Hello:
Please take a look at the new browser report with more detailed desktop
site data (all wikimedia projects agreggated):
https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#desktop-site-by-browser
Some highlights:
* Data is very stable over the last year
* Chrome in the lead with 45% of traffic, closely followed by IE (18%) and
FF (13%)
* The bulk of IE traffic is IE11 and IE7
* Edge shows up with 4% slowly catching up to Safari (5%)
* This data is still subject to fluctuations due to bot traffic not
identified as such. We will be working on this next year.
Thanks,
Nuria
>I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
That had no effect on pageviews. I think you are probably mixing two
different projects.
As I mentioned pageview counting has not changed for more than 2 years.
Thanks,
Nuria
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:43 AM, יגאל חיטרון <khitron(a)post.bgu.ac.il> wrote:
> Hi. I do not remember when did this happen - this april or two years ago.
> I'm talking about research "Unique devices".
> Igal
>
>
> 2017-07-17 19:37 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz <nuria(a)wikimedia.org>:
>
> > > do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way for
> > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile web
> > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> >
> > mmmm... not sure what you are referring to, can you be more specific? We
> > have not changed the way we measure pageviews for 2 years
> >
> > There are improvements/fixes continously done to the system and those get
> > documented here:
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view#Change_log
> >
> >
> > FYI, we have opened a ticket for this issue:
> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170845
> >
> > Without looking at it in detail there are many possible causes: removal
> of
> > "bad" pageviews (like requests for banners) or drop of traffic due to
> > having less bots.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון <khitron(a)gmail.com>:
> > > > Hello, Strainu.
> > > > 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll see,
> > as I
> > > > expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized appears
> in
> > > > "mobile-web" mostly.
> > > > 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the
> way
> > > for
> > > > pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile
> web
> > > > views. This can be the cause.
> > > > Igal (User IKhitron)
> > >
> > > Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
> > > announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
> > >
> > > Strainu
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu" <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a
> significant
> > > >> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April this
> > > >> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to justify
> > > >> this drop?
> > > >>
> > > >> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
> > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Pagina_principal%C4%83
> > > >>
> > > >> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
> > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Kezd%C5%91lap
> > > >>
> > > >> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
> > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
> > > >>
> > > >> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
> > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
> > > >>
> > > >> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
> > > >> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
> > > >> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Main_Page
> > > >> (slightly different pattern)
> > > >>
> > > >> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance uk.wiki:
> > > >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.
> > > wikipedia.org&platform=all-
> > > >> access&agent=user&start=2016-01&end=2017-06&pages=%D0%93%
> > > >> D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%
> > > >> 80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Strainu
> > > >>
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2017-07-15 14:34 GMT+03:00 יגאל חיטרון <khitron(a)gmail.com>:
> Hello, Strainu.
> 1. Try in place of "all-access" use different platforms. You'll see, as I
> expected reading your letter, that the effect you recognized appears in
> "mobile-web" mostly.
> 2. I do not remember the exact date, but a couple of months ago the way for
> pageviews counting was changed, using cookies, affecting the mobile web
> views. This can be the cause.
> Igal (User IKhitron)
Thank you Igal, that must be the reason, I'll look for the change
announcement just to understand what it means exactly.
Strainu
>
> On Jul 15, 2017 13:47, "Strainu" <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Starting from an unrelated discussion on meta, I noticed a significant
>> drop in main page views for several wikis starting from April this
>> year. Is there anything we (or Google) did at that time to justify
>> this drop?
>>
>> ro.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=ro.
>> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
>> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Pagina_principal%C4%83
>>
>> hu.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=hu.
>> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
>> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Kezd%C5%91lap
>>
>> fr.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=fr.
>> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
>> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal
>>
>> de.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=de.
>> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
>> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Wikipedia:Hauptseite
>>
>> en.wiki: http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.
>> wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2016-
>> 01&end=2017-06&pages=Main_Page
>> (slightly different pattern)
>>
>> The same cannot be said for other projects, for instance uk.wiki:
>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=uk.wikipedia.org&platform=all-
>> access&agent=user&start=2016-01&end=2017-06&pages=%D0%93%
>> D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%
>> 80%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Strainu
>>
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Today we announce a new snapshot (named *2017-06*) of the mediawiki history
data [1]. It includes these awesome new fields:
*event_user_revision_count*: 'Cumulative revision count per user for the
current event_user_id (only available in revision-create events so far)'
*page_revision_count*: 'In revision/page events: Cumulative revision count
per page for the current page_id (only available in revision-create events
so far)'
The *event_user_revision_count* field is useful as a close estimate to
user_editcount, but it does not include Flow talk page edits.
We've also added event_user_seconds_to_previous_revision and
page_seconds_to_previous_revision, but those are not being computed right
now.
The mediawiki_history dataset is updated every month, but we thought we'd
let you know about this one since it has new goodies. It's all thanks to
Joseph who did everything but announce this wonderful work and then had to
rush away to welcome his daughter into the world. Hi Joseph! Stop reading
work email! :D
[1]
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data_Lake/Edits/Mediawiki_his…
Hi everyone!
Wikimedia is releasing a new service today: EventStreams
<https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/EventStreams>. This service allows us
to publish arbitrary streams of JSON event data to the public. Initially,
the only stream available will be good ol’ RecentChanges
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RCFeed>. This event stream overlaps
functionality already provided by irc.wikimedia.org and RCStream
<https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/RCStream>. However, this new service
has advantages over these (now deprecated) services.
1.
We can expose more than just RecentChanges.
2.
Events are delivered over streaming HTTP (chunked transfer) instead of
IRC or socket.io. This requires less client side code and fewer special
routing cases on the server side.
3.
Streams can be resumed from the past. By using EventSource, a
disconnected client will automatically resume the stream from where it left
off, as long as it resumes within one week. In the future, we would like
to allow users to specify historical timestamps from which they would like
to begin consuming, if this proves safe and tractable.
I did say deprecated! Okay okay, we may never be able to fully deprecate
irc.wikimedia.org. It’s used by too many (probably sentient by now) bots
out there. We do plan to obsolete RCStream, and to turn it off in a
reasonable amount of time. The deadline iiiiiis July 7th, 2017. All
services that rely on RCStream should migrate to the HTTP based
EventStreams service by this date. We are committed to assisting you in
this transition, so let us know how we can help.
Unfortunately, unlike RCStream, EventStreams does not have server side
event filtering (e.g. by wiki) quite yet. How and if this should be done
is still under discussion <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152731>.
The RecentChanges data you are used to remains the same, and is available
at https://stream.wikimedia.org/v2/stream/recentchange. However, we may
have something different for you, if you find it useful. We have been
internally producing new Mediawiki specific events
<https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-event-schemas/tree/master/jsonschema…>
for a while now, and could expose these via EventStreams as well.
Take a look at these events, and tell us what you think. Would you find
them useful? How would you like to subscribe to them? Individually as
separate streams, or would you like to be able to compose multiple event
types into a single stream via an API? These things are all possible.
I asked for a lot of feedback in the above paragraphs. Let’s try and
centralize this discussion over on the mediawiki.org EventStreams talk page
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:EventStreams>. In summary, the
questions are:
-
What RCStream clients do you maintain, and how can we help you migrate
to EventStreams? <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tkjkee2j684hkwc9>
-
Is server side filtering, by wiki or arbitrary event field, useful to
you? <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tkjkabtyakpm967t>
-
Would you like to consume streams other than RecentChanges?
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tkjk4ezxb4u01a61> (Currently
available events are described here
<https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-event-schemas/tree/master/jsonschema…>
.)
Thanks!
- Andrew Otto
Hello!
This is an FYI that ModBar extension has been undeployed and, as such, its
tables will be removed from all wikis. See
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153033
It looks like this extension sprang some interest in the past [1] and there
were some research projects about it. Please let us know (before August
7th) whether we should keep the tables for any reason.
Thanks,
Nuria
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:MoodBar/First_month_of_activity