Jon, I requested this data for our forward fiscal year planning and I'm happy to talk to you about why. Just grab me in the office.
--tomasz --tomasz
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Jon Robson jrobson@wikimedia.org wrote:
Great work guys! Some comments though - that are aimed mainly at Tomasz, Maryana and the analytics team:
This concern might be premature (I must confess I'm not sure what the current road map looks like and what's coming next as I'm out of the analytics loop right now) but I query the usefulness of this data (for _me_ at least). Since the story doesn't say who this output is for and what problem it is is solving this might meet Maryana or Tomasz's goals but not mine. " so that I can get an idea of current types of devices being used to acces the mobile site" - (yes but why do you want to know that?)
The data format is very good in that I could easily whip up a web page to analyse it although I was left a bit confused as the fake data in the story card looks different to the output.
That said, I looked through a few data sets and couldn't find usage statistics for Kindle. Also what is the difference between BlackBerry and BlackBerry OS and Bada / Bada OS? I'm also assuming this should be a handheld ? (handheld RIM Tablet OS 807)
This is great in terms of allowing me to get vague ideas of our audience - which use Blackberry and which use Android but from my perspective it is not useful unless coupled with the browser they are using. For example which of our users on android are using Opera Mini, which of our users are using Opera Mobile?
This is why I don't trust this sort of data. It makes assumptions about how I consume the data and I worry that by grouping data in this way you lose a lot of the meaning of it.
Is it possible in future/now to access these numbers but instead of grouping showing the exact user agent? (I know this would be a longer list with lots of odd user agents - but for the problems I am trying to solve (getting ideas of importance of bugs) this would be much more useful.