Cross-posting to research and analytics, too!
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org Date: 6 May 2015 at 13:11 Subject: Traffic to the portal from Zero providers To: wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org
Hey all,
(Throwing this to the public list, because transparency is Good)
I recently did a presentation on a traffic analysis to the Wikipedia "home page" - www.wikipedia.org.[1]
One of the biggest visualisations, in impact terms, showed that a lot of portal traffic - far more, proportionately, than traffic to Wikipedia overall - is coming from India and Brazil.[2] One of the hypotheses was that this could be Zero traffic.
I've done a basic analysis of the traffic, looking specifically at the zero headers,[3] and this hypothesis turns out to be incorrect - almost no zero traffic is hitting the portal. The traffic we're seeing from Brazil and India is not zero-based.
This makes a lot of sense (the reason mobile traffic redirects to the enwiki home page from the portal is the Zero extension, so presumably this happens specifically to Zero traffic) but it does mean that our null hypothesis - that this traffic is down to ISP-level or device-level design choices and links - is more likely to be correct.
[1] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html [2] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html#/11 [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98076
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
Reading that excellent presentation, the thought that struck me was:
"If I wanted to subvert the assumption that Wikipedia == en.wiki, linking to http://www.wikipedia.org/ is what I'd do."
A smarter http://www.wikipedia.org/ might guess geo-location and thus local languages.
cheers stuart
-- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Cross-posting to research and analytics, too!
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org Date: 6 May 2015 at 13:11 Subject: Traffic to the portal from Zero providers To: wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org
Hey all,
(Throwing this to the public list, because transparency is Good)
I recently did a presentation on a traffic analysis to the Wikipedia "home page" - www.wikipedia.org.[1]
One of the biggest visualisations, in impact terms, showed that a lot of portal traffic - far more, proportionately, than traffic to Wikipedia overall - is coming from India and Brazil.[2] One of the hypotheses was that this could be Zero traffic.
I've done a basic analysis of the traffic, looking specifically at the zero headers,[3] and this hypothesis turns out to be incorrect - almost no zero traffic is hitting the portal. The traffic we're seeing from Brazil and India is not zero-based.
This makes a lot of sense (the reason mobile traffic redirects to the enwiki home page from the portal is the Zero extension, so presumably this happens specifically to Zero traffic) but it does mean that our null hypothesis - that this traffic is down to ISP-level or device-level design choices and links - is more likely to be correct.
[1] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html [2] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html#/11 [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98076
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
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Agreed! That's one of the changes I'd really like to push ahead with, although we're going to do some more in-depth data collection before any redesign :).
On 6 May 2015 at 20:27, Stuart A. Yeates syeates@gmail.com wrote:
Reading that excellent presentation, the thought that struck me was:
"If I wanted to subvert the assumption that Wikipedia == en.wiki, linking to http://www.wikipedia.org/ is what I'd do."
A smarter http://www.wikipedia.org/ might guess geo-location and thus local languages.
cheers stuart
-- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Cross-posting to research and analytics, too!
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org Date: 6 May 2015 at 13:11 Subject: Traffic to the portal from Zero providers To: wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org
Hey all,
(Throwing this to the public list, because transparency is Good)
I recently did a presentation on a traffic analysis to the Wikipedia "home page" - www.wikipedia.org.[1]
One of the biggest visualisations, in impact terms, showed that a lot of portal traffic - far more, proportionately, than traffic to Wikipedia overall - is coming from India and Brazil.[2] One of the hypotheses was that this could be Zero traffic.
I've done a basic analysis of the traffic, looking specifically at the zero headers,[3] and this hypothesis turns out to be incorrect - almost no zero traffic is hitting the portal. The traffic we're seeing from Brazil and India is not zero-based.
This makes a lot of sense (the reason mobile traffic redirects to the enwiki home page from the portal is the Zero extension, so presumably this happens specifically to Zero traffic) but it does mean that our null hypothesis - that this traffic is down to ISP-level or device-level design choices and links - is more likely to be correct.
[1] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html [2] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html#/11 [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98076
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
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Probably also an excellent time to consider whether we can do anything for those languages which don't have wikis yet.
