our *featured page* of the day request from our *widget* (should happen automatically 1-2 times a day; always the main page; WidgetProviderFeaturedPage): GET https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&p...
Future changes: Looking at the last one (for the widget) I think we might consider changing it so that it only requests the first section (sections=0), but the main page on most wikis only has one section anyways. Also in general, I think we should get rid of noheadings=true and change thumbsize to thumbwidth, like iOS has it. So I hope you don't use those for analysis. There will be a new link preview feature in upcoming sprints (not merged yet). The request code is in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202615/14/wikipedia/src/main/java/org/wik... .
Thanks, Bernd
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Per Nuria's request, I made a task to track the work to update the uniques and sessions reports: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96926
Thanks everyone!
Dan
On 22 April 2015 at 14:57, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Bernd, question for you below)
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics#Keys has been uploaded
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/205980/ has been submitted - Analytics +1 is requested.
Bernd is putting the finishing touches on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/205976/ - Analytics +1 will be requested when it's ready.
As I understand there was discussion on IRC to express the need for support for the old (appInstallID parameter in the request URL) and the new (wmfuuid in the X-Analytics field) in the uniques / pageview counting stuff.
The latest format of the URL on iOS would like like so:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&no...
Bernd, would you please verify that the following is the latest URL format constituting a pageview on Android?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=mobileview&format=json&pa...
If so, I believe that means the assumptions in https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-... haven't changed for pageviews, although best if Analytics double checks.
Thanks! -Adam
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm out of the office? ;)
On 21 April 2015 at 12:46, Nuria Ruiz nuria@wikimedia.org wrote:
Adam:
I think Oliver is OOTO, here is the pageview definition: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Most definitely, agreed, before better than after :)
Thanks! -Adam
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/blob/master/refinery-...
boop.
For future iterations I'd rather we didn't have to do a compare-and-contrast and people just told Analytics when they'd done something that changed how pageviews appear, since what a pageview is conceptually is something I think everyone can agree on.
On 21 April 2015 at 09:43, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote: > Ha, well if it isn't merged it really isn't going to be on the
servers,
> right? ;) > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Andrew Otto aotto@wikimedia.org > wrote: >> >> The MobileFrontend changes have been merged, but the X-Analytics >> extension >> changes need to be reviewed, which I guess is waiting on Ori. Not >> sure who >> else should review those. >> >> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202799/ >> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202800/ >> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/202801/ >> >> >> >> On Apr 21, 2015, at 09:12, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org wrote: >> >> (Andrew Otto, question below) >> >> Oliver, you're talking about defining what constitutes a pageview
on
>> each >> platform, right? Got links to the "definitions" files for each of >> Android >> and iOS for the current state of what constitutes a pageview? We
can
>> then >> compare and contrast to see everything is still cool since last >> discussion. >> If there are backward looking definitions (e.g., if pageview
counts
>> have to >> be computed piecewise to account for changes in definitions),
those
>> would be >> good, too, if available. >> >> Andrew, for the page_id and namespace values, I infer it's
running on
>> the >> BeforePageDisplay hook (regular pageviews are being tagged on
desktop
>> and >> mobile web), but it seems it's not yet in the action=mobileview
(what
>> apps >> and perhaps to a limited extent, some other consumers) responses
yet.
>> Is >> that probably just due to date of merge for the API part and the >> deployment >> train? >> >> -Adam >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Oliver Keyes <
okeyes@wikimedia.org>
>> wrote: >>> >>> It would also be good to find out what the latest on "pageviews"
is,
>>> with the iOS update and all. Ditto the provision of page_id and >>> namespace to x_analytics. >>> >>> On 20 April 2015 at 23:16, Adam Baso abaso@wikimedia.org
wrote:
>>> > Thanks for the ping. We have a working meeting Wednesday to
write
>>> > this >>> > up. >>> > >>> > -Adam >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Nuria Ruiz <
nuria@wikimedia.org>
>>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Ping ... >>> >> >>> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Adam Baso <
abaso@wikimedia.org>
>>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Sure thing. Dan and Bernd I'll sync up with you on this. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Nuria Ruiz <
nuria@wikimedia.org>
>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Team: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Would you be so kind as to document the mobile apps info
that
>>> >>>> should >>> >>>> be >>> >>>> present on X-analytics header for apps requests? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/X-Analytics >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I thought the uuid that identifies a unique user of the app
was
>>> >>>> "uuid" >>> >>>> but I also see a "wmfuuid" and I am not sure if these two
are
>>> >>>> the >>> >>>> same. Need >>> >>>> to clarify this to be able to calculate mobile sessions. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many thanks, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Nuria >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Oliver Keyes >>> Research Analyst >>> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> >> >
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Dan Garry Product Manager, Search and Discovery Wikimedia Foundation