For example, I'm in .nz, which has en, mi and nzs as official languages, but we're a long way from an nzs.wiki, given that ase.wiki is still in incubator. With the release of Unicode 8 with Sutton SignWriting in June, these may or may not kick off in a big way.
cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Agreed! That's one of the changes I'd really like to push ahead with, although we're going to do some more in-depth data collection before any redesign :).
On 6 May 2015 at 20:27, Stuart A. Yeates syeates@gmail.com wrote:
Reading that excellent presentation, the thought that struck me was:
"If I wanted to subvert the assumption that Wikipedia == en.wiki, linking to http://www.wikipedia.org/ is what I'd do."
A smarter http://www.wikipedia.org/ might guess geo-location and thus local languages.
cheers stuart
-- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Cross-posting to research and analytics, too!
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org Date: 6 May 2015 at 13:11 Subject: Traffic to the portal from Zero providers To: wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org
Hey all,
(Throwing this to the public list, because transparency is Good)
I recently did a presentation on a traffic analysis to the Wikipedia "home page" - www.wikipedia.org.[1]
One of the biggest visualisations, in impact terms, showed that a lot of portal traffic - far more, proportionately, than traffic to Wikipedia overall - is coming from India and Brazil.[2] One of the hypotheses was that this could be Zero traffic.
I've done a basic analysis of the traffic, looking specifically at the zero headers,[3] and this hypothesis turns out to be incorrect - almost no zero traffic is hitting the portal. The traffic we're seeing from Brazil and India is not zero-based.
This makes a lot of sense (the reason mobile traffic redirects to the enwiki home page from the portal is the Zero extension, so presumably this happens specifically to Zero traffic) but it does mean that our null hypothesis - that this traffic is down to ISP-level or device-level design choices and links - is more likely to be correct.
[1] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html [2] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html#/11 [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98076
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
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One thing we could also do is check the accept_language header and prioritise around that; that way we'd be prioritising specifically "the language the user's browser thinks they want".
On 6 May 2015 at 21:28, Stuart A. Yeates syeates@gmail.com wrote:
Probably also an excellent time to consider whether we can do anything for those languages which don't have wikis yet.
For example, I'm in .nz, which has en, mi and nzs as official languages, but we're a long way from an nzs.wiki, given that ase.wiki is still in incubator. With the release of Unicode 8 with Sutton SignWriting in June, these may or may not kick off in a big way.
cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Agreed! That's one of the changes I'd really like to push ahead with, although we're going to do some more in-depth data collection before any redesign :).
On 6 May 2015 at 20:27, Stuart A. Yeates syeates@gmail.com wrote:
Reading that excellent presentation, the thought that struck me was:
"If I wanted to subvert the assumption that Wikipedia == en.wiki, linking to http://www.wikipedia.org/ is what I'd do."
A smarter http://www.wikipedia.org/ might guess geo-location and thus local languages.
cheers stuart
-- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
Cross-posting to research and analytics, too!
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org Date: 6 May 2015 at 13:11 Subject: Traffic to the portal from Zero providers To: wikimedia-search@lists.wikimedia.org
Hey all,
(Throwing this to the public list, because transparency is Good)
I recently did a presentation on a traffic analysis to the Wikipedia "home page" - www.wikipedia.org.[1]
One of the biggest visualisations, in impact terms, showed that a lot of portal traffic - far more, proportionately, than traffic to Wikipedia overall - is coming from India and Brazil.[2] One of the hypotheses was that this could be Zero traffic.
I've done a basic analysis of the traffic, looking specifically at the zero headers,[3] and this hypothesis turns out to be incorrect - almost no zero traffic is hitting the portal. The traffic we're seeing from Brazil and India is not zero-based.
This makes a lot of sense (the reason mobile traffic redirects to the enwiki home page from the portal is the Zero extension, so presumably this happens specifically to Zero traffic) but it does mean that our null hypothesis - that this traffic is down to ISP-level or device-level design choices and links - is more likely to be correct.
[1] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html [2] http://ironholds.org/misc/homepage_presentation.html#/11 [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98076
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
-- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation
